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Thread: (TANKS)jedi + dabbler = unkillable
STLpMpNu wrote:
Sounds like someone needs to find a new proffesion
ilponn wrote:
lol what if they never go out kill djm or kryats or what ever, if they see us on the radar they disapper or load of there friend rush in to help come on think about,
if we have frist strike like you said it might take weeks to find the right moment ,this is not fun ,this is boring as hell
and even if they are at half force and halflife we still cant get them because we cant hit them for any damage when they have the macros running .
with the power they got now they jusy fr2 towards you kd from 35 meters and then you die just after that because snare does not stick or you miss or they block and with all that put together it is like having 85% saber block back again.
to the noobs this was a test again
Yea,basically.. sounds to me like he's just a terrible BH.
As a Jedi and MBH Alt all I can say is: LMAO!!!!
Seriously, learn to use your skills. I have a non-CM / Doc MBH Alt (ranged only) and I can take 1 out of 3 full templates. I do it by being prepared, equiping myself well and stalking for the first strike. Basicly, I wait for the moment the Jedi gives me, and take it. Get together with a good MBH on your server and have them show you how they do it.
ilponn wrote:
omfg IT WAS A TEST
Stupidest, most nonsensical test I've ever seen.. what exactly were you testing and what were your results?
Tanks wrote:
ilponn wrote:
and all i say is we are not ive got the best weapons the best food best armour ,hes got 4440 def and the rest hes a dabbler.and still he has 3000 health,so no double master for jedi to get 3000 health ,
i was hiting him for 300 with critical shot when it landed i fired 10 shot 2 hit 3 blocked 5 missed so this is like 85% saber block
and he hit me for 900 damage with a crap saber 4 hits im dead and they want us to hunt solo
First, MLS gets 25% Saber block, if 3 out of 10 shots are blocked, then that is pretty close to 25% within the limited sample of 10 shots, not 85% block.
Next, as far as misses go, what was your accuracy, did you have foods, buffs etc.
As far as taking damage, did you have /duelist stance active, high energy resist armor with armor break slice, again what kind of foods?
Also, if he had a crap saber he could not have hit you for 900 damage after all of your mitigation.
As far as damage go, did you have high accuracy to overcome his defenses, did you KD and do your max damage attack?
A lot of variables, but you give no information except getting beat.
PWND by his own correspondent!
Man I wish I had a crap 900 damage glowstick
i had the best weapon 1200 max dam carbine 73 sac 320 dps
i had all the food i needed for the test
my accury with pyro is 510 ,300 with out ,my speed is 155 melee defence with food 340 ranged def 400 and doc buffs
it was a test to see what happened also when i said 85% saber block i ment to say it is just the same as with all the misses and blocks
it makes it up .
i used kd 1 in 5 hit and kd them, snare does not work or is it because he has force run
like i said it was a test to see the results
also how can we get frist strike if the jedi can see us coming from 250 meters this is are only time we can attack
its a bit point less if they no we are they dont you think.
i did use my best attacks and i did use kd
also when a jedi has a macro running his force armour and aura and valor running all the time dont you think it is pointless frist strike wont do crap
my armour was 7000 res to energy
i think i did good i do kill knights but very rare when you can catch them of guard which is never cos they have there stupid macro running all the time which no one can damage them.or there friends help them with offer ride exploit
template mbh mc pistols 0003 medic 0020 with food i heal for 1300 every 5 seconds
got all tapes +25 and i mean all
i was not calling for nerf i was not slaging anybody off
flame away and it is very late here 2 am and my eyes are burning and this is not my sig its my sons
Message Edited by ilponn on 07-19-2005 01:52 AM
Message Edited by ilponn on 07-19-2005 01:55 AM
Message Edited by ilponn on 07-19-2005 01:57 AM
Get some 8k+ energy resist armor and armor break slice all of it, my 612-712 saber can only hit them for ~720 damage with powerhit while they areAB'd and bout 350 for other normal hits.
You my friend are a noob if youre getting one-shotted.
Oh and with aura up and 4440 defender adv snipershot hits me for 1780 damage....
Message Edited by Bawarr on 07-19-2005 02:28 PM
Message Edited by BMFer on 07-18-2005 06:46 PM
Tanks wrote:
ilponn wrote:
and all i say is we are not ive got the best weapons the best food best armour ,hes got 4440 def and the rest hes a dabbler.and still he has 3000 health,so no double master for jedi to get 3000 health ,
i was hiting him for 300 with critical shot when it landed i fired 10 shot 2 hit 3 blocked 5 missed so this is like 85% saber block
and he hit me for 900 damage with a crap saber 4 hits im dead and they want us to hunt solo
First, MLS gets 25% Saber block, if 3 out of 10 shots are blocked, then that is pretty close to 25% within the limited sample of 10 shots, not 85% block.
Next, as far as misses go, what was your accuracy, did you have foods, buffs etc.
As far as taking damage, did you have /duelist stance active, high energy resist armor with armor break slice, again what kind of foods?
Also, if he had a crap saber he could not have hit you for 900 damage after all of your mitigation.
As far as damage go, did you have high accuracy to overcome his defenses, did you KD and do your max damage attack?
A lot of variables, but you give no information except getting beat.
Thank you tanks for pointing all this out to him..... Problem is, this is the type of bh that is doing the loudest screaming and calling for nerfs to jedi left and right. It's also the same type of playing on the GCW boards doing the yelling. People that dont understand the game, or their own profession for that matter calling for nerfs.
Sadly they are the majority of the player base posting on the SWG boards.
Tanks wrote:
ilponn wrote:
and all i say is we are not ive got the best weapons the best food best armour ,hes got 4440 def and the rest hes a dabbler.and still he has 3000 health,so no double master for jedi to get 3000 health ,
i was hiting him for 300 with critical shot when it landed i fired 10 shot 2 hit 3 blocked 5 missed so this is like 85% saber block
and he hit me for 900 damage with a crap saber 4 hits im dead and they want us to hunt solo
First, MLS gets 25% Saber block, if 3 out of 10 shots are blocked, then that is pretty close to 25% within the limited sample of 10 shots, not 85% block.
Next, as far as misses go, what was your accuracy, did you have foods, buffs etc.
As far as taking damage, did you have /duelist stance active, high energy resist armor with armor break slice, again what kind of foods?
Also, if he had a crap saber he could not have hit you for 900 damage after all of your mitigation.
As far as damage go, did you have high accuracy to overcome his defenses, did you KD and do your max damage attack?
A lot of variables, but you give no information except getting beat.
Valid points on both sides.... but here's my two cents.
- Because LS have very close min-max damage ranges, Duelistic stance makes only a small difference in the damage mitigated. I generaly prefer to simply do more damage in order to make my mark heal. I generaly only use duelsitic stance when I have been rooted or sabre armor broke, in the hope they will miss.
- High accuracy is great... but when they have the 500 pt bonus... it's pretty hard NOT to hit for min dam, when you do hit. Tested on 2 Jedi, one 220k, other 226k, a bonus of 40 acc points (crispic) does increases my damage by 15-16 pts per shot.
-Saber armor break vs root/snare (kiting in general) - They make my armor worthless, but I stay out of range a lot, seems mostly balanced, until I fight a MDef/MLS, and only a very few of my Roots stick (stick or not they still have a huge timer) KD or root on me, plus saber armor break, I heal and hope to stay alive.
Disclaimer.
I am a moderatly successfull BHer on shadowfire. I'm not saying I solo Knights all the time, but I get the bills paid with the first jedi I can find from 40-226k (so not that big a deal about pub 20 for me). However, some templates are MUCH more powerfull than others in the Jedi world. Some I have to wonder if they are only 1.5 times as powerfull, others (probably crafter/dancer jedi) I wonder if they are worth an eve 1 to 1 ratio.
BTW, Yes, I have a grocery cart for all my foods (the right ones... not ones that only last half the fight), stim Ds, Ruby bliel, badd a$$ scatter, and the best Pistols template I can create that is specifically geared toward Jedi, I have 8k resist armor, and I stalk my Jedi so that many times they tell me "where the hell did you come from?" So, I don't need any noob remarks. I am not complaining. Just sharing a few pieces of experience... and I hope they help.
ilponn wrote:
it is a free country i can write and say what i want with out percecussion.sorry about the spelling you school teacher out there
- I'm sure there are no drums playing while you write.
- If you mean reprecussion, your completely wrong. These forums are private property, meaning you do not have the right to say whatever you want.
- Some of us aren't school teachers, but would like to keep our eyes.
Speaking asa swordsman-hybrid. Yes I'm hard to kill. No I'm not impossible to kill, as 1 BH has already proven. What differentiated him from the others though, is that I didn't see him coming from a mile away, that he knewexactly what he was doing and for once actually surprised me.
Same here. I'm TK/Fencer and I have Jedi healing. I don't do a great deal of damage, but with COB on, i'm veryhard to kill. I haven't lost a duel to a ranged character since the CU. But still, I got killed by a BH, and very easily. Why? Because I was swarmed by bols and pikets and I never saw him coming. He chose the perfect moment to strike. Simple as that.