Bounty Hunter Archive

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JustG wrote:

... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.

Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.

Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.

The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.

We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...

We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.

This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.

This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.

Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.

This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.

/salute

- g

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Right JustG, but also pls consider moving the Jedi missions up to MBH, since otherwise ppl will just take investigation tree, freeing up way more skillpoints than what you have calculated.
By the way, I saw armor in game with 40% LS protection. This, added to personal shield generator, "nerfs" Jedi damage in PvP to nearly nothing.

yours

Message Edited by RedDragon133 on 06-30-2004 10:40 AM

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JustG wrote:

... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.

Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.

Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.

The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.

We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...

We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.

This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.

This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.

Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.

This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.

/salute

- g

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Just piqued my curiousity. Why keep the exploration line? Isn't the hunting line more in line with the Bounty *Hunter* profession?

Sorry, but this is a terrible solution. When this was thrown about a few weeks ago and put to a vote on a thread, I'd say about 4 to 1 people were saying NOT to lower the requirements for Bounty Hunter. Why do you guys even bother to ask us things? What can you do right now to make us happy? How about take a step back? Stop this before it starts. Read what is being said in this thread and THEN make a decision. Why are you asking us what you can do right now when you've already decided? Now that you've lowered the SP requirements you're unlikely to give us anything more in terms of boosting the strength of our profession. I really just don't understand your post at all JustG... What can you do now? I don't know, maybe actually pay attention this time? Listen to us, instead of decide something and listen to us whine for 6 months to change it.

You know we're unhappy about bugs, and you talk about how you're working on it. Great. You realize that BH mark bugs have been in this game since Day 1? How about putting that manpower used for that Jedi mission bug, after u guys fix it of course (because we all know anything related to Jedi is a *priority*) on the invisible mark bug, marks spawning in buildings bug, etc, etc, etc, etc?

Bounty hunter should be the best combat class, and should have working missions, and thats the reason why we all picked it. And this is not the case. It has never been this way. It needs to be this way.

By lowering the SPs needed to grab BH all you are doing is encouraging real bounty hunters to leave the profession and dabble. I didn't pick BH so that I had to choose ANOTHER profession to make it worthwhile. Well, why should I stay at all? The NPC missions are too easy, bugged, and just plain boring. The Jedi missions are now damn near impossible, bugged, and have an insulting bounty reward. Player bounties don't exist outside of the player organizations that managed to set up a system themselves.

What can you do today for me? Nothing. You can't cure all of our problems in one day, so PLEASE DO NOT TRY. I don't want a short term fix and neither do most of the other true bounty hunters. I want a real fix. This SP "fix" is not temporary. It is permanent. And as usual it will create more problems than it solves.

Fix the bugs (yes, more than just the Jedi issue you seem to be so concerned with) with the damn class FOR ONCE. Light a fire under it. Then raise the bounty reward on Jedi missions to 150,000 again, where it should be. I don't care if 10 people are exploiting. Way to punish me and the thousand other honest bounty hunters for a few idiots. It's funny that you guys asked us what should be done about that too. I failed to see anyone say, "hey make the missions only pay 15,000!". You were talking reduction by 25k, or 50k, but NOT 100k. One of the options was to take them out altogether, temporarily. Well, that's what you've done my friend. In the most backhanded fashion possible, by insulting us with 15k missions. Do you guys even play this game? So you make Jedi 10 times harder to kill and the missions pay 10 times less.

Don't take the easy way out. Actually sit down and put some effort into this. Listen to our correspondent who I'm sure has talked about all the combat mods that we deserve, oh, 5000 times. And please don't ever ask us what to do again, after already making a decision on what to do. If your question was supposed to be rhetorical, then never mind. Thanks for making up our minds for us.

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JaveRel wrote:

I think you BH guys are not seeing this correctly. I used to be a BH and ya it was pretty lame. The thing is I think BH should never have been a class at all. Why do you have to be a replica of Boba Fett to be called a BH? I mean anyone can be a BH but the Devs went and messed it up by giving it a class. It should have been open to any combat profession not like it is now. I don't see why you BHs want to stay in the same vein as everyone else. It gives you guys more flavor and more to choose from. Yes I agree making the whole scout tree better is a great idea but what profession doesn't need some serious revamping?

This is the best they could do on short notice and I think it makes more sense. Why does a BH have to use pistols, carbines, and llc? A TKA could be a BH, so could a pistoleer, a CH, a carbineer, or rifleman. My point is a BH is not a set of skills but more of a decision by a player. This is what the Devs messed up by making you all the same ole formula. Its very boring and now you can mix it up and be more of a unique BH instead of the same old crap.

Jave Rel

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I agree. At this point they might as well remove the profession as it will be easier to balance the combat professions without it as now we will be sucking skills like we did out of carbine making it totally useless without the BH speed mods. Just remove it and put all our skills in the other professions.It will probably be better for us and better for everyone else, especially in dealing with Jedi and making fights more interesting.

About time
Great you choice you made, thx !
As for suggestions:
Anything to make master worthwhile.

Irrac/Gorath

1. MOVE JEDI (and future player bounties) BOUNTIES TO THE MASTER BOX!




• I think this will be a MUST in order to preserve the profession and provide some real incentive to Master it


2. Add a "weapon change speed +2" to the Master BH box




• Gives an incentive to Master and reduces the weapon switch time


3. HAVE TO FIX THE JEDI MISSIONS!




• 15k for a mission is insulting, it cost that much just to get ready for getting a mission




• 75k for Low level Jedi


• 125k for Middle level Jedi


• 175k for High Level Jedi


• I simply do not beleave TH's assertion that BH/Jedi are teaming up for 150k. It is such a small amount in comparison to how much a Jedi's Alt can make that I just have a hard time accepting it. If it does take place, it is few and far between, don't hurt everyone for the actions of a VERY few.


4. Change the LLCto a Rifle, rather then a Heavy Weapon.




• Bounty Hunter needs to be the Pre-reg


• If you do this, I'd cut the damage stats in half


• I recommed this because BH should not have a HEAVY WEAPON, but we should be using Rifles

Overall, I like the removal of the Scout skills. Personally I would like to see the BH Pre-Req increased to resrtict the # of Bounty Hunters we have. But that may be hard to do.

1. Master Marksman- 77 skill points


2. Pistoleer - Must complete at least 1 tree - 20 skill points required


3. Carbineer - Must complete at least 1 tree - 20 skill points required


4. Rifleman - Must complete at least 1 tree - 20 skill points required


5. Complete 1 additional tree- (Must complete a Second Tree in Pistoleer, Carbineer, or Rifleman) -14 skill points required


6. Scout (4-0-0-0) - 29 skill points required

Message Edited by rYsyn on 06-30-2004 09:35 AM