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Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??

Vorpak
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:18 pm
#404
Hmmm. BH is calling me back. Not yet. Perhaps soon. Now if they just make the actual BH profession work.


Tuck
KeyTokikoMima
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:25 pm
#406





JustG wrote:



Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??





(a) Move Bounty Hunter mission completion/payout to Jedi cloning event, not /deathblow. <---- ESSENTIAL! We'll camp their corpses if we have to for the time being.


(b) Force immediate respawn event on Bounty Hunter mission /deathblow. You need a workaround for the triple incap possibility, but not immediately. Just don't allow the mission to expire until the BH completes or cancels the mission, or the Jedi's death was delivered by another Bounty Hunter.


(c) Increase Melee Defense Mods. Consider adding 'Lightsaber Evasion' as a skill.


(d) Move Investigation +3 mod to either Investigation IV, or MBH box. I would prefer MBH, but that might make climbing the Investigation tree VERY difficult.


(e) Temporarily increase the durations of all BH State effects to compensate for the new 3 second timers.


(f) Look into temporarily increasing the damage of BH Carbine specials, and the range of the LLC.

Message Edited by KeyTokikoMima on 06-29-2004 10:27 PM

KeyTokikoMima
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:38 pm
#407




instapeace wrote:

You can all quit your jobs and end your lives.




Assuming we are employed and capable of coherent thought, agreed.Very philosophical.



Unless... You mean the Devs? Well, I'm certain they have jobs currently, but coherent thought capacity remains to be seen. They did get us into this mess, after all.



But honestly, I disapprove of suicide more than anything.

Message Edited by KeyTokikoMima on 06-29-2004 10:42 PM

Ridrek
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:44 pm
#408
how many more posts Just G before we get a follow up to this post or are you guys gonna do a one shot us again.



Ridrek Khaz

A Raven Master Bounty Hunter

FH Buffalo Soldier
Kulian
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:47 pm
#409




SkepticalJS wrote:





JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g







Holy cow!


Just G... this is a start.


I also think these might help:


+50 accurace to LLC line. put it at master if you wish, or dice it up througout the line.


Make the effect for ourspecials last long longer than it does now... the weaponswitch timer really really really hampers our ability to use our specials since our effectiveness comes in our VERSATILITY, not our focus on one weapon. This weaponswitch timer really goes against everything you set up the BH to be. I only suggest going this route, because I don't know if you have the ability to turn off the weaponswitch for just BHs..


That's all I can think of for now....





Message Edited by SkepticalJS on 06-29-2004 01:45 PM





holy, this is nice stuff...i can see a lot more people joining the bh lines now...but with this i can be a mbh and still be able to hold my own hopefully against a jedi...but this will give us some defense because for the most part we dont' have anything to stack so if i can do say TKM/MBH (just for arguments sake) that will make me so much better than i am now defensively im already rpetty good offensively and on a second thought i can accually grind other profession sfor holocrons without worrying about dropping all of bh just to get one profession done.


at any rate this is a start and i am happy to see this for us bhers.



-Truwen

instapeace
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:54 pm
#410




KeyTokikoMima wrote:





instapeace wrote:

You can all quit your jobs and end your lives.




Assuming we are employed and capable of coherent thought, agreed.Very philosophical.



Unless... You mean the Devs? Well, I'm certain they have jobs currently, but coherent thought capacity remains to be seen. They did get us into this mess, after all.



But honestly, I disapprove of suicide more than anything.


Message Edited by KeyTokikoMima on 06-29-2004 10:42 PM



Why would one want to co-exist with such ignorance.


They poison people who know what they are doing because they make decisions for those that make and code the game.


His entire post is so negative, he nearly insinuates that there aren't any problems at all, and that it would be a real time consuming hastle to fix things period, thus not wanting to even begin the task.

Message Edited by instapeace on 06-30-2004 12:56 AM



Inquisitor Instapeace
Imperial Master Bounty Hunter & Ace Pilot
Solo Portfolio
dpowell0
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:55 pm
#411
JustG,


You guys really need to think before pulling the trigger. This is not a good fix or a good way to treat paying customers. You must realize that this is a HUGE change to the BH profession and something this big should not be implemented on a whim at the last minute without any discussion with the BH community or our correspondant. This never even hit test center for crying out loud. Our biggest beef with you guys is that we feel neglected and ignored. Making this kind of major change without any warning or discussion is a slap in the face and we resent that.. Let's put some honesty on the table here. If you dont care about our vision and ideas for BH just say so and tell us what you guys have in mind and what is coming. That way, if its not what we want we can change professions and quit wasting time.


Exploiting jedi missions for cash or xp is not a new thing so I dont understand how this could have come up at the last minute.

I know that Jedi is the priority right now and ALL other professions are taking a back seat until the Jedi changes are done.

If BH was just being neglected along with all the other professions, I'd at least call this fair. But BH is actually getting screwed (more than once, btw) as Jedi changes are implemented. It's one thing to delay changes to our profession while you work on another, but to actually damage our profession in the name of improving another is terrible.


There's also more broken in this game than BH. We arent the only profession to be treated with this kind of disrespect. The smuggler profession in particular comes to mind. PVP and the GCW is a joke. Content is severely lacking. I feel like I'm just being strung along by little changes like mounts, vehicles, new dungeons, and the promise of a revamp and the space expansion. It's like there's this promised bright future off in the distance, but we never seem to get any closer.


I try to be optomistic and think about how good the game will be down the road, but Im afraid it might be too little too late. JTL and combat revamp are steps in the right direction but i know those are months or maybe even a year away. And in the meantime, City of Heroes is starting to look good. Other upcomingmmorpgs like WOW, Middle Earth online, and Matrix onlinehave got my attention too.


I am a lifelong star wars fan and a mmorpg based in the star wars universe is my dream game. I want you to fix this game and have it live up to all it could be, but I'm afraid by the time you get there, myself and a lot of other players will be gone.


I really hope you prove me wrong.








Lossk Ruskin
Master Tailor / Master Pistoleer
Lok, Stock, and Barrel Mall
1316 -252 in Paradox, Lok
Chaind2f8
Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:58 pm
#412




Kulian wrote:




SkepticalJS wrote:





JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g







Holy cow!


Just G... this is a start.


I also think these might help:


+50 accurace to LLC line. put it at master if you wish, or dice it up througout the line.


Make the effect for ourspecials last long longer than it does now... the weaponswitch timer really really really hampers our ability to use our specials since our effectiveness comes in our VERSATILITY, not our focus on one weapon. This weaponswitch timer really goes against everything you set up the BH to be. I only suggest going this route, because I don't know if you have the ability to turn off the weaponswitch for just BHs..


That's all I can think of for now....





Message Edited by SkepticalJS on 06-29-2004 01:45 PM





holy, this is nice stuff...i can see a lot more people joining the bh lines now...but with this i can be a mbh and still be able to hold my own hopefully against a jedi...but this will give us some defense because for the most part we dont' have anything to stack so if i can do say TKM/MBH (just for arguments sake) that will make me so much better than i am now defensively im already rpetty good offensively and on a second thought i can accually grind other profession sfor holocrons without worrying about dropping all of bh just to get one profession done.


at any rate this is a start and i am happy to see this for us bhers.



-Truwen





I would just like to point out in the first highlight that this template would not be possible at all because there are not enough SPs available to your character ( I know you said for arguments sake but I just wanted to make sure we were all clear on that point.)


For the second highlight, I'm not sure but I believe that hologrinding has been removed with Publish 9 and you will be unable to unlock a Jedi slot until Publish 10 through the FS quests. You may have your own reasons for wanting to continue a futile grind, I'm just making sure you were aware.





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Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:00 pm
#413
I am looking forward to this.

I have also changed my stance.


MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO INVEST 4 and lower invest EXP.


BTW FIX DROIDS BEFORE ALL ELSE.



Where life had no value,
Death, sometimes had its price.
That is why the Bounty Killers appeared.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -- - - -- -- - - -- -- - -- -
MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
Icre
Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:00 pm
#414
I don't know if I like this idea of taking almost all scout off of the requirments to become a BH. Now It will only take a couple days for others to become a BH. Also Im affraid BH is gonna be the most common proffession then. As much as I thought the scout was the stupidest, and useless thing in the game, and a hudge waste of points for my BH, I rather keep the scout just so the game doesnt flood with BHs.


My suggestion is, make it twice as hard to get to the BH proffession then. Do that and take away most scout, and you will make every BH happy,and make up for all the crap you did to us.





Lowca - Dro Master Swordsman / Master Doctor
Starsider - Dro Icez Master Bounty Hunter
Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:06 pm
#415
Make jedi hunting require the stalker title then.



Where life had no value,
Death, sometimes had its price.
That is why the Bounty Killers appeared.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -- - - -- - - -- -- - - -- -- - -- -
MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
ButterBandit
Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:09 pm
#416




Icre wrote:

I don't know if I like this idea of taking almost all scout off of the requirments to become a BH. Now It will only take a couple days for others to become a BH. Also Im affraid BH is gonna be the most common proffession then. As much as I thought the scout was the stupidest, and useless thing in the game, and a hudge waste of points for my BH, I rather keep the scout just so the game doesnt flood with BHs.


My suggestion is, make it twice as hard to get to the BH proffession then. Do that and take away most scout, and you will make every BH happy,and make up for all the crap you did to us.







It won't make me happy I want attacks that actually work against Jedi.



hmm...yes, stolen your butter has been.
-Banditus
Teras Kasi Master-4000 Bounty Hunter-0030 Squad Leader
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