Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: The Truth about speed pups and why they are effective! (read Bhs this may help u kill more jedi)
mindspat wrote:
Akast wrote:
well thats the downside if u had infinite sac u would be invincable, so what u do is kill the jedi in the first 15 seconds.
Not happening.
Posibilities:
- AFK
- incaped in PvE
- Multiple BHs
- unprepared paddy
- (see above) Jedi with poor saber
In the end, I would fail to see how a BH is able to have the "15 seconds or I drop the mission mentality." If this is working for you could you detail the advantage? I'm thinking that maybe you could shoot 7-10 times and if it's not a kill then drop mission and rinse/repeat. Maybe you are able to get one under developed Jedi per hour doing this, maybe more?
It's possible, I think you have too much faith that everyone is an expert PvPer. Most people don't even know how Aura works lol.
If a Defender Jedi has Aura, Valor, and food activated quickly....I probably don't have a chance even with my maxed out rifle (well unless I want to play tag for 20 mins). Problem with your theory that Jedi shouldn't lose is most either don't have Valor or lack the knowledge when to use it......also it's funny to see people still question the effectiveness of stuff like Pik Pie.
Akast wrote:
yeah i may have to look into gettign a higher min damage gun .
to the jedi it happens more than u can imagine and i dont drop the misison. ill just use the burst tactic again when im ready to.
ill post screen shots if u dont belive me
4 sec Kill oh heres one form 2 days ago
Ok, this is a prime example of "How to be a Bountyhunter!" Not poking fun, honestly.
What this screeny shows is a Jedi with NO buffs which appears to have had a previous duel due to the damage taken on hitpoints. This is a prime example of HOW TO KILL the mark!!!
(good use of tactics. Sneak up and hit them when they're not expecting it. Very sucessful I bet.)
Dobe76 wrote:
imo your gun has a way to low min damage..your tactic is very lethal if you catch one totally off guard but i already see a problem with getting someone down who "only" has force armor up..
600+ min damage is making a huge difference
Karbal wrote:
Dobe76 wrote:
imo your gun has a way to low min damage..your tactic is very lethal if you catch one totally off guard but i already see a problem with getting someone down who "only" has force armor up..
600+ min damage is making a huge difference
Easy way around the low min damage problem, and yes, the low min damage is a major problem when you fight a master defender.
Your weapon's damage slides on a scale .. the higher your opponents defenses, the further your gun slides to the low end of it's damage scale.
Accuracy on the other hand will slide your weapons scale back the other way towards it's maxium range.
If your using a speed pup while fighting jedi - like I do - you must constantly be on 200+ pyro and use improved aim every chance you get. This will add 440 accuracy to your natural accuracy and slide your weapon way up to it's maximum damage .. making your shots hit hard .. even vs master defenders.
Improved Aim will take a few seconds to charge up, and once it's charged it will last you about10 seconds .. front load as much damage as possible with a chain that will allow you to shoot every second. My favorite, Underhand, Startle, Critical, Head, Ranged, Critical, Head .. recharge improved aim.
Just about exactly what I attempt to do in every Jedi encounter.
WookieOgre wrote:
mindspat wrote:
Akast wrote:
well thats the downside if u had infinite sac u would be invincable, so what u do is kill the jedi in the first 15 seconds.
Not happening.
Posibilities:
- AFK
- incaped in PvE
- Multiple BHs
- unprepared paddy
- (see above) Jedi with poor saber
In the end, I would fail to see how a BH is able to have the "15 seconds or I drop the mission mentality." If this is working for you could you detail the advantage? I'm thinking that maybe you could shoot 7-10 times and if it's not a kill then drop mission and rinse/repeat. Maybe you are able to get one under developed Jedi per hour doing this, maybe more?
It's possible, I think you have too much faith that everyone is an expert PvPer. Most people don't even know how Aura works lol.
If a Defender Jedi has Aura, Valor, and food activated quickly....I probably don't have a chance even with my maxed out rifle (well unless I want to play tag for 20 mins). Problem with your theory that Jedi shouldn't lose is most either don't have Valor or lack the knowledge when to use it......also it's funny to see people still question the effectiveness of stuff like Pik Pie.
I aplogize if this came across negative. I have to assume this roll while I play my main which is a Jedi that has been on the terminals for about 5+ months without being removed. If I did not have this approach I would have been killed numerous times by now.
Yes, I do place high expectations on those who engage in BH/Jedi enssemble. I believe it's a 50/50 thing and being that it's about impossble to select your targets the randomness can appear stacked agasint one. Also, as the previous poster shows he uses stealth and deligence when hunting Jedi. In fact, why would anyone randomly take shots at a Jedi who's fully buffed, using a Focus crystal and appears to have their force fully replenished?
I error on the side of caution. 
sebjones wrote:
ok, lets say im lookin at powerups on the bazaar, how do i know they r good? wot will the spec say?
Speed PuPs will modify attack speed by somewhere around 30-33%, with an accuracy modifier, PuPs made with decent resouces should keep this pretty low, tho I can't give you a figure on that off the top of my head
why are u questioning my ablity do you want me to put all 37 screen shots in my sig that would be a big arse sig wouldnt it. and your obviously not as clever as you think!
in that screen shot thats after ive killed him, OBVIOUSLY so why would the health n buffs they have show up, this is one of those things were the jedi cloned but she looked like she got up were she lied dead.
you type alot but obviouslyyou dont know as much as you think
stop hijacking my thread
Cant wait to try this out tonight and see if I do any better against a jedi than before. Asked a Master Doc about a buff that effects speed and got a "i have know idea what you are talking about " response. I thought i read in one of the above post regarding a doc buff.
Am i misreading ormisunderstanding. Are these buffs just the normal buffs or a speed effecting buff?
Akast wrote:
i either doone of twothings.
if they dont see me and there full ill sniper Kd startle, n alt crit and headshot.
if there fighting a lair ill storm in Kd n spam crit and head shot
ill also use above in a duel type situation
i always aim n drink pyro for my first strike
oh n always use heal droid
I have had people tell me I should use a heal droid.. how do these work? I know, im a newb... but if it will help me I would love to use one.
Akast wrote:
the doc buff lasts about 15 mins and help speed alot always get it.
Regarding med droid, it increases your healing buy about 35-40% pull it out group with it get it to follow you, dont try and res it when it dies, cause it still works when its dead