Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Jedi are overloading saber...have you been hit yet?
mindspat wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
Honestly I was trying to test along the lines that this may be bug. If I found that Jedi can hit 1000 damage every second I may question the validity of it, and ask for a confirmation.
BDragon wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
1200 damage, I even posted a screen shot of the combat log.
1.2k is not an exploit hit at all. The most i have ever reached was 1.8k on a swordsman who i had KD/broken and the fool didnt have armour on (and couldnt have been TK, or that number wouldnt have happened). What i will say is this, if you are ever hit for more than 1.3k then get very, very worried and take screenshots. If you have proper armour of 7k or more, then power attack should not be ever hitting for more than around 1.3k, KD or not.
Get the eploiters banned, they dont help us legit Jedi at all
The follwing numbers are not accurate:My saber speed is around 1.4 and my max dmg is 670ish with 202 elemental damage. I have seen instances where I have performed several attacks within the same second as per the time stamp although lag is likely an issue here (the server lag has been horrendous lately).
After applying Armorbreak (60% reduction of resistences???) and getting a Knockdown (saber throw) on a Bountyhunter I've been able to follow up with a /powerhit and get close to 1300 damage. I can do this on a regular basis with little effort. This will also soak up my action if done repeatedly.
There's a few other attacks that seem to break the attack timers thus showing as if they were striking their targets in the same second although I need to do a little more testing before feeling confident in starting a new witch hunt. I've been hit in this fassion on several occasions and it is devestaing. Nothing worse then getting hit 5 times in 2-3 seconds for 600-900 a piece.
Yes and you'll notice that the number i told the BH to be careful for is 1.3k, because i know thats the upper limit of how much we hit for. With a 745 max damage saber, on someobdy with 7k rating armour, with power attack you can hit 1.3k +change. Now, you can hit for 1.8k on 0 defence, no armour person, but you arent hitting for 2k damage.
Once my PC starts behaving itself im going to log in-game to test this with a friend. I'll see what the max damage i can hit a no-defender Jedi for is with my 745 max saber + KD + break + Powerattack, and if any BH has been hit for more than that then its smelling like an exploit, because as we know, BH have more defence than a non-defender and better armour ( overpowered
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Jargal wrote:
/sigh
An other jedi cheat....when will it end?....
FlightSergeantRose wrote:
With good battle armor and a shield gen I got hit for 1500-1600 consistently from one jedi. Needless to say, he slaughtered me
mindspat wrote:
Nathanielstarr wrote:
mindspat wrote:
First, the frist part of your post exemplifies the need to have a combat log with time stamps active. The second part of your post is a complete contradiction to the creation of this thread.
Nathanielstarr wrote:
iskareot wrote:
warrenbassist wrote:
1200 damage, I even posted a screen shot of the combat log. I had food buffs, good armor, I'm a double master, and my duelest stance on throughout. The Jedi still averaged twice if not more the amount of damage I did to him. And saber throw still knocks you down, which if I remember right from pub 19 patch notes is not supposed to KD anymore. If Duelest stance gives +250 defense I wonder how much damage he would've done without it.
I'm still testing combat against sabers to see if there is a workaround, but so far its not looking like it.
Message Edited by warrenbassist on 07-14-2005 01:41 PM
TIme out.... TIME OUT... Now listen I dont Cheat and any freaking one of you can come find this out or ask a DEV..
BUT, I can do 1200 damage in the right setting to you... so DO NOT think this is not done from a MLS with perfect sabers.. some of us do that them and that is almost exactly the damage we can do with powerstrike and armor break... or some other powers...
So that number is possible... as far as above 2k (Well I have to see that crap)... 1200 though.. Oh yes its possible.
Ive been hit for over 2000 in a single hit and more than 1000 for hits that couldn't be powerhits because they were successive every second.
But jedi are allowed to exploit.
I do have timestamps and that is how I know and the second part...(ive updated the post btw) is just a sad statement of factual information because even if we point out these exploits nothing will be done for a long time.
Well damnit, let's make a difference and get this junk fixed!!!
I had expressed the issue relating to saber speed with Tiggs and Dave (don't recall his last name) at FanFest. They claimed they would be taking this erious and would look into it. The work around for the speed bug is what's brought this up. I would advise sending a solid PM to the DEVs. Also, post it on the "live bug" treads being listed by muppet controler.
Alright I'll do it. No doubt I'll run into some of these jedi again after pub 20 hits...
Message Edited by cootz on 07-14-2005 06:36 PM
warrenbassist wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
with over 500 defense and 7000 energy armour i was hit for 1.4k the other day
As it stands from what I've seen now if a MLS gets even within arms distance forget about it.
Jargal wrote:
I've heard that jedi hitting twice in the same attack is an other, new jedi cheat. I've heard it from various jedi players.
Post if you know anything about this...
I dont' know how to duplicate this double hit at the same time attack, but i do know that i personally have hit with two shots at the same time with my Rifleman alt. As I said, i have no idea how to replicate the bug, for all i know it was lag that cause it(the two shots were advanced sniper shot and advanced head shot) The sniper shot went first, fired at the end of hte cool down, then the head shot went off at the end of the cool down for sniper shot as well.
As for jedi over loading sabers, i've heard it's possible, but don't know how to do it. Any jedi that does do it should have their account suspended, or even have them booted from the game.
My thing is, i'd love to test and see if i can get these exploits to work, so that i can report to the CSR's how to get them to work so that they can fix them, but i'm scared that they'll catch me in testing ban me lol.
P.S. If you do know how these exploits work, DO NOT POST HERE. Send a PM to Tanks, or another Corospondant. Also submit multiple bug reports in game and submit a CSR ticket. Please get these bugs fixed ASAP as they will only hurt both the jedi and the BH community in the long run.
Cada_Kai wrote:
I have hit thigs 2 times at the same time before. I have no idea how it happened. Like the poster above me I assume it is server lag showing 2 hits at the same time, when infact they are hit sepperatly. (this games network code is not the best i think we can all agree on that)
As for Padding sabers.
If Jedi are using this exploit I think they shoul dhave the account suspended, or banned.
As I may have opsted in this thread or another one that had been deleted, I have also attacked more then once per second and on a few occasions I've seen something closer to 5 attacks in 2 seconds. It's hard to tell if this was a lag issue although I'm aware of players who run macros with the intent to break these timers.
Spookibus wrote:
Mindspat,
From a couple of these posts, it appears there are two exploits here allowing peopleto deal massive damage so quickly there is no opportunity for response. One is the saber overloading, and the other is a bug that allows two attacks simultaneously. I asked in my guildchat, and several people were aware of how to accomplish it.
I've never been hit for more than 1k (980 with 6000 armor), but I have been taken downin multiple hits very quickly on two occasions--both faster than I could even hit heal once. It prompted me to turn the time stamp on my combat log.
Yeah Spook, I've recently noticed something odd when selecting "certain" attacks. I had been able to hit 3 times within a 2 seconds. The time stamps weresomething like 10:10:11, 10:10:11, and 10:10:12.
I doubt this is intended and I have not commented about it 'cs it's still new to me. I've only noticed it on a few occasions through PvP with other jedi and recently in PvE. I intend to test it and report it ASAP. (haven't been able to test recently...)