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Thread: 17July TC Jedi Tracking Test results

Quiet420
Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:22 pm
#27






Stakex007 wrote:

This is getting pretty damn sad...

SOE keeps saying they want Jedi to be rare. I was reading old posts the other day and saw Q-3P0's about Jedi, and how they are suppose to be very very rare, and live a VERY hard life in SWG. Now adays they live a life of ease on Kash grinding all day long. If we can't hunt them there.... then I agree with who ever said turn off Jedi XP on Kash. If you want to train a Jedi, I wish you the best of luck... but you should have to live a hard life, not have a cake walk.

I wanted to start training a Jedi becuase I liked the idea of haveing to live in the shadows, risking my life to advance, not being able to go into town without always looking over my back, and always haveing to be on the move. However now the only thing jedi do is hunt with a mobil home, and on Kash... and they are grinding and advanceing at a rapid rate. It is clear that the only reason SOE is doing this is to try and increase player population, and increase their money intake in turn. There is nothing wrong with wanting to increase money intake.... but do it by releaseing an amazing expansion, fixing the game thats broken, and a better PR campaign. Not by unbalanceing, andcompleatly destroying the continuity of the game. These moves show that SOE only cares about Jedi... the rest of us can die for all they care, as long as the Jedi are happy.






you know....I'm not in favor of the current situation on kashyyyk...it diminishes the value of my time spent....but there was a time, before the expansion, when people kept saying they wish jedi would just disapear...well to a certain extent, they got their wish....but is that good enough? of course not, now instead of letting them do their thing in the far flung reaches of the galaxy, the same people are crying for the ability to hunt the jedi that did "disapear", and now demanding that the Jedi be forced back into the galaxy at large...look, the bottom line is that with the adjustment of the publish 20 mechanic, if your really intent on ruining someone else's day, you can, even on kashyyyk....the only thing that needs to be fixed at this point is the los buggs at various locations, that are not just abused by Jedi, but by characters of many professions....even npc's for that matter
Chieftain1900
Sat Jul 16, 2005 7:35 pm
#28

They need to reset the time frame of the game to between episode 1-2 so, people don't use that as an excuse to bash the SWG game.




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OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:01 pm
#29






riotcontrol wrote:




Blixtev wrote:

Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.






Are the producers aware of what exactly is happening on Kashyyyk as a direct result of this "design decision" and how it doesn't even slightly resemble a "themepark/quest planet" anymore?

Message Edited by riotcontrol on 07-17-2005 03:04 AM




I suspect that the Producers have directly told the Devs to leave Kashyyk the way it is because they want Kashyyk to be a Jedi safe haven. It's actually a brilliant strategy to maximize profits. Why? Just look at the sheer numbers of force sensitives grinding the Village, and grinding Jedi. The Producers know that these Jedi want to maximize their XP earnings and be safe from bounty hunters. By leaving Kashyyk the way it is, they are ensuring that these Jedi hopefuls, and Jedi Knight hopefuls will buy the Expansion. When you think about it, if all the Jedi bought the Expansion, that would be a lot of money for SOE. That is their reason for leaving it the way it is.


Of course they won't say this outright because it's a bit slimy and underhanded to squeeze money out of their customers in this manner, but hey, that's how people with MBA's think. I don't blame them. I'd probably want to squeeze $25 out of every person who owns a Jedi too. Considering their very large presence in the game, this translates easily into a few hundred thousand dollars of extra income.





OhBuggah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:03 pm
#30






Lotussutol wrote:


If your mark is on kash they are in one of six places so they are not hard to find.


Also, i didn't think his post was smart ass at all...it is NICE to see any dev posts that are more then here is a bug thread for you...or other non informative posts...






Not true. They can be on Rryatt Trail (6 instances), or Myydril Cavern (10 instances). They are very hard to find and very timeconsuming -- over an hour at least. Unless they're helping a guildie, full template Jedi are almost never at Rryatt Trail.

JediMelvis137
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:27 pm
#31






Quiet420 wrote:


you know....I'm not in favor of the current situation on kashyyyk...it diminishes the value of my time spent....but there was a time, before the expansion, when people kept saying they wish jedi would just disapear...well to a certain extent, they got their wish....but is that good enough? of course not, now instead of letting them do their thing in the far flung reaches of the galaxy, the same people are crying for the ability to hunt the jedi that did "disapear", and now demanding that the Jedi be forced back into the galaxy at large...look, the bottom line is that with the adjustment of the publish 20 mechanic, if your really intent on ruining someone else's day, you can, even on kashyyyk....the only thing that needs to be fixed at this point is the los buggs at various locations, that are not just abused by Jedi, but by characters of many professions....even npc's for that matter





1. We don't want the Jedi to disappear on Kashyyyk because that means more Jedi ruining PvP in the months to come. Are you that obtuse that you don't realize that as soon as they finish their grind on Kashyyyk they leave to come back to the other planets and ruin the game for those of us that don't want to see more Jedi than stormtroopers?


2. How exactly can you still hunt your mark on Kashyyyk if you don't know what their name is? How would you like it if you got a mission from the mission terminal but it didn't give you a waypoint, it just said "go blow up a Graul Mauler nest" and you need to keep trying the nests until you find the one the mission wanted you to kill. Sounds pretty stupid, doesn't it? That is what this does to BH.


3. If they really wanted Jedi vs BH to be 1 on 1, only let one BH have the mission at a time, but make the mission fail 15 minutes or an hourfrom the last time you got an update from a tracking droid. This would stop gank squads and also stop the Jedi from having their alt or a guildie take their mission. I don't know - it's not the best idea, but it's better than what we are about to be FORCE-fed (pun intended)...

Message Edited by JediMelvis137 on 07-16-2005 11:28 PM




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Stakex007
Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:45 pm
#32






Quiet420 wrote:





Stakex007 wrote:

This is getting pretty damn sad...

SOE keeps saying they want Jedi to be rare. I was reading old posts the other day and saw Q-3P0's about Jedi, and how they are suppose to be very very rare, and live a VERY hard life in SWG. Now adays they live a life of ease on Kash grinding all day long. If we can't hunt them there.... then I agree with who ever said turn off Jedi XP on Kash. If you want to train a Jedi, I wish you the best of luck... but you should have to live a hard life, not have a cake walk.

I wanted to start training a Jedi becuase I liked the idea of haveing to live in the shadows, risking my life to advance, not being able to go into town without always looking over my back, and always haveing to be on the move. However now the only thing jedi do is hunt with a mobil home, and on Kash... and they are grinding and advanceing at a rapid rate. It is clear that the only reason SOE is doing this is to try and increase player population, and increase their money intake in turn. There is nothing wrong with wanting to increase money intake.... but do it by releaseing an amazing expansion, fixing the game thats broken, and a better PR campaign. Not by unbalanceing, andcompleatly destroying the continuity of the game. These moves show that SOE only cares about Jedi... the rest of us can die for all they care, as long as the Jedi are happy.






you know....I'm not in favor of the current situation on kashyyyk...it diminishes the value of my time spent....but there was a time, before the expansion, when people kept saying they wish jedi would just disapear...well to a certain extent, they got their wish....but is that good enough? of course not, now instead of letting them do their thing in the far flung reaches of the galaxy, the same people are crying for the ability to hunt the jedi that did "disapear", and now demanding that the Jedi be forced back into the galaxy at large...look, the bottom line is that with the adjustment of the publish 20 mechanic, if your really intent on ruining someone else's day, you can, even on kashyyyk....the only thing that needs to be fixed at this point is the los buggs at various locations, that are not just abused by Jedi, but by characters of many professions....even npc's for that matter






Well first off I dont think too many BH's wanted the Jedi to dissapear... as SOE are to afraid to allow BHs to hunt other people (Like us Smuggler damn it!). So thoes that want jedi to dissapear, and thoes that want to hunt them are for the most part two groups of people.

And when people said they want Jedi gone they didnt mean "I want them to go off somewhere they can grind with minimal danger.... makeing the Jedi population skyrocket really fast". So no... Jedi did not disapear at all, and in the near time there will be a very noticeable jump is Jedi population. Full temps won't be doing a whole lot of grinding on Kash now will they?


And what do you mean ruining someone elses day? Jedi are ment ot be hunted... its their purpose in this game. Just becuase some can't seem to get that through their head dosn't mean thats not how it is. If PVP and getting killed is going to ruin your day... dont be a Jedi. Amazing how that works isnt it?



Ezzah
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:01 pm
#33

Blixtev wrote:

5) If you use a seeker in either mode on kash, you get the "too many lifesigns" message and do not get any waypoints (and heres the important bit) DO NOT get a name
Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.




What does XP from wookies have to do with completing quests?
zounds_klaxons
Sat Jul 16, 2005 10:57 pm
#34

i wonder if the devs thought about these things for more than 5 minutes before implementing them.



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SamousNemo
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:15 pm
#35






Blixtev wrote:


Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.





Absolutely appalling




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ehenn
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:23 pm
#36

aghhh, so much flaming. stop it. send emails to management/producers/lucasarts,sign petitions, raise your voice,quit the game or whatever, or grow up, just don't flamethe developers.


nobody from management or lucasarts has to (or will, for that matter) read your flaming nonsense on the forums. forums are for the community. management or producersare not a part of it.


cheers Blixtev, thank you for sharing information with us.




ah and btw, I quit this game last year when themanagement's (so-called) priorities came up. i beta couple of peoplein SOE remember one year and two days ago, this day. maybe even some of them were fired that day.





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Mateika
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:24 pm
#37


OK guys and Gals



Not to put a damper on things I pesonally would love for XP to be turned off Kash BUT I honestly feel its kinda TOO LATE its like shutting the door after the horse is in the next county With as many Jedi's that have in a matter of weeks gone from Paddies to full templates Its really has become a joke. I remember 1 thread from someone stating theres goin to be 3 types on the Terminals 1. Full Templates which a Single BH has very little chance of killing 2. the Paddie afking/power grinding to Full Temp 3. the guy that got to happy and showed off his Glowstick at the wrong time. So out of those 3 1 u cant kill most times, the other is on Kash and with no names he gets a free ride to Full Template 3 yea we can take them out but then we get the common Hate tells how ur a noob and a respec BH etc... So Once the no group vis starts ull see alot slimmer Terminal.



So thats my .02 worth

StormTroopercpt0
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:55 pm
#38






SamousNemo wrote:





Blixtev wrote:


Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.





Absolutely appalling






QFE, Very Sad,did the producers say Give Jedi everything they want on a silver platter, wait lets just change the name SWG Jedi Online



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StormTroopercpt0
Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:56 pm
#39






StormTroopercpt0 wrote:





SamousNemo wrote:





Blixtev wrote:


Until the Producers decide otherwise, Kashyyyk stays how it is.





Absolutely appalling






QFE, Very Sad,did the producers say Give Jedi everything they want on a silver platter, wait lets just change the name SWG Jedi Online





sam i think ill put his quote in my SIG lol



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