Bounty Hunter Archive

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StolenDiagram wrote:

Waaaa, Waaaa. Did baby's bottle get taken away again?

Suck it up kiddies, thats what the jedi have had to do ever since publish 10. This is a complete contrast to the Jedi nerfings of publish 19, I bet you weren't voicing your complaints over that one eh?

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Yep, this forum was a real love fest after the post for pub 19. Laughing and joking about what was going on in the neighbors yard. Now the termites have moved over here and started destroying things.

No doubt next publish corks will be popped and you'll be toasting the grief and crying on the other side of the fence yet again since for 2 years now we've experienced what balance and fixing really means to the dev's of this game.

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Andurilh wrote:

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StolenDiagram wrote:

Waaaa, Waaaa. Did baby's bottle get taken away again?

Suck it up kiddies, thats what the jedi have had to do ever since publish 10. This is a complete contrast to the Jedi nerfings of publish 19, I bet you weren't voicing your complaints over that one eh?

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Yep, this forum was a real love fest after the post for pub 19. Laughing and joking about what was going on in the neighbors yard. Now the termites have moved over here and started destroying things.

No doubt next publish corks will be popped and you'll be toasting the grief and crying on the other side of the fence yet again since for 2 years now we've experienced what balance and fixing really means to the dev's of this game.

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I agree with your balance statement whole heartidly. The devs/QA's idea of game balance is appalling. As long as they make changes by totally destroying professions to fix others, there will never be such a thing as game balance.

I dont see this pub as a nerf. But I see some problems with it. Hopefully the devs, in all of their "divine wisdom", will see this as well.

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StolenDiagram wrote:

Suck it up kiddies, thats what the jedi have had to do ever since publish 10.

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Yeah alot will deal with it and moveon, my quesion though is how about all the new people who want to try becomeing a MBH, no way they can learn if all they are going up against is 200k jedi's. Hard to learn if you keep gettig your butt handed to you all the time.

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

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OnmiScient wrote:

Also 45000 - 52000 credits 45000 FOR KILLING A JEDI WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING !Well come up with a better Idea you say !

- Allow a Padawans Mission to only be taken out once, meaning no gank squads

- Put all the missions on one list, for goodness sake sifting tonnes of missions is not fun or enjoyable

- Rebel / Imperial Filter

- Only Online Jedi

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Well, I bet they were thinking you'd read the whole thing and not the parts you wanted to read.

It quite clearly states 45k-52k plus a bonus amount based on level and time since the Jedi was last killed. That means....tadum...you can earn MORE THAN YOU DO NOW!

And if you'd done a modicum of further investigation you'd see that the only missions that are generated are for ONLINE JEDI ONLY.

But it's easier to rant and rave.

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Also several other players have reported that on TC, the payouts are roughly the same after they get the bonus's. The reasoning behind doing that I am guesing is to get more people to hunt full temp jedi's. You still get your 226k or even more now, but you wont know they are a full temp until you get to them.

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Ah, that's cool - I thought they might spend some time tweaking the 'bonus' payout bit, but if they've nailed it first time then this is all great stuff

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OnmiScient wrote:

Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Jedi missions are only created for online Jedi, the Jedi may go offline after the mission is created
Jedi missions display Faction instead of Jedi name
Jedi missions all display a payout of a random number between 45000 - 52000 credits on the terminal but may pay a bonus amount based on level and time since the Jedi was last killed

Well I havnt been around here long but already SOE have managed to propose some changes that willfook up the game, nice ! Its not the first time they have screwed up a game I liked.

Ok so now we get to see if the Jedi target is Rebel or Imperial, great thats one change that is good. You cant see the Jedi name so this means that when they log off for supper half way through you will have wasted all your time, nice. Yet another time wasting thing is that you dont know what level the Jedi you are hunting is so when you come across a Master Healer or Master Defender you have wasted all your time because it is impossible to beat them if the Jedi knows what they are doing. This is bad for Bounty Hunters who are beggining hunting Jedi too why dont the DEVS ever think of them ?

Also 45000 - 52000 credits 45000 FOR KILLING A JEDI WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING

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Is it manditory that most BH's have selective reading. If you would have finished reading the sentence you would have noticed that you get a bonus depending upon level and how recently the jedi was killed.

Perhaps you should try finishing the sentence before you comment.

Message Edited by Grimjakk on 07-08-2005 08:57 AM

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

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Fugitron wrote:

Good lord this is funny, BH's told the jedi to stop cryin for patch 19, now its the BH's cryin about patch 20. LOL. You all wonder why the jedi are not feelin for ya? Maybe cause of all the BH's posting on the jedi forums sayin to suck it up. Yea its a nerf - just now its your turn.

I have a MBH & a jedi. I think this system will be better. Hell I even think patch 19 helped my jedi temp out. So who knows. Give it a chance before you rant more.

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BH said that because we knew that Jedi weren't getting nerfed. Look at MDef and MLS now... tell me that Jedi is gimped... pffft. This is a nerf. This is a royal "BH grab your ankles and close your eyes" kind of surprise. And give it a chance??? At what? In what universe does a person take a job and not know what the job is? Apparently, this one. So like the other guy said... I take a mission on a Jedi... if he's on Kash, my droid will tell me that it can't pinpoint it. At this point, I could delete the mission. If I keep it, I have to hunt Kashyyyk and in the mean time, the Jedi logs out... how will I know that?

Why can't we just have a spynet operative on the planet that the Jedi is on that "has seen the Jedi" that can give us his name? That would make more sense in an RP perspective.

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NOT all Jedi are MLS and/or MDef. Mpowers/Menhancer/Healer 4004 SHOULD be just as viable or even somewhere close and it's not.

That's like saying "well because pistoleer rifleman and combat medic are ok, screw the rest of the professions".

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Here's where you are missing the point. The balances were to even out the different force branches with each other. The best I can tell, the adjustments made in Pub 19 were put in place with expectation of the return of FRS. Jedi were saying how boring it was to fight each other because all they could do so little damage to each other. What changes were made? Healing abilities were reduced while lightsaber damages were increased and powers were reduced in cost.

And what happens when they try to make all branches viable? The Jedi start whining because some of them are reduced in power while others are improved and the ones calling it a nerf quickly drown out the few sensible ones who understand it for what it is.

Can you explain why Healer 4004 should be anywere remotely close to as good as a MDef, MLS or any other master force user? That you would expect it to be just reveals once again the Jedi mentality that unbalanced is balanced as long as it's in their favor.

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OnmiScient wrote:

The thing is with all you Jedi is that you dont realise that without your Jedi skills you would probably have your rear end handed to you on a plate. The only thing that makes you 'good' is your Jedi skills, they make you the most powerfull character in the game so it should be hard ! I wont quit Bounty Hunting it has just annoyed me and if you hadnt noticed the forums are where you voice your opinions *gasp*. As for all those just calling me an idiot, I will assume you lack the intelligence to form a proper response. The reason I used big red letters was to provoke a response and it looked like it has worked.

If you try to take out a Master Defender / Master Healer in a conventional fight it is impossible if the Jedi knows what he is doing. This is what you are subjecting Bounty Hunters who are starting out to. It will only mean the start of 'OMFGLAMZ0R' BH tactics like befriending the Jedi and then killing them when they have told you they are going to get a drink.

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Sorry, but I'm going to have to call you on this one. Jedi without their powers would be like you without any of your specials. You'd be pretty useless too if all you had was a basic attack. Now, you might be able to argue that some of those skills are overpowered...

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slave138 wrote:

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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

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Fugitron wrote:

Good lord this is funny, BH's told the jedi to stop cryin for patch 19, now its the BH's cryin about patch 20. LOL. You all wonder why the jedi are not feelin for ya? Maybe cause of all the BH's posting on the jedi forums sayin to suck it up. Yea its a nerf - just now its your turn.

I have a MBH & a jedi. I think this system will be better. Hell I even think patch 19 helped my jedi temp out. So who knows. Give it a chance before you rant more.

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BH said that because we knew that Jedi weren't getting nerfed. Look at MDef and MLS now... tell me that Jedi is gimped... pffft. This is a nerf. This is a royal "BH grab your ankles and close your eyes" kind of surprise. And give it a chance??? At what? In what universe does a person take a job and not know what the job is? Apparently, this one. So like the other guy said... I take a mission on a Jedi... if he's on Kash, my droid will tell me that it can't pinpoint it. At this point, I could delete the mission. If I keep it, I have to hunt Kashyyyk and in the mean time, the Jedi logs out... how will I know that?

Why can't we just have a spynet operative on the planet that the Jedi is on that "has seen the Jedi" that can give us his name? That would make more sense in an RP perspective.

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NOT all Jedi are MLS and/or MDef. Mpowers/Menhancer/Healer 4004 SHOULD be just as viable or even somewhere close and it's not.

That's like saying "well because pistoleer rifleman and combat medic are ok, screw the rest of the professions".

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Here's where you are missing the point. You missed the point. It's not about how things are supposed to be, it's about how things ARE. Smugglers are SUPPOSED to get a revamp. They're still waiting. The rule of thumb for these games is "If it's not in code, it doesn't exist". The balances were to even out the different force branches with each other. And they failed miserably. The best I can tell, the adjustments made in Pub 19 were put in place with expectation of the return of FRS. Jedi were saying how boring it was to fight each other because all they could do so little damage to each other. What changes were made? Healing abilities were reduced while lightsaber damages were increased and powers were reduced in cost.

And what happens when they try to make all branches viable? The Jedi start whining because some of them are reduced in power while others are improved and the ones calling it a nerf quickly drown out the few sensible ones who understand it for what it is. Of course they will. And when they do, I'll call 'em out for being stupid just as I call out people for being stupid now.

Can you explain why Healer 4004 should be anywere remotely close to as good as a MDef, MLS or any other master force user? That you would expect it to be just reveals once again the Jedi mentality that unbalanced is balanced as long as it's in their favor. I never, ever, ever said that. Go back and re-read what I really DID say. That's NOT what I expect, so that once again reveals the BH mentality that says it doesn't matter what's really going on, just what I think is going on. A MPowers/MEnhancer/Healer 4004 should be just as viable a template as a MLS/MDefender/Healer 4004. It clearly is not. It should be just as viable as a MDefender/MHealer/LS 0404. Again, it clearly is not. It should be just as viable as a MLS/MEnhancer/Healer 0404. It's not.

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BrynnQel-Droma wrote:

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StolenDiagram wrote:

Suck it up kiddies, thats what the jedi have had to do ever since publish 10.

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It's been quite a bit longer than that.

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Give me a break... things have gotten increasingly easier for Jedi as time has gone on. For every one thing they reduced they made two others that much easier.

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slave138 wrote:

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BrynnQel-Droma wrote:

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StolenDiagram wrote:

Suck it up kiddies, thats what the jedi have had to do ever since publish 10.

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It's been quite a bit longer than that.

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Give me a break... things have gotten increasingly easier for Jedi as time has gone on. For every one thing they reduced they made two others that much easier.

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Generally speaking, LATELY that's true - IF you include balances in that. Some get buffed, some get nerfed. That's just how these games go. But over the course of time, Jedi has gotten progressively weaker.

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TatterSalad wrote:

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OnmiScient wrote:

Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Jedi missions are only created for online Jedi, the Jedi may go offline after the mission is created
Jedi missions display Faction instead of Jedi name
Jedi missions all display a payout of a random number between 45000 - 52000 credits on the terminal but may pay a bonus amount based on level and time since the Jedi was last killed

Well I havnt been around here long but already SOE have managed to propose some changes that willfook up the game, nice ! Its not the first time they have screwed up a game I liked.

Ok so now we get to see if the Jedi target is Rebel or Imperial, great thats one change that is good. You cant see the Jedi name so this means that when they log off for supper half way through you will have wasted all your time, nice. Yet another time wasting thing is that you dont know what level the Jedi you are hunting is so when you come across a Master Healer or Master Defender you have wasted all your time because it is impossible to beat them if the Jedi knows what they are doing. This is bad for Bounty Hunters who are beggining hunting Jedi too why dont the DEVS ever think of them ?

Also 45000 - 52000 credits 45000 FOR KILLING A JEDI WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING

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Is it manditory that most BH's have selective reading. If you would have finished reading the sentence you would have noticed that you get a bonus depending upon level and how recently the jedi was killed.

Perhaps you should try finishing the sentence before you comment.

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I don't think selective reading is limited to a single profession. Case in point - Jedi crying about healing abilities being reduced but completely ignoring that almost everything else was being improved for them in Pub 19. Here's the difference: BH's aren't getting anything positive from this at all.