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Thread: What are jedi going to do when our snares negate FR
RoundWallKing
Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:37 pm
#27
What will I do? Well since healing with a regular profession takes action now and Jedi heals take less action with the upcoming patch, I will Just kill any BH that comes for me. The BH glory days are over.
Zara-
Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:38 pm
#28
Easy to answer my Bounty Hunting friends. Personally i will not gain Visibility and you will not be able to hunt me, problem solved. Just a shame that other Jedi players are so thick as to realise this. Would be highly amusing to see the reaction you lot gave, if other Jedi players decided to do this. Im sure you will all be wonderfully happy hunting NPC marks.
Cerosis
Mon Oct 17, 2005 7:45 pm
#29
well, this new snare over riding all run speed buffs is stupid. if for example, my FR3 gives me +200 spd, and your kneecap shot gives -40 speed, i should still be at +160 speed. Of course because of force run 3 i still couldn't hit you for crap so it wouldn't matter much.
How about when teh dev's give jedi some better abilities to fight back, and not just abilities that center around running, then jedi will stay and fight. Trust me, this new snare nerf will only hurt everybody in the long run, very quickly people will find out it has become too powerfull, everybody will get snares in their template because they will be the only way to compete, and when that happens, it'll get nerfed.
And trust me, i know it from both sides, and as a BH, if a jedi runs, it just makes it that much easier on me to kill them(unless i'm bugged and can't pull out my swoop lol, had that happen the other day, took 15 min to pull out a swoop cause of a server lag spike, by that time my mark was in his house, on another planet lol)
How about when teh dev's give jedi some better abilities to fight back, and not just abilities that center around running, then jedi will stay and fight. Trust me, this new snare nerf will only hurt everybody in the long run, very quickly people will find out it has become too powerfull, everybody will get snares in their template because they will be the only way to compete, and when that happens, it'll get nerfed.
And trust me, i know it from both sides, and as a BH, if a jedi runs, it just makes it that much easier on me to kill them(unless i'm bugged and can't pull out my swoop lol, had that happen the other day, took 15 min to pull out a swoop cause of a server lag spike, by that time my mark was in his house, on another planet lol)
Cerosis
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:01 pm
#30
TheRealXur wrote:
bmill wrote:
dentorious wrote:
Currently 8 out of 10 of my targets run. Either they run from the start or when they realize they can't win. What are they going to do when the new publish hits and my kneecap shot negates their ability to escape.
They will hit you with stasis, and THEN run.... stasis lasts longer than snare, so they will still get away. Jedi need SOME mechanism to get away, I'm guessing that will be it. Until the community complains enough to get stasis taken away. Then it will be KD and root, which when applied properly, sticks you to the ground for the duration of the root. That is, until the community complains enough about that one, then..... I'm not sure. I guess the same thing any non-jedi will do: KD, and burstrun.Message Edited by bmill on 10-17-2005 09:30 AM
The sad part is, you and many others actually believe that statement.People keep talking about Risk vs Reward and how it sucks to be a Jedi. People are lining up to be a Jedi, the servers are flooded with them. This would NOT happen if you didn't have overpowering abilities like the choice to leave a fight. Along with those extra abilities you get XP loss, if and ONLY if you are killed by a BH. Which can ONLY take your mission if you choose to show your saber to NPC's and non-grouped players putting yourself on the terms.The slightest bit of danger (which, btw is supposed to be part of the fun of an alpha class like Jedi) and people freak out. If you don't have the stomach to play a Jedi, then don't.I personally know several Jedi, about half of which leveled under the village system and the other half leveled under the saber tef and skill loss days and even THEY think running from a fight is for those that don't have the fortitude to be a Jedi. And most of them would like to see saber tef's returned along with either permadeath after 3 kills or skill loss returned.You really just don't know how easy it is to be a Jedi these days, it's crazy. And still people complain about it being hard.If being a Jedi under the current system is to hard for you, then don't be one.
I agree, i do want a form of perma death returned(not strict perma death, it's too mean. But something like a blue glowy system that has been suggested multiple times) or a skill loss system. Stipulation is that i want jedi to be returned to their former power. Because neither of those will be likely to happen, I just play my jedi.
You forget, most people play jedi not for the great abilities, or for the flashy saber, or for the PvP(although some do). I would say that most people play jedi because Jedi is what star wars is all about. At the core of nearly every star wars book, and nearly every movie is Jedi and the force. The only exception movies wise that i know about are the two ewok movies. From kids, many people have loved jedi, what they stood for, and what they are. Many kids wished they could be a jedi, wielding a saber, challenging evil and using the force to protect others. The dark jedi are usually people who are older and like the idea of playing the bad guy, or they are the younger darth maul wannabe's(met a few of them, personally i find these type rather pathetic, just my opinion) Then there are some jedi that just want to kick people's butts.
Either way, Not all jedi are bad, and personally, i do think the new system is too easy. But before they can make the system more difficult they need to make it so jedi have more of a chance. Right now very few jedi have the chance to survive a skilled BH's attack, not because of failure of the jedi, but because of lack of good skills in the jedi system. Jedi need more power if you're ever going to see any more challenging system put in place to hold them back.
HanzoShinobi
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:51 pm
#31
VYRIS wrote:
Barb-Wire wrote:
i will just keep killing ya like i always have. seeing as i have no defender or enhancer i got nothing to hold me back. bounty hunters are an amusing distraction at best. mostly they are just pests.
there must not be very skilled BHs on your server then.Message Edited by VYRIS on 10-17-2005 07:53 PM
Message Edited by VYRIS on 10-17-2005 07:54 PM
not really, master powers against the mcm bhs are deadly.
dentorious
Mon Oct 17, 2005 9:58 pm
#32
not really, master powers against the mcm bhs are deadly.
but aginst rifles, not so much.
Nathanielstarr
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:04 pm
#33
TheRealXur wrote:
bmill wrote:
dentorious wrote:
Currently 8 out of 10 of my targets run. Either they run from the start or when they realize they can't win. What are they going to do when the new publish hits and my kneecap shot negates their ability to escape.
They will hit you with stasis, and THEN run.... stasis lasts longer than snare, so they will still get away. Jedi need SOME mechanism to get away, I'm guessing that will be it. Until the community complains enough to get stasis taken away. Then it will be KD and root, which when applied properly, sticks you to the ground for the duration of the root. That is, until the community complains enough about that one, then..... I'm not sure. I guess the same thing any non-jedi will do: KD, and burstrun.
Message Edited by bmill on 10-17-200509:30 AM
The sad part is, you and many others actually believe that statement.
People keep talking about Risk vs Reward and how it sucks to be a Jedi. People are lining up to be a Jedi, the servers are flooded with them. This would NOT happen if you didn't have overpowering abilities like the choice to leave a fight. Along with those extra abilities you get XP loss, if and ONLY if you are killed by a BH. Which can ONLY take your mission if you choose to show your saber to NPC's and non-grouped players putting yourself on the terms.
The slightest bit of danger (which, btw is supposed to be part of the fun of an alpha class like Jedi) and people freak out. If you don't have the stomach to play a Jedi, then don't.
I personally know several Jedi, about half of which leveled under the village system and the other half leveled under the saber tef and skill loss days and even THEY think running from a fight is for those that don't have the fortitude to be a Jedi. And most of them would like to see saber tef's returned along with either permadeath after 3 kills or skill loss returned.
You really just don't know how easy it is to be a Jedi these days, it's crazy. And still people complain about it being hard.
If being a Jedi under the current system is to hard for you, then don't be one.
Yes Jedi is for the weak these days.
Message Edited by Nathanielstarr on 10-17-200511:04 PM
Message Edited by Nathanielstarr on 10-17-2005 11:04 PM
robpro
Mon Oct 17, 2005 11:35 pm
#34
dentorious wrote:
Currently 8 out of 10 of my targets run. Either they run from the start or when they realize they can't win. What are they going to do when the new publish hits and my kneecap shot negates their ability to escape.
Just be prepared for 1500-2000+ hits from jedi that are grouped with squad leaders when you go after them. they wont need to run after publish 24 squad leader goes in unless you have squad leader buffs
shadowdragon2k
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:40 am
#36
majorslappy wrote:
And then, when there are no smugglers?
because smuggler is not a risk vs reward prestiage system. they will always have a incentive to fight with no risk. so there will always be smugglers. also Smuggler would be an optional choice, meaning that they will have an optionif they are hunted unlike jedi who know they will be.
Grizart
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:40 am
#37
Easy answer to this one.... Go play WoW with all the other jedi.
RubicksCube
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:41 am
#38
What are jedi going to do when our snares negate FR
...run slower
shadowdragon2k
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:44 am
#39
they'll do what they are doing now. if they know they cant get away theyll throw everything they have at you.
most will just /kd /root /burst /tar Barc /mount /runlikemofo