Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: (TANKS)jedi + dabbler = unkillable

ObiQuixote
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:25 pm
#14

If you look at the combat log above I missed 4 out of 6 shots. There were more misses above and below. That’s with 320 natural accuracy and deuterium (sp?) bringing me over 500 accuracy. This was from very short battle attacking a jedi who just finished a duel in Theed.

Also notice in the span of 9 seconds (19:56-20:05) I took 6247 damage and died quickly after that log ended despite back to back stims for 2500.

While hunting the overt in Theed types I've dispatched a few full templates in fair fights, but there are quite a few like what the OP encountered that just flat out destroy BH's quick.

It may be that the OP isn't the noob here. It could be the jedi, because they haven't learned to tear a BH up as quickly as can be done since the 19 damage increase.

OhBuggah
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:43 pm
#15






ObiQuixote wrote:
Stasis > armor break > KD > power hit > leg hit

Has hit me for a combined total 2.3k a couple of times. I don't have the armor break slice and that would help, but I hear that's bugged on test and no one seems quite sure where to get the components for that slice anyways. That kind of damage requires a healer template or a first strike on an afk jedi to have a chance.

And there are some jedi that you can hit pretty hard. But there are also quite a few that I can go at with 530-1120 ALR and 500 accuracy and get results similar to the OP. Miss miss 400 damage critical.


Combat Log

check that log. Couple of times I'm getting hit once a second for 800 or so. 1300 hit in there as well.





With the Publish 19 changes, of course you need healer in your template. Are you seriously coming here crying about losing because you don't even have Novice Medic? Because of the Publish 19 changes, the only time a BH shouldn't have Novice Medic in his template is when he's going up against a Jedi who doesn't have any healing in his template either. Guess what? EVERY Jedi has Jedi Healing in his template. If they have it, adapt and get it too. With Novice Medic you can heal for 1000-1100 every few seconds with +25 Healing Efficiency threads.


BTW, if you find yourself with armor break on you getting hit for 800 every second, eat a steak. I agree that MLS/MD Jedi with exploited out-of-balance pre-CU sabers and flawless pearls hit hard, but you're just going to have to adapt.
ilponn
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:46 pm
#16

ffs sake read the tread it was a test you morons jesus



Easytwo - Elder armoursmith / doctor and also elder WS/BH/MM
Easythree - NGE noob with lots haha

The Ayi's. TOo many to list you know them or you dont.

Retired
easy-
Bob-the-bh
OhBuggah
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:46 pm
#17






ilponn wrote:


also if they see you on the radar and know your a mbh where is the frist strike the dev say makes us equal to a finished temp,







The first strike advantage that they talk about is us choosing when to start the fight -- meaning, we have a huge advantage when we start a fight while he's tanking a DJM, or down to half force from dueling in front of Theed Starport.


I don't understand why bounty hunters believe that the first strike ability means that we should win a fight against a buffed, fully rested, full template Jedi standing around Theed waiting for PvP.


Be smart. Be sneaky. Don't expect to win if you're unbuffed and the Jedi is fully doctor buffed/food buffed/rested waiting for PvP -- I don't.
Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:48 pm
#18

IF Jedi + dabbler = unkillable then


abs(dead non-templated Jedi) = 0


Since abs(dead non-templated Jedi) != 0 then


Jedi + dabbler <> unkillable.




Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum
OhBuggah
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:49 pm
#19






ilponn wrote:
ffs sake read the tread it was a test you morons jesus





Well it was a flawed test because you're not testing it within the proper testbed environment, thus your conclusion in the message subject is incorrect.


To win against the template you mentioned, you have to execute the attack flawlessly, while the Jedi has to make a few mistakes -- as it should be. If the Jedi makes no mistakes, then you should be toast -- always. If you make just one mistake, then you should be toast -- always.


ilponn
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:55 pm
#20

lol what if they never go out kill djm or kryats or what ever, if they see us on the radar they disapper or load of there friend rush in to help come on think about,

if we have frist strike like you said it might take weeks to find the right moment ,this is not fun ,this is boring as hell

and even if they are at half force and halflife we still cant get them because we cant hit them for any damage when they have the macros running .


with the power they got now they jusy fr2 towards you kd from 35 meters and then you die just after that because snare does not stick or you miss or they block and with all that put together it is like having 85% saber block back again.



to the noobs this was a test again



Easytwo - Elder armoursmith / doctor and also elder WS/BH/MM
Easythree - NGE noob with lots haha

The Ayi's. TOo many to list you know them or you dont.

Retired
easy-
Bob-the-bh
Quiet420
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:57 pm
#21


you think grinding up lost experience is fun?


mission payouts aren't worth it


your in it for one oftwo, or possibly tworeasons:


1)a challenge (yay BH's who are in it for the thrill)


2)griefing (I hope someone runs over your favorite pet, with a bus, several times, then rings your doorbell to show you....and while your crying...kicks you in the nads)


Message Edited by Quiet420 on 07-18-2005 06:59 PM

TheN3W
Mon Jul 18, 2005 3:58 pm
#22






ilponn wrote:
i had a fight with a jedi im maxed out on tapes and food and buffs so is he and we fight ,this is a test to see if they are 1.5 stronger.
all he did was stand there and i fired at him for 5 minuts and still could not get his health to 3/4 then we started hot each other.

and all i say is we are not ive got the best weapons the best food best armour ,hes got 4440 def and the rest hes a dabbler.and still he has 3000 health,so no double master for jedi to get 3000 health ,

i was hiting him for 300 with critical shot when it landed i fired 10 shot 2 hit 3 blocked 5 missed so this is like 85% saber block

and he hit me for 900 damage with a crap saber 4 hits im dead and they want us to hunt solo


soe you are a joke to me cos you a$$ lick the jedi so much you think they are the payers of the game we all play and pay

i thought you was balanceing the game not nerf everone and make there good weapons crap ,i had 500 mind fire rifle with a 900 max dam laser carbine pre cu i had to scrap them as they was useless.


all the creditS and time ive put in to mbh to get what ive got i could have unlocked 3 jedi chars but i never like the jedi profession.


jedi whine oh it is a long grind not half as long ,as a mbh to get all his equiment just to hunt jedi ,and i still have not got a jetpack or mando armour but i think in the devs eyes jedi need it for them ????


if the devs cant fix the rest of the professions soon and mbh there will be no one to hunt jedi or play anyother profession

i say delete the hole game and never make a new one, in my eyes your the worst game developers in the world

who made this game a 10 year old jedi fanboy ??



Lol.. greatest, math, ever.




000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

-=Sexy Puppy Extraordinaire and Official Bothan of Flurry=-
DarkJedi49
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:01 pm
#23







ilponn wrote:
this is not fun ,this is boring as hell





If this is not fun and boring as hell, then why do you continue to play?

ilponn
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:01 pm
#24

???? so if i miss which every bh does 4-10 shot miss we have six shot 3 gets blocked that is 3 shots root kd snare
- the snare as this does not work against jedi for some reason,

which is 2 shots, root and kd wow great odds dont you think to kill a jedi with 2-4 shot out of 10,the root is on a timer


to all mbh never hunt jedi again let them have the game i want balance.


there is no frist strike in the field at the moment because they see you before we reach them and they are ready for you.???????



Easytwo - Elder armoursmith / doctor and also elder WS/BH/MM
Easythree - NGE noob with lots haha

The Ayi's. TOo many to list you know them or you dont.

Retired
easy-
Bob-the-bh
TheN3W
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:04 pm
#25






ilponn wrote:
???? so if i miss which every bh does 4-10 shot miss we have six shot 3 gets blocked that is 3 shots root kd snare
- the snare as this does not work against jedi for some reason,

which is 2 shots, root and kd wow great odds dont you think to kill a jedi with 2-4 shot out of 10,the root is on a timer


to all mbh never hunt jedi again let them have the game i want balance.


there is no frist strike in the field at the moment because they see you before we reach them and they are ready for you.???????




If you're missing that much, your accuracy is simply terrible.



000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

-=Sexy Puppy Extraordinaire and Official Bothan of Flurry=-
STLpMpNu
Mon Jul 18, 2005 4:05 pm
#26






ilponn wrote:
lol what if they never go out kill djm or kryats or what ever, if they see us on the radar they disapper or load of there friend rush in to help come on think about,

if we have frist strike like you said it might take weeks to find the right moment ,this is not fun ,this is boring as hell

and even if they are at half force and halflife we still cant get them because we cant hit them for any damage when they have the macros running .


with the power they got now they jusy fr2 towards you kd from 35 meters and then you die just after that because snare does not stick or you miss or they block and with all that put together it is like having 85% saber block back again.



to the noobs this was a test again



Sounds like someone needs to find a new proffesion




NoS Mall-Dragons Hold-Corellia
NoS Chef Vendor -1941 -4546
Page 2 of 5