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Thread: Channel Force

Holzen
Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:25 pm
#27

But it does have a down side. You take a hit of about 300 to each pool everytime you do it. And it takes roughly 3 min to regen those points. Use it 3x and your down almost 1/3 of your helath. So it is far from the I win button that you think. The only way to last an hour in a fight is through very strict force management, including channel, and more then likely the use of a holo.
Maxil
Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:27 pm
#28

yup. the smart ones know that they can just stand there and take damage, channel, and heal forever. If you don't attack with your saber the only force your using is from heals.. channel gives about 200 force, heals cost about 55. My alt can knockdown a jedi, and he'll just stay on the ground laughing, channeling and healing forever...

Untill the 2 other BH's show up and eventually beat his channel speed



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Maxil
Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:32 pm
#29



Holzen wrote:
But it does have a down side. You take a hit of about 300 to each pool everytime you do it. And it takes roughly 3 min to regen those points. Use it 3x and your down almost 1/3 of your helath. So it is far from the I win button that you think. The only way to last an hour in a fight is through very strict force management, including channel, and more then likely the use of a holo.





Eh? I lose about 15% action and very little mind, maybe 5% about that much health tho. With combo of foods and the proper macro you can loop it indefinitly.. my enemy when I channel is more my action than my health, since I have it macro'd with heal so I never putmyself at risk when using it



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Holzen
Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:36 pm
#30






Maxil wrote:





Holzen wrote:

But it does have a down side. You take a hit of about 300 to each pool everytime you do it. And it takes roughly 3 min to regen those points. Use it 3x and your down almost 1/3 of your helath. So it is far from the I win button that you think. The only way to last an hour in a fight is through very strict force management, including channel, and more then likely the use of a holo.







Eh? I lose about 15% action and very little mind, maybe 5% about that much health tho. With combo of foods and the proper macro you can loop it indefinitly.. my enemy when I channel is more my action than my health, since I have it macro'd with heal so I never putmyself at risk when using it



Yeah.....not sure on action and mind but that's what's been posted. The pools aren't all the same size so that's why you are seeing the difference. But you are right it nails the action pool. The point I was making on health is that you cannot sit there and use it over and over unless you want to lower your health into the 1 shot incap territory.

Lovage
Sat Jun 18, 2005 6:52 pm
#31

any jedi that uses this can render them selfs dead in one hit if they regen a full force pool with it i have seen jedi with a health pool under 500 because of refilling an empty force pool with this



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rubix-pewb
Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:09 pm
#32

Channeling takes about 300 from all three pools total amount. you start with 3100 at lvl 80, channel once, and your max health is down to about 2800 total and about 200-300 force is what you get for it. If the jedi is lasting an hour doing this, he has no action left to do more than one special every 10 or 20 seconds. This skill is balanced.
Tassadarr
Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:13 pm
#33

Well this guy had some crazy macro or something going because his vitals were doing just peachy. Then again he would run over a hill or try to get away every 15 minutes or so. Perhaps that was his refresh.



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Maxil
Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:30 pm
#34

yes, if you let us regin, your basicly starting from scratch. If we just stand there, the only force we waste is on heals, so with the right food, and you heal once with every 2 channels (if your near full health) or channel then heal... Your fine. As said I can get knocked down, just lay there, and my action regins fast enough with foods/spice that I can channel/heal untill the cows come come, because I'm not using force on anything else. In fact one time I went afk while kd'd from a BH to eat dinner. Was stupid on my part but wanted to test a channel/heal macro... came back 30 mins later he was still pounding on me..

/shrug



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Holzen
Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:38 pm
#35






Maxil wrote:
yes, if you let us regin, your basicly starting from scratch. If we just stand there, the only force we waste is on heals, so with the right food, and you heal once with every 2 channels (if your near full health) or channel then heal... Your fine. As said I can get knocked down, just lay there, and my action regins fast enough with foods/spice that I can channel/heal untill the cows come come, because I'm not using force on anything else. In fact one time I went afk while kd'd from a BH to eat dinner. Was stupid on my part but wanted to test a channel/heal macro... came back 30 mins later he was still pounding on me..

/shrug




lol...should have popped the /afk flag up....would have really pissed him off
delanstarrunner
Sat Jun 18, 2005 8:45 pm
#36






Tassadarr wrote:

Anyone ran up against this nice little power? I've already had two marks use it. The first mark I fought for an hour straight(not exaggerating) and we finally decided to make a truce. The second Jedi would have taken an hour if another BH hadn't shown up at the thirty minute mark and jump into the fold. It seems that they can just continue to regen force which I rely on them to run out of since I'm pistols. It just ends up being hit hit hit heal heal heal hit hit hit heal heal heal and gets no where.


What I'm asking is, anyone ound a good strategy against this? Or maybe I just don't know enough about the power.






Wait till you go up against one with a high damage, no cert. carbine or rifle, and use Ruby + 1000 heal stims. Using a KD/root/snare combos helps but more DPS is going to be your best tactic. When you see them using alot of action, this is when you want to concentrate on high DPS while kiting.


Oh, I'm obviously a Jedi . . . but it can be done with good timing. If they are not practicing good force management, they will have to channel alot at one time which will sap thier action and health.





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Caelrie
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:22 pm
#37






Maxil wrote:
yup. the smart ones know that they can just stand there and take damage, channel, and heal forever. If you don't attack with your saber the only force your using is from heals.. channel gives about 200 force, heals cost about 55. My alt can knockdown a jedi, and he'll just stay on the ground laughing, channeling and healing forever...

Untill the 2 other BH's show up and eventually beat his channel speed




I'm afraid you're not really all that clued in on how channel works.
SgtSixpack
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:30 pm
#38






Caelrie wrote:





Maxil wrote:
yup. the smart ones know that they can just stand there and take damage, channel, and heal forever. If you don't attack with your saber the only force your using is from heals.. channel gives about 200 force, heals cost about 55. My alt can knockdown a jedi, and he'll just stay on the ground laughing, channeling and healing forever...

Untill the 2 other BH's show up and eventually beat his channel speed




I'm afraid you're not really all that clued in on how channel works.





Or how the force cost is calculated on heals.



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TheLastV8
Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:38 pm
#39

wait till they tack a mind cost to heals.

Should be fun.



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