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Thread: FEEDBACK: Jedi Missions No Longer Showing Player Name, or Bounty Payout

KOLBROOKIE
Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:07 am
#378

ok this is the real deal im master bh MASTER rifle man with accuracy mods +50 + 50 speed, i dont move when i fight a jedi i used advanced aim +FOOD,

but i miss more than i hit this game is so retarted is not even fun any more ok a guy with no skill can miss

but a mbh mr misses 75% with +50 tapes and food and advanced aim ,what is it with this game it is so messed up a master misses more than a novice


IF YOU want us to go 1v1 you better make it so we hit 100% of the time at master if not stick your game up your brown star cos this is the worst game in the world and you are loseing more customer ever day now just close all the servers and delete everthing.

i say in 6 months no more people will be playing this crap game

also stims disapper when in combat with a jedi, items i payed 20 mill for dissapper and i never get a reply from your crap cs or the dev team.

this is the worst cs and game in the world

i love starwars this is not starwars this is crap

ive payed for 2 years and still nothing still the same bs

so in all this jedi still have 85% block with the armour and aura and infusion and every other thing a jedi gets also

they give them more offensive power as well ,but you jedi will say oh we got a big nerf ,bs if you ask me,

the dev take with one hand and give it with the other with jedi with all the other profession they just take away.


now that is pure bs devs licking jedi a$$ which is wrong because most jedi have exploited the game to get to jedi.that is a fact .

most jedi are over the 210k mark so they have nothing to lose but you still lick there a$$,

and make them stronger if a jedi is afk he should die in 3 shots like they kill us in 3 hits ,but we are at the keyboard? how is this balance.

what is the point in hunting jedi when they get all the tricks and stuff we get nerf nerf nerf you destroyed my uber weapons you made evey one the same,

but you made jedi even stronger ffs are you all so thick you can do one thing right,

i hope you get it right cos in 6 months there with be only jedi servers

at the moment there is 1200 jedi on gorath no guild can stop a team of jedi unless they are jedi

GCW is a joke

DEVS team is a joke

jedi/bh is a joke

the whole game is just 1 big waste of money

my account will be canceled and many more as well if you dont fix this jedi problem oh wait jedi make more money than any amount of full servers right


what is best all servers full and a good gcw

or 1/3rd of the servers 1/3rd full with just jedi

thats is how dumb soe really is ???

prove me wrong but i dont think you can now

Message Edited by KOLBROOKIE on 07-08-2005 01:34 PM



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warrenbassist
Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:13 am
#379






LGandalf wrote:





MasterARP wrote:
If this goes live we must have element of surprise---therefore

PLEASE FIX THE /DUEL EXPLOIT JEDI USE TO DETERMINE IF WE HAVE THIER MISSION before Pub20 goes live






Sure, but only if they fix the /addfriend exploit bh use to check if jedi ar on-line.




Umm, you do know that BH don't know who they are hunting right? Consider it fixed.
Ezzah
Fri Jul 08, 2005 5:47 am
#380


Removing Jedi names = Worst idea ever. (Next to removal of permadeath).
Where are you're real solutions SOE?
2 years is getting beyond a joke.



SOLUTION:


1) Fix visibility system so that Jedi dont get on the boards for trying to stay below the radar.
-Jedi doing the right thing dont end up on the boards


2) Introduce an incremental system so that for every completed master box, the number of BH ABLE TO ATTACK THE JEDI AT ONE TIME is increased by 1. (starting from 1)
-Stops jedi taking their own mission, as the number 'mission' instances would be unlimited, but only 1,2,3 etc could attack at once.


3) Introduce SABER TEF into NPC citys.
-BH wont have to go and find the mission for the Jedi showing off in public.


4) Make each Jedi worth the same amount (500k for example)
-BH wont be able to tell the level of the Jedi, but still are not inconvinienced by wasting their time getting a crap payout.


5) Reimplement BH droids on Kashyyyk
-BH wont have to go to Kashyyyk, find the Jedi, go back and get the mission and then return to kill the Jedi.
-BH will be able to hunt afk grinders on Kashyyyk.


6) Introduce automatic eject from structure on AFK Jedi.
-BH wont be inconvinienced by getting repeated missions on unkown jedis sitting AFK in private structures.

Scoooter
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:26 am
#381






Ezzah wrote:


Removing Jedi names = Worst idea ever. (Next to removal of permadeath).
Where are you're real solutions SOE?
2 years is getting beyond a joke.



SOLUTION:


1) Fix visibility system so that Jedi dont get on the boards for trying to stay below the radar.
-Jedi doing the right thing dont end up on the boards



2) Introduce an incremental system so that for every completed master box, the number of BH ABLE TO ATTACK THE JEDI AT ONE TIME is increased by 1. (starting from 1)
-Stops jedi taking their own mission, as the number 'mission' instances would be unlimited, but only 1,2,3 etc could attack at once.


A similar proposal wsa made to stop paddy ganking...number of missions based on level of jedi..guess they did not want to do that one


3) Introduce SABER TEF into NPC citys.
-BH wont have to go and find the mission for the Jedi showing off in public.


This one might work


4) Make each Jedi worth the same amount (500k for example)
-BH wont be able to tell the level of the Jedi, but still are not inconvinienced by wasting their time getting a crap payout.


The whole payout changes are bad. BH's need an idea of the strength of the Jedi because the level of jedi they can handle is directly related to the build they chose


5) Reimplement BH droids on Kashyyyk
-BH wont have to go to Kashyyyk, find the Jedi, go back and get the mission and then return to kill the Jedi.
-BH will be able to hunt afk grinders on Kashyyyk.


That was a techical problem with the instanced dungeons. Not sure if they can really accomodate that


6) Introduce automatic eject from structure on AFK Jedi.
-BH wont be inconvinienced by getting repeated missions on unkown jedis sitting AFK in private structures.


I don't think so you dont need an I win button










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Karmii
Fri Jul 08, 2005 6:38 am
#382

I hate this idea! I'm a Jedi.... This means that its all completely random... Its BS. If the devs plan ot "hot fix" this as a temparary change and later chagne ti to something "better" then we are screwed. Bhs won't hunt since its a 1 in 100 -1 in 10,000 chance of actually findign a JEdi who isn't A) online B) not AFK C) not on Kashyyyk and D) not going to use an exploit to get tou of fighting. So that means the BH has to either sit on them in an instance for several hours or spend ALL day looking for his mark OR start and quit 100 missions a day. Its BS. The curretn system is good. And the new system will be a System of a down!


/watches as the devs destroy SWG after they got it to a good point.


LGandalf
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:51 am
#383



warrenbassist wrote:


LGandalf wrote:


MasterARP wrote:
If this goes live we must have element of surprise---therefore

PLEASE FIX THE /DUEL EXPLOIT JEDI USE TO DETERMINE IF WE HAVE THIER MISSION before Pub20 goes live




Sure, but only if they fix the /addfriend exploit bh use to check if jedi ar on-line.


Umm, you do know that BH don't know who they are hunting right? Consider it fixed.





*Sigh* You don't really expect you will be hunting anonymous targets? It is pretty obvious to me that names will be removed from terminals display but will be given to bh somewhere during tracking process - after use of seeker or sth. That's why BH will get a name and then add it to their friendlists to check if jedi is on-line or not. Which I consider to be an exploit (definition of exploit: unintended use of game mechanics). It is a list of friends, not enemies, ffs.
Vlamr
Fri Jul 08, 2005 7:55 am
#384



LGandalf wrote:


warrenbassist wrote:


LGandalf wrote:


MasterARP wrote:
If this goes live we must have element of surprise---therefore

PLEASE FIX THE /DUEL EXPLOIT JEDI USE TO DETERMINE IF WE HAVE THIER MISSION before Pub20 goes live




Sure, but only if they fix the /addfriend exploit bh use to check if jedi ar on-line.


Umm, you do know that BH don't know who they are hunting right? Consider it fixed.





*Sigh* You don't really expect you will be hunting anonymous targets? It is pretty obvious to me that names will be removed from terminals display but will be given to bh somewhere during tracking process - after use of seeker or sth. That's why BH will get a name and then add it to their friendlists to check if jedi is on-line or not. Which I consider to be an exploit (definition of exploit: unintended use of game mechanics). It is a list of friends, not enemies, ffs.


As it stands on TC right now(pub20), they are 100% anonymous until you reach the mark. So no element of surprise any longer. Also you may run the risk of hunting friends or others you dont wish to hunt. Hopfully we can reach some sort of alternative before this goes live.



Vlamr Englis of Wanderhome
LGandalf
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:27 am
#385



KOLBROOKIE wrote:
ok this is the real deal im master bh MASTER rifle man with accuracy mods +50 + 50 speed, i dont move when i fight a jedi i used advanced aim +FOOD,

but i miss more than i hit this game is so retarted is not even fun any more ok a guy with no skill can miss

but a mbh mr misses 75% with +50 tapes and food and advanced aim ,what is it with this game it is so messed up a master misses more than a novice


LMAO, you must really suck if above is true. Seriously. Why do you people whine so much? If your template is not good for what you want to do, this means you have to find another template, not expect developers to change the game system to fit your personal expectations. Wake up, the world doesn't spin around you.


IF YOU want us to go 1v1 you better make it so we hit 100% of the time at master if not stick your game up your brown star cos this is the worst game in the world and you are loseing more customer ever day now just close all the servers and delete everthing.


Whine, whine and more whine. All i see is "me wants, give me what me wants!" attitude. Grow up, that was good when you were six.

i say in 6 months no more people will be playing this crap game


So you say. Who cares? Really.


also stims disapper when in combat with a jedi, items i payed 20 mill for dissapper


LOL! Jedi also are reason behind cancer, sun eclipse and your flu. Oh, and don't forget world hunger!


and i never get a reply from your crap cs or the dev team.


With that kind of attitude? I'd be really surprised if they did.

this is the worst cs and game in the world


Less whining on the boards could help to change that. But it is easier to whine than write something useful.

ive payed for 2 years and still nothing still the same bs


Oh, in that case - I'm really sorry for your long-term memory disfunction.

so in all this jedi still have 85% block with the armour and aura and infusion and every other thing a jedi gets also

they give them more offensive power as well ,but you jedi will say oh we got a big nerf ,bs if you ask me,


Of course, as we all know every jedi has 6500 skill points and can have all possible protections, jedi skills and secret specialpowers like /dissappearDumbTarget'sStimsAndCAs.


the dev take with one hand and give it with the other with jedi with all the other profession they just take away.


Yes, they just given to jedi a wonderfull healing nerf and at the same time increased healing for you cm's. They gimp jedi because respec bh's have no skill and whine so much and you still whine. I guess devs need to give all jedi negative defenses and half the movement speed so you respecers stop rambling. I saw good BHs kill full templated jedi, they did that in duels and real combat. Only no-skills whine when they lose. Learn the game, adopt to changes, use tactics and tools you are given and you can fight everyone, jedi or not. But to do that you have to stop grinding your Master Whiner box here.

now that is pure bs devs licking jedi a$$ which is wrong because most jedi have exploited the game to get to jedi.


Hm...that kind of argumentation sounds like a wifebeater kind of person. Everyone is to blame for everything except yourself. I don't get it - where did jedi exploit? By hard work grinding professions, force sensitive (the grenade grind was a suxxxor, warst thing that can be done in this game ever!) and then more grind jedi xp? You could xp your bh or rifleman during a weekend. I guess you one of thos people who envy other's acheivment but are too lazy to work on your own jedi.

that is a fact


The fact is your accusations are baseless, you just envy others their achievment and blame soe, jedi and who knows who else for your own failures. I'm a patient man, but there is a limit to the number of posts of this kind you wrote i can take and yours really pi.ssed me off.

most jedi are over the 210k mark so they have nothing to lose


Why do you want other people who play this game to lose something? You like to grief others or what is your problem?

if a jedi is afk he should die in 3 shots like they kill us in 3 hits ,but we are at the keyboard?


So you can't kill an afk jedi? Are you for real? You must really suck at this game. Better go play sims or solitere, those don't need much skill. Oh, and they kill you with 3 hits, when you are ranged profession, a rifleman with over twice range than jedi? Uhm, k. Start working on image designer, i see a future for you there.

how is this balance.


Man, your idea of balance is: "nerf jedi, so such a no-skill like me can kill them without any problems". This is not what balance means - go find yourself a dictionary and check what that word means.



what is the point in hunting jedi when they get all the tricks and stuff we get nerf nerf nerf you destroyed my uber weapons you made evey one the same,


Sooo, you want BH be batter than jedi. Mkay, why? because YOU are bh, right? So you actually want developers to make _you_ better than other players, just because you want it? Egoist. Seriously, are you older than six?

but you made jedi even stronger ffs are you all so thick you can do one thing right,


Dude, they nerf jedi with each publish, so you whining lazy respecers can fight us and you stil lose. Stop being so lame, because devs will nerf myjedi to the point when even dwarf nuna pwns me.

i hope you get it right cos in 6 months there with be only jedi servers


And no more whining bhs left? Really? You promise? Please, dear god, make it happen.

jedi/bh is a joke


Your post is a joke, i really hope so. No one can play that bad as you described.

my account will be canceled and many more as well if you dont fix this jedi problem


You promise? Well - bye! Oh, and watch the door, so they don't hit your butt.

oh wait jedi make more money than any amount of full servers right


OMG, SOE makes this game for profit? Nooo, that can't be! I thought they do this for you, so you can be the best! Ah, my world just been shattered. The World must know about that! Go, tell the newspapers.

prove me wrong but i dont think you can now


Nope, noone can. You are just so self centered and egoist that it is not possible.
Nematocyzed
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:29 am
#386

Devs, you have been breaking your word from day one about Jedi. IMO you have damn near ruined the game for a select few who wish to run around with lazer swords. Why are you pandering to a population of about 5% of the players? you are forgeting about 95% of us.


Removing visability from groups is a very bad idea. Remember when you said the life of a Jedi was a difficult one? where is the balance in this?

Screwing up the payouts is a bad idea. You are sending the BHs out blind, no name, no idea of their marks abilities. What kind of real hunter would ever do this?

Removing names from the mission is a bad idea. again, sending the hunters out blind. Watch discovery sometime, the sucsesfull predator STALKS its prey.

I am getting the feeling that you want more people to gain access to this game breaking alpha class character. Do you secretly wish do destroy all that you have done to attempt at timeline continuity and balance between the player classes? Can you not see what problems this new publish will cause? With every publish, you are knocking down jedi to a uber-melee-for-teh-win class. Every day I see more and more Jedi. This is turning into Jedi-wars online. I do not blame all of the developers, I bet this jedi crap is some execuitive's idea on how to make money, not how to run a sucsessful star wars game.

this post has 17+ pages of responses, If you devs have any respect for the players, I ask you to read them.

LGandalf
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:35 am
#387

this post has 17+ pages of responses, If you devs have any respect for the players, I ask you to read them.


Just let me remind you that whiners are not voice of community. Thye are just that - whiners. All people here didn't even play this publish, you have no idea how it works but you keep yelling how bad it is. Just give it time, play it and then express an opinion.
Vlamr
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:39 am
#388



LGandalf wrote:
this post has 17+ pages of responses, If you devs have any respect for the players, I ask you to read them.


Just let me remind you that whiners are not voice of community. Thye are just that - whiners. All people here didn't even play this publish, you have no idea how it works but you keep yelling how bad it is. Just give it time, play it and then express an opinion.


Phhhht... Devs cant read!



Vlamr Englis of Wanderhome
KOLBROOKIE
Fri Jul 08, 2005 8:43 am
#389

oh well same thing here noting new same silly spotty kiddes flameing my posts

gandelf wrote:----

LMAO, you must really suck if above is true. Seriously. Why do you people whine so much? If your template is not good for what you want to do, this means you have to find another template, not expect developers to change the game system to fit your personal expectations. Wake up, the world doesn't spin around you.


so why do jedi on there forums ask for this that and the other??? oh wait your one of them arent you jedi troll exploiter cheat and noob



if you was a hippie i would kick your teeth out.

Message Edited by KOLBROOKIE on 07-08-2005 04:46 PM



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Nox_SWG
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:21 am
#390







Either you're not a jedi or a bh, or you have no clue how to play your template. A fully templated jedi is still way more powerful than any one combination of normal professions. A 2/3rds Templated Jedi with Defender skills is still way more powerful than any other profession combination. Jedi that are crying about being weak obviously lack the skill to play their template. I can take 3-4 bh's even with these so-called nerfs at once fairly easilly, and I neither have m.powers (choke) nor master defender.






Sadly this is so often the case. Incompetent people create a false comparison.


I played in shadowbane beta, and chose one of the worst classes in the game (assassin), and did well with it against people who were just terrible. I beat people 3..5 even 8-1 once. When they were fighting me, *I* knew what they could have done to beat me, but they didn't do it.


They got together and whined, and the assassin got nerfed. Not because the class was good, but because they lost to me in PvP. Unwilling or unable to admit their own deficiency, they choose instead to claim that my baseline was more superior (which was absurd).


I mean how else could someone beat people 3-4:1 regularly unless their class was just overpowered? It certainly couldn't be skill, practice, timing, preparation, better keybindings, better gear, or good tactical choices in the fight.. no, that'd be impossible. SSDG -- Same S* different game.


Good players leverage advantages. They look for them, and adapt. In pvp a small advantage is a BIG thing. A 10% margin is an easy win.



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