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Thread: LD killing!!!!

Jadeddy
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:52 am
#27

Hmmm, to kill or not to kill depends. I once tracked a jedi to his city on corellia, and went into his mall under the guise of shopping. He used the duel/endduel exploit on me and then citybanned me. I went up to the roof to ask why, he and his guild insulted me for abit, then he tried logging off or his connection broke, anyway, Incapped and DBed for the easiest 200+K ever. Had he not exploited and been a jerk about it, I may have let him live. Oh, if the jedi is a jackass then whatever kill him LD, if he plays like a real jedi should (not gank people in theed) then id say its a different story.



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Ialwysdie
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:59 am
#28

The problem could easily be fixed as far as a /logout or such is concerned.


I play Planetside and Everquest 2 from time to time.


In planetside when you basically try to normally log out depending on your location it can take 10-30 seconds for the logout to complete. During this time you cannot move or take damage or the logout cancels and you remain in the game. I can only assume but i do believe that once you do leave the playable screen your character disappears from the world.


In Everquest 2 there are 2 options you can camp which will givea short period of time where just like planetside you must remain motionless and you actually and it counts down and taking damage or doing any other action cancels the process. Once the timer is done you immediately leave the game and your toon leaves the world. You do have the option to just leave without camping but they warn you that your character can remain in the world for up to 2 minutes if you fail to do so.



Why can't SWG incorporate something like this? It prevents people from being able to abuse trying to logout to prevent from being killed while reassuring people that once they do leave the playable screen their character is no longer in the world.

Orthell
Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:24 am
#29



robpro wrote:


AdoyKindred wrote:
Although I am new to posting on the forums, and just had to reverify again (?) I felt the need to voice my opinion about this. I read several posts concerning killing jedi while they are AFK grinding or waiting until they go LD. Yesterday I actually saw an LD kill for the first time, since I don't even try, and I knew just how much it could not be intended as it is being used, and yes even exploited by some BH.


As a Bounty Hunter I understand getting your mark no matter what, but I also think that getting your mark gives them the chance to fight, run, etc, not taking advantage when they are booted from the server, loss internet connection, or have computer problems. We all have had some problem causing us to be randomly kicked I'm sure. For those questioning my motives I will tell you that the Jedi killed is a guild member and friend, but the manner of the kill is what bothers me not that he was killed. After all I am a bounty hunter and killing jedi is an integral part of this game. I am going to try to add a clicky to this, if it doesn't work please some one make it a clicky if I don't figure it out. Also, I've not been around since the beginning, but I have been playing since Dec 2004 and have learned many things about this game.


To the Devs: is there a way to fix this? My biggest problem with this is he logged off, per the chat logs, almost a full minute before the first attack. To BH: isn't the hunt the fun part, making a kill on a player with the capability to kill you. There is no other game experience that has ever come close to the rush felt as you prepare to attack and actually attack. Having talked with Jedi many also say the rush they feel is similar to mine even when they die.


I have no compasion for AFK grinders because that is not the way to improve your own skills and it ruins the game for me. In the end though, they are taking the risk of an easy kill, so as long as they don't hinder other players from enjoying the game I guess they make the final call.


Ah well, now for the screen pics of the chat logs so you can see what I'm talking about.


CLICKY



So anytime a jedi dont want to fight they should just pull the plug on ther internet making them LD so nobody will attack them.
$hit happens live with it. If you lose connection or power goes out that much that it becomes that much of a problem maybe they should look into buying a new PC, battery backup, better internet (this game recomends a broadband connection).
Funny thing is Jedi dont have the LD problems while AFK grinding there jedi its only when a bh is in sight or coming for them do they have so many connection/power problems.
Jedi would exploit it if they could not be attacked while LD just the same as they exploited the login/out bug that use to make them un-trackable by droids. Oh wait they were not exploiting it they just all had really bad internet connections that required them to login/out 10 times in under 2 min before they could play.





It's not always like you would assume SOE, ISPs and other unexpected errors can cause this regardless of what computer you have at home. Last night, a friend of mine has been dropping every 10 minutes. This has NEVER happened to him before. Then I saw it happening to other ppl, including myself. And I NEVER get disconnected unless the server goes down, but I sure was getting it last night.

LD killing is low, you don't know what happened. If a BH was hunting me and went LD, I wouldn't attack. It's way lower than those stupid Jedi AFK grinding (never done it, never will, don't want that kind of reputation).







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Eleutherios
Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:33 am
#30

A long time ago, it used to be that once you went LD, you were unattackable. Lots of people exploited this by running away from the enemy and pulling out their modem cable when they were going to lose, thus allowing them to escape death. Having people be attackable while LD is worse than making them unattackable.


I've only had one LD kill. It was strange -- he was trying to run away using FR, and I KDed and Snared him. When I got him to the last bit of his health, he went LD right there on the ground. I guess he lost connection right at the end of the fight. Sucks for him, but I wouldn't pull out.





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PH
Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:34 am
#31


LD.. AFK... or whatever.. connection problems...


well bad luck for the Jedi.... if I would be tracking the mark I would not hesittate second...


I even killed a LD once was sitting in the starport ... guessing he was logging... well to behonest it was the perfect moment for a BH.... a rare oppertunity to make such a kill.. I would compliment every BH who can do it... as it is the perfect timing....


is it fair.. noway.. then again is it fair for a jedi vs a BHin a 1 on 1 fight.. nahhhh.....


besides I like to roleplay..!!




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skyreaper
Thu Aug 11, 2005 8:52 am
#32

I think Hurrlobacca said it best its not the BH's problem to determine if they lost connection or tried to logout. We as BH's have a job to do and get paid very well to get it done. Regen had a perfect example of what the Jedi would do if the BH went LD. Also one of our skill trees is named dirty tricks so get over it and play the game.
dewie
Thu Aug 11, 2005 9:58 am
#33






Ialwysdie wrote:

The problem could easily be fixed as far as a /logout or such is concerned.


I play Planetside and Everquest 2 from time to time.


In planetside when you basically try to normally log out depending on your location it can take 10-30 seconds for the logout to complete. During this time you cannot move or take damage or the logout cancels and you remain in the game. I can only assume but i do believe that once you do leave the playable screen your character disappears from the world.


In Everquest 2 there are 2 options you can camp which will givea short period of time where just like planetside you must remain motionless and you actually and it counts down and taking damage or doing any other action cancels the process. Once the timer is done you immediately leave the game and your toon leaves the world. You do have the option to just leave without camping but they warn you that your character can remain in the world for up to 2 minutes if you fail to do so.



Why can't SWG incorporate something like this? It prevents people from being able to abuse trying to logout to prevent from being killed while reassuring people that once they do leave the playable screen their character is no longer in the world.







they do have this..../logout has a 30s timer, can't take damage or move or the logout is cancelled


the /logout command does remove your character from the world


LD means they simply disconnected, lost internet connection, power, etc...


AdoyKindred
Thu Aug 11, 2005 5:41 pm
#34

First off,THANKS to everyone thats been posting as this is where I learn alot of what I try in game.


I guess my biggest problem with it is if you can log off and be gone in 30 seconds, why was he still, "In the world," after a minute and then a minute and a half after it said he was offline. In reality he was disconnected for about five minutes before it showed him offline. If he was already being attacked then went LD from logging, lossing connection, etc I'd be like, sorry bout your bad luck, but in this case it was straight out low. Don't get me wrong, BH uses everything available, but .....















Vampyr - MBH (Finished 1 day before CU) / MCM
Orthell
Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:48 pm
#35


PH wrote:

LD.. AFK... or whatever.. connection problems...

well bad luck for the Jedi.... if I would be tracking the mark I would not hesittate second...

I even killed a LD once was sitting in the starport ... guessing he was logging... well to behonest it was the perfect moment for a BH.... a rare oppertunity to make such a kill.. I would compliment every BH who can do it... as it is the perfect timing....

is it fair.. noway.. then again is it fair for a jedi vs a BH in a 1 on 1 fight.. nahhhh.....

besides I like to roleplay..!!






Well, if you like roleplaying a lowlife BH without skill that can only win thru cheats and expliots, then fine. I was under the impression that BHers used skill, but you're proving that wrong.

Message Edited by Orthell on 08-11-2005 06:50 PM







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Dropoff and pickup vendor @ Dantooine, Cape Arissi -987 4548--- Hey, who broke my lightsaber???
Ethor
Thu Aug 11, 2005 6:57 pm
#36



Orthell wrote:

PH wrote:

LD.. AFK... or whatever.. connection problems...

well bad luck for the Jedi.... if I would be tracking the mark I would not hesittate second...

I even killed a LD once was sitting in the starport ... guessing he was logging... well to behonest it was the perfect moment for a BH.... a rare oppertunity to make such a kill.. I would compliment every BH who can do it... as it is the perfect timing....

is it fair.. noway.. then again is it fair for a jedi vs a BH in a 1 on 1 fight.. nahhhh.....

besides I like to roleplay..!!






Well, if you like roleplaying a lowlife BH without skill that can only win thru cheats and expliots, then fine. I was under the impression that BHers used skill, but you're proving that wrong.

Message Edited by Orthell on 08-11-2005 06:50 PM





Not all do, just the really childish lowlifes that cannot do anything in life without exploiting and cheating to ruin everybody else's gameplay because they hold their own game time above the rest regardless of costs.
Orthell
Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:01 pm
#37



Ethor wrote:


Orthell wrote:

PH wrote:

LD.. AFK... or whatever.. connection problems...

well bad luck for the Jedi.... if I would be tracking the mark I would not hesittate second...

I even killed a LD once was sitting in the starport ... guessing he was logging... well to behonest it was the perfect moment for a BH.... a rare oppertunity to make such a kill.. I would compliment every BH who can do it... as it is the perfect timing....

is it fair.. noway.. then again is it fair for a jedi vs a BH in a 1 on 1 fight.. nahhhh.....

besides I like to roleplay..!!






Well, if you like roleplaying a lowlife BH without skill that can only win thru cheats and expliots, then fine. I was under the impression that BHers used skill, but you're proving that wrong.

Message Edited by Orthell on 08-11-2005 06:50 PM





Not all do, just the really childish lowlifes that cannot do anything in life without exploiting and cheating to ruin everybody else's gameplay because they hold their own game time above the rest regardless of costs.




Lol, I thought you didn't post from work? Hurry up and get home or I'll use the good computer and make you use the older one.

BTW, stay out of this, ppl already know we're married in game and in RL!







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Orthell Tersk - Elder Jedi
Dropoff and pickup vendor @ Dantooine, Cape Arissi -987 4548--- Hey, who broke my lightsaber???
Ethor
Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:06 pm
#38



Orthell wrote:


Ethor wrote:


Orthell wrote:

PH wrote:

LD.. AFK... or whatever.. connection problems...

well bad luck for the Jedi.... if I would be tracking the mark I would not hesittate second...

I even killed a LD once was sitting in the starport ... guessing he was logging... well to behonest it was the perfect moment for a BH.... a rare oppertunity to make such a kill.. I would compliment every BH who can do it... as it is the perfect timing....

is it fair.. noway.. then again is it fair for a jedi vs a BH in a 1 on 1 fight.. nahhhh.....

besides I like to roleplay..!!






Well, if you like roleplaying a lowlife BH without skill that can only win thru cheats and expliots, then fine. I was under the impression that BHers used skill, but you're proving that wrong.

Message Edited by Orthell on 08-11-2005 06:50 PM





Not all do, just the really childish lowlifes that cannot do anything in life without exploiting and cheating to ruin everybody else's gameplay because they hold their own game time above the rest regardless of costs.




Lol, I thought you didn't post from work? Hurry up and get home or I'll use the good computer and make you use the older one.

BTW, stay out of this, ppl already know we're married in game and in RL!




Go back to your OWN forums Jedi! /tease

Sorry, just had to do it.

And yes, LD killing is wrong, we all know it. It is going beyond roleplaying and into real life attitude problems. I've never lowered myself into it and never will. Only children do that.

There you happy now? Be home soon.
OhBuggah
Thu Aug 11, 2005 7:49 pm
#39

LOL. I'm the bounty hunter the original poster is talking about. He is totally mischaracterizing me. I like my picture better.


Some facts about this Jedi and this kill:


(1) I spent45 minutestrying to find a Jedi to hunt who wasn't locked inside of a private structure. Everytime I track down a mark I get buffed. Each time I pay 10k. So I paid 10k numerous times, expended numerous arakyds, and travelled across numerous planets before I finally got a mission on a mark who was accessible.


(2) After I spent 45 minutes finding a good mission, I travelled to Dathomir and spent another 10 minutes riding my bike from the starport to the Imperial Prison tracking this guy down.


(3) Contrary to the characterization that I "waited" for him to LD, I did no such thing. As soon as my targetting macro targetted him and I was in range I jumped off my BARC and unloaded. I did not know he was LD. I don't pay attention to titles or whatnot floating above or below people's names. After a few hits I realized he was LD but didn't care considering all these circumstances.


(4) This Jedi I killed, Zartan, is one of the server's most trash-talkingest, most disrespectful Jedi. I personally had fought him before and lost. He was the most ungracious, disrespectful, undeservingwinner I've ever lost to. He continued to trash talk and all that jazz even after the fight was over.


SO, considering I wasted one hour of my life just to find a Jedi who wasn't a housesitter, combined with the fact that this jedi is a complete a**hat, does anyone really think I should've stopped attacking him and let him off free as a bird as he, for all I knew, logged off for the night but was too lazy to use the /logout command?


I think not.
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