Bounty Hunter Archive

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Tapa wrote:

As a master healer with no defender, I always rely on 2 things:

Being able to outheal my opponites damage (which from a master rifleman can be quite high)

Applying Sap and waiting for his action to go down (which from a master rifleman can be quite fast)

Now, lets look at combat log

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1200 damage (down to 1800 health now)

Tapa uses force infusion, heals 250 damage (2050 health now)

2 seconds go by

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1100 damage (down to 950)

Tapa heals for 1500 (2450 now)

2 seconds go by

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1200 damage (1250 now)

2 seconds go by

Tapa heals for 250 (1500 now)

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1100 (400 health now)

2 seconds go by

Tapa heals for 1500 (1900 now)

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1200 (700 now)

2 seconds go by

Evil Bounty Hunter hits Tapa for 1100

Tapa Gwaca has been incapacitated by Evil Bounty Hunter

5 seconds go by

You have been slain by Evil Bounty Hunter

You have lost 400,000 Jedi exp

Evil Bounty Hunter tells you: OMG I FRICKEN PWN YOU JEDI N00B AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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RedVenom400 wrote:lol well if they spend 13 skill boxes instead of 4 they would deserve better healing , and guess what SURPRISE !doctor healing also has a 6 second cool down muahhahaha stop whining noob .

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Before you call others noob maybe you should progress from Rank1 Noob yourself...

Doc has 6 second cooldown on each heal they have, but they have 2 heals on seperate timers, which means they can cycle 1 heal every 3 seconds while a Jedi can only use 1 heal every 6 seconds. That equates to a healing DPS of 250 for a Jedi with 4000 healer. A doctor will easily surpass that healing DPS as will any lvl80 combat template surpass that healing DPS with damage.

Those are the facts, you have been measured and found wanting...

Message Edited by BDragon on 06-27-2005 10:22 PM

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Tapa wrote:

They spend 78 SP's on master doctor

We spend 90 on master healer

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RedVenom400 wrote:

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Tapa wrote:

They spend 78 SP's on master doctor

We spend 90 on master healer

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who said anything about master ?

you know you only want 4-0-0-0 healer ...

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No, I'm master healer, thank you very much.

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BDragon wrote:

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RedVenom400 wrote:lol well if they spend 13 skill boxes instead of 4 they would deserve better healing , and guess what SURPRISE !doctor healing also has a 6 second cool down muahhahaha stop whining noob .

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Before you call others noob maybe you should progress from Rank1 Noob yourself...

Doc has 6 second cooldown on each heal they have, but they have 2 heals on seperate timers, which means they can cycle 1 heal every 3 seconds while a Jedi can only use 1 heal every 6 seconds. That equates to a healing DPS of 250 for a Jedi with 4000 healer. A doctor will easily surpass that healing DPS as will any lvl80 combat template surpass that healing DPS with damage.

Those are the facts, you have been measured and found wanting...

Message Edited by BDragon on 06-27-2005 10:22 PM

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ok if you only get 4-0-0-0 doctor , you will only be healing for 1100 (give or take) on imprived bacta shot and about 500 or less on bacta jab .bactashot and bacta infusion share the same timer , and healing trough doctor takes mad amounts of mind cost and action , also , if you happen to be knock down the moment you chose bacta shot , guess what? we get the message "you cant healed while knocked down " and we have to wait 6 seconds to get up , in addition , we cant heal while knocked down , jedi can.. that by itself its godly on its own

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

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Giles025 wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

no, it was the bounty hunters who complained that they sometimes lost to a padawan because he could heal. Now that heals have a 6 second cooldown, you will start to see many jedi getting doc 4/x/x/x instead of healer 4/x/x/x.

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I'm a bit confused... shouldn't a class that is entirely focused on healing (doc)do better than a class that's more focused on combat (Jedi)?

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they should. IF their master doc. But when they can just dabble in 4/x/x/x in either doc or cm, and heal for the exact same as we could just getting 4/x/x/x in force healing, and then having US be nerfed, was a bit strange.

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Odd, I dont think my MCM can heal while knocked down. Can Jedi do that? If they could do that, then they would be better healers then a CM already. Oh...wait a second, nevermind.

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

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Giles025 wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

no, it was the bounty hunters who complained that they sometimes lost to a padawan because he could heal. Now that heals have a 6 second cooldown, you will start to see many jedi getting doc 4/x/x/x instead of healer 4/x/x/x.

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I'm a bit confused... shouldn't a class that is entirely focused on healing (doc)heal better than a class that's more focused on combat (Jedi)?

Also, in the movies I didn't see Obi-Wan or Yoda putting Anakin's arm back on using the force.

Message Edited by Giles025 on 06-25-2005 06:21 PM

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ok, if you want to go w/ the movies, did you see anyone survive from a saber hit? did you actually SEE BH's hunting jedi? Did you see any actual doctors or combat medics for that matter?

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Ehm... 1 liner for you (you bit yourself with this one):

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOOOOOO MANY JEDI AROUND SHOWING OFF????

(i haven't )

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Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

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Giles025 wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

no, it was the bounty hunters who complained that they sometimes lost to a padawan because he could heal. Now that heals have a 6 second cooldown, you will start to see many jedi getting doc 4/x/x/x instead of healer 4/x/x/x.

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I'm a bit confused... shouldn't a class that is entirely focused on healing (doc)heal better than a class that's more focused on combat (Jedi)?

Also, in the movies I didn't see Obi-Wan or Yoda putting Anakin's arm back on using the force.

Message Edited by Giles025 on 06-25-2005 06:21 PM

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ok, if you want to go w/ the movies, did you see anyone survive from a saber hit? did you actually SEE BH's hunting jedi? Did you see any actual doctors or combat medics for that matter?

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Ehm... 1 liner for you (you bit yourself with this one):

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOOOOOO MANY JEDI AROUND SHOWING OFF????

(i haven't )

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Ep. 2

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Tapa wrote:

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Dariane_Kamutsovy wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

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Giles025 wrote:

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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY wrote:

no, it was the bounty hunters who complained that they sometimes lost to a padawan because he could heal. Now that heals have a 6 second cooldown, you will start to see many jedi getting doc 4/x/x/x instead of healer 4/x/x/x.

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I'm a bit confused... shouldn't a class that is entirely focused on healing (doc)heal better than a class that's more focused on combat (Jedi)?

Also, in the movies I didn't see Obi-Wan or Yoda putting Anakin's arm back on using the force.

Message Edited by Giles025 on 06-25-2005 06:21 PM

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ok, if you want to go w/ the movies, did you see anyone survive from a saber hit? did you actually SEE BH's hunting jedi? Did you see any actual doctors or combat medics for that matter?

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Ehm... 1 liner for you (you bit yourself with this one):

HAVE YOU EVER SEEN SOOOOOO MANY JEDI AROUND SHOWING OFF????

(i haven't )

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Ep. 2

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Blah! Those few jedi that were in the middle? Could be coutned on 2 hands

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RedVenom400 wrote:

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BDragon wrote:

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RedVenom400 wrote:lol well if they spend 13 skill boxes instead of 4 they would deserve better healing , and guess what SURPRISE !doctor healing also has a 6 second cool down muahhahaha stop whining noob .

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Before you call others noob maybe you should progress from Rank1 Noob yourself...

Doc has 6 second cooldown on each heal they have, but they have 2 heals on seperate timers, which means they can cycle 1 heal every 3 seconds while a Jedi can only use 1 heal every 6 seconds. That equates to a healing DPS of 250 for a Jedi with 4000 healer. A doctor will easily surpass that healing DPS as will any lvl80 combat template surpass that healing DPS with damage.

Those are the facts, you have been measured and found wanting...

Message Edited by BDragon on 06-27-2005 10:22 PM

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ok if you only get 4-0-0-0 doctor , you will only be healing for 1100 (give or take) on imprived bacta shot and about 500 or less on bacta jab .bacta shot and bacta infusion share the same timer , and healing trough doctor takes mad amounts of mind cost and action , also , if you happen to be knock down the moment you chose bacta shot , guess what? we get the message "you cant healed while knocked down " and we have to wait 6 seconds to get up , in addition , we cant heal while knocked down , jedi can.. that by itself its godly on its own

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Its 1.5k and 700 for that line of doc (i have it on another toon). So that is a pure damage DPS healing of 366. Anyhow you look at it 366 > 250. Also remember that Jedi healign will now be costing mind just like doc and docs have had their mind cost lowered. Jedi heals are costing 12% mind on TC right now, so the extra cost that doc heals had is no longer the case.

Simple fact that as of tomorrow the onyl advantage Jedi healing has over doc is Jedi can heal whiel KD. Doc will now be healing faster than Jedi if they both have 4000. Also bare in mind that ALL docs can have 7000 armour rating (52.5% protection) and have melee and rnaged defence which cuts damage range of an attacking weapon. Those things are not grnated to a Jedi who takes 4000 healer.

Do your research before you call people noobs, the picture is far bigger than obviously you realised...

So let me get this straight.....jedi feel that healing should not change because it's all that keeps low level jedi alive against multiple bounty hunters? Low level against multiple? Why should a low level jedi survive against multiple bounty hunters? Where does that put high level jedi at? Don't high level jedi complain about never getting hunted? They want more damage AND keep the healing the same? Really? I know jedi are unrealistic but even they can see the trade off is necessary, right? I've seen jedi fight each other for an hour straight with no winner just hit hit hit heal heal hit hit heal over and over until they finally gave up. Is that how it should be? Honestly...

I'm thinking that jedi will be even stronger really, but you might actually have to learn how to fight.

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Nathanielstarr wrote:

So let me get this straight.....jedi feel that healing should not change because it's all that keeps low level jedi alive against multiple bounty hunters? Low level against multiple? Why should a low level jedi survive against multiple bounty hunters? Where does that put high level jedi at? Don't high level jedi complain about never getting hunted? They want more damage AND keep the healing the same? Really? I know jedi are unrealistic but even they can see the trade off is necessary, right? I've seen jedi fight each other for an hour straight with no winner just hit hit hit heal heal hit hit heal over and over until they finally gave up. Is that how it should be? Honestly...

I'm thinking that jedi will be even stronger really, but you might actually have to learn how to fight.

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