Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Want to get rid of the hate?
Tapa wrote:
Let BHers hunt NPC Jedi missions, and let NPC bounty hunters hunt Jedi PCs.
If a Jedi gets enough visibility to be on the terminals, then a BH will inevitably show up. The time-frame should be random like the old man and sith visits, but unlike the sith attacks it should be a locked battle, like a BH with an NPC mark.
BHers now have elite marks which get very good loot, if they don't already, these elite marks should be Jedi, fully wielding a lightsaber and force powers.
For those who want to PVP, make it so only PC Jedi who are special forces are placed on the terminals, and only BHers who are special forces can take their mission.
The Jedi should still lose exp for dying to a BH, whether it is a NPC or PC. The BH should get a bonus credit of a random skill value based on the difficulty of the mark. There should be a chance that they get a 90K Jedi who is easily dispatched, or a 226K Jedi who is difficult to kill. This would keep the BHers monitary value of killing a mark, plus they will drop loot. No PC Jedi are harmed by this, the BH is guarenteed that their mark is not in a house, afk, and will not run. With the new AI coming out it should be more exciting and difficult.
All the whining I read on these boards is that their marks are AFK, in a house, or run. Giving NPC Jedi to hunt will eleviate this, and the Jedi population will still be in check by NPC's, which cannot harrass, mock, or cry nerfon a Jedi.
Besides, you guys only hunt Jedi for the fun of tracking and the money awarded, right?All this I hear about forcing exp loss on another player and making Jedi quit, its not your true intentions
Wow, awesome idea. Would be alot of fun for everyone.
HeadRoll wrote:
Dlek_Krego wrote:
Or better yet, with the ability to cause a lose to another player removed, alot of the "griefer" type BH's would leave the BH profession, and move on to other profession, and reignite the GCW to get their PvP fills... the GCW would actually exist again, and not the Jedi Vs BH war that is the present GCW now.
The GCW at its peak was fun times. That is until the first full temp Jedi started showing up and destroyed 15 of the elite original combat professions by themselves. Soon after, envious to the onslaught and the mentality of we can't beat them, join them.. the vast majority of people partaking in the GCW decided they must also do the holo grind...
The end result is what you see today.
gcw ended when the cm were throwing areas poisons from 100m. way before jedi were even an issue. but please, continue to spout your clueless drivel....
i was here for the very first round of nerfs (bh eyeshot) back in 03. that's where it all started.
BudBandit wrote:
SF wont work itll become a gank squad of one or the other. Sf jedi show up on the terms and all of the sudden the Sf BHunter travels to Theed. His mark is there and right before the attack BAM!!! 12 SF Jedi pop out and give him some prison love. Wont work
Tapa wrote:
Let BHers hunt NPC Jedi missions, and let NPC bounty hunters hunt Jedi PCs.
If a Jedi gets enough visibility to be on the terminals, then a BH will inevitably show up. The time-frame should be random like the old man and sith visits, but unlike the sith attacks it should be a locked battle, like a BH with an NPC mark.
BHers now have elite marks which get very good loot, if they don't already, these elite marks should be Jedi, fully wielding a lightsaber and force powers.
For those who want to PVP, make it so only PC Jedi who are special forces are placed on the terminals, and only BHers who are special forces can take their mission.
The Jedi should still lose exp for dying to a BH, whether it is a NPC or PC. The BH should get a bonus credit of a random skill value based on the difficulty of the mark. There should be a chance that they get a 90K Jedi who is easily dispatched, or a 226K Jedi who is difficult to kill. This would keep the BHers monitary value of killing a mark, plus they will drop loot. No PC Jedi are harmed by this, the BH is guarenteed that their mark is not in a house, afk, and will not run. With the new AI coming out it should be more exciting and difficult.
All the whining I read on these boards is that their marks are AFK, in a house, or run. Giving NPC Jedi to hunt will eleviate this, and the Jedi population will still be in check by NPC's, which cannot harrass, mock, or cry nerfon a Jedi.
Besides, you guys only hunt Jedi for the fun of tracking and the money awarded, right?All this I hear about forcing exp loss on another player and making Jedi quit, its not your true intentions
MrSemi wrote:
BudBandit wrote:
SF wont work itll become a gank squad of one or the other. Sf jedi show up on the terms and all of the sudden the Sf BHunter travels to Theed. His mark is there and right before the attack BAM!!! 12 SF Jedi pop out and give him some prison love. Wont work
I dunno about prison love but I see your point. IREALLY like the idea of making bounty hunters SF to attack SF but it'd require some tweaks.
I have a feeling Many Many BH would hate the idea of going overt.
Good post.
Keppisuutari wrote:
MrSemi wrote:
BudBandit wrote:
SF wont work itll become a gank squad of one or the other. Sf jedi show up on the terms and all of the sudden the Sf BHunter travels to Theed. His mark is there and right before the attack BAM!!! 12 SF Jedi pop out and give him some prison love. Wont work
I dunno about prison love but I see your point. IREALLY like the idea of making bounty hunters SF to attack SF but it'd require some tweaks.
I have a feeling Many Many BH would hate the idea of going overt.
Good post.
Why would they hate it? Gathering from posts on these boards, BH's love to pvp and want nothing more than to pvp. This would give them that. Wouldnt be just easy kill low paddies though.
Because many BH don't get overt at all. They like the idea of playing the role of a bounty hunter, not a soldier. I
'd love it personally, and I think it'd be great for the GCW. *Edit* And FYI, no I don't get overt to kill bh now. I'd likely never make it to my mark and half of my my marks are in bases or roaming with multiple overt friends.
Message Edited by MrSemi on 10-12-2005 12:51 AM
DanielDirem wrote:
Its an original idea, I will give you that. As for a good idea, I don't think so.
Maybe I'm the only Veteran Player who was here before Jedi and still continues to play after them but there is no way a NPC Jedi Mark will replace the adrenaline produced when facing another player. The NPC Jedi would be to easy for a Semi-Decent BH and the NPC BH would be way to easy for a Jedi, there is no strategy involved and thus, no fun.
The only thing that would happen if this every got implemented in the game would be that Jedi would flourish even more then they are now and Bounty Hunters would dwindle in numbers.
Also, like Nathaniel said and it has happened many times, we complain about alot of things and then they are fixed... and a few weeks later we look back and wish they were the same. Bounty Hunters would be beating their heads against their keyboards and Jedi would find themselves doing the same... why? Boredom.
Message Edited by DanielDirem on 10-11-2005 01:23 PM
Or better yet, with the ability to cause a lose to another player removed, alot of the "griefer" type BH's would leave the BH profession, and move on to other profession, and reignite the GCW to get their PvP fills... the GCW would actually exist again, and not the Jedi Vs BH war thatis the present GCWnow.
Message Edited by Dlek_Krego on 10-12-2005 12:50 AM
I couldn't of put it better myself.
Necriscoth wrote:
To the Jedi on this forum whinning about BHs only playing to grief YOU. The majority of BHs do not hunt Jedi for the sole purpose of "griefing" another player. They are playing a game in which their chosen profession in said game allows them to TRACK, HUNT, PLOT, SCHEME, THINK, and ultimately OUTWIT their prey. And we all know that the ultimate prey to hunt is another human. Computer programs are predictable, humans are not. THAT is the reason why the majority of BHs play. If playing your profession is causing so much frustration to the point that you have to render yourself to being a seen as a child with a temper tantrum, then play another profession. You got one of those on the same server. You can still hunt and have fun with your friends. If you want to play some "uber" Jedi character without the fear of being hunted, griefed, losing xp, or what have you, go play one of Lucasart's other fine games in which you are nothing but a Jedi. I recommend JKA, Jedi Outcast, KOTOR and KOTOR II. And hell, if want the best of both worlds you can play (if you still have or have ever had it, and your computer can run it ), Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight. If your anser is you don't want to play those and keep playing Jedi in SWG...then stop your whining about being griefed when infact you just got outsmarted and defeated. At this rate (with the nerf to xp lossand vis mechanics), the Jedi profession is going to look like a kid all decked out in football pads stuffed with Charmin so he can go out and play with everyone else.
Digitalalchemyzt wrote:
AND we dont all sit in our houses to piss you off!!
guess we got a stalemate here now dont we?
couldn't have said it better myself!
MrSemi wrote:
BudBandit wrote:
SF wont work itll become a gank squad of one or the other. Sf jedi show up on the terms and all of the sudden the Sf BHunter travels to Theed. His mark is there and right before the attack BAM!!! 12 SF Jedi pop out and give him some prison love. Wont work
I dunno about prison love but I see your point. IREALLY like the idea of making bounty hunters SF to attack SF but it'd require some tweaks.
I have a feeling Many Many BH would hate the idea of going overt.
Good post.
If you go overt you die to a gang of Jedi 9 times out of 10.
No matter how weak Jedi claim to be our how strong the BH is no single BH can fight 3+ Jedi.
And the EXACT can be said for JEdi...no matter how weak BH claim to be, or how strong Jedi is no single Jedi can fight 3+ BH's.... yet that is happening daily.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
MrSemi wrote:
BudBandit wrote:
SF wont work itll become a gank squad of one or the other. Sf jedi show up on the terms and all of the sudden the Sf BHunter travels to Theed. His mark is there and right before the attack BAM!!! 12 SF Jedi pop out and give him some prison love. Wont work
I dunno about prison love but I see your point. IREALLY like the idea of making bounty hunters SF to attack SF but it'd require some tweaks.
I have a feeling Many Many BH would hate the idea of going overt.
Good post.
If you go overt you die to a gang of Jedi 9 times out of 10.
No matter how weak Jedi claim to be our how strong the BH is no single BH can fight 3+ Jedi.