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Thread: Went to the Jedi 'exploit' spot yesterday (small story)

isoloAncientKrayts
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:20 am
#27






MrDoppa wrote:

i dont know why this is so funny. those that fear you run. those that don't put their foots in your arses. simple logic. not to generalize, but a good number of you only take missions you KNOW you will win. if they know you will win, then they will run. Ill admit using the los is wrong. so i learned to pvp. I don't use it. But last night a reb showed up in my city while I was adjusting my inventory right outside of my house. I ran inside. I may have been able to beat him. I didn't feel too lucky. so i hid. but please don't act like your big and bad. do full temps put up houses and run into the los when you arrive. then you'll know your a bad mother "shut yo mouth".


oh yeah. i read all the forums that pertain to the areas of the game that Im interested in.




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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:20 am
#28






Isamu-alva wrote:




Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





KurttHalcyon wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't AFK grinding against the rules??? So, no, not an exploit. Just plain and simple cheating. [Flat out incorrect. Entertainers have ground AFK since the dawn of time. Many people ground out healing exp via a macro pre-CU.]


Also, correct me if I'm wrong again, but how many posts do you see on the Jedi forum asking how to AFK grind??? [I've seen at least one. See below]


That's right, none. And why??? Because its cheating, and if your caught telling people how to cheat, its banland for you. [No, the reason why is it gets laughed out of the forums]


Camping one spot to grind is one thing, and not really an exploit at that, just sad. AFK grinding on the other hand is against the TOS tbh. [PROOF please.]











AFK grinding is not an exploit....

HOWEVER...

AFK Grinding on a known LOS bugged spot where you are practically invulnerable because of that bug IS an exploit.

An exploit is defined as using a game bug diliberately and knowingly to gain an advantage / skill / credits etc.

Message Edited by Isamu-alva on 07-08-2005 05:14 PM





I'm with you. An example would be panthers at the Lost Village of Durbin.


However, the spot on the bridge doesn't qualify. If you're in the invulnerable spot, you can't attack because you can't see your target anymore than it can see you. There's similar spots in Shadowed Lands and they're just plain annoying because even if you WANT to attack....you cannot.





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Isamu-alva
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:22 am
#29



OorabishKotor wrote:

K this post is retarded.... Jedi are supposed to hide right... and people complain every time they see one... and now when jedi go to a planet where they can be hidden and feel safe for alittle while people have to complain about that? when yu go to places that have things spawn for you to kill there should be nothing wrong with using that spot... i personaly dont use the ryyatt trail cause it is not safe. and when a jedi tryies to run off and hide... can you really blame them? Im sure any one would run for cover if things where blowing up all around you and your life is in danger ( in RL) so why not try and stay alive in game?... i hate when people complain and i hate talking about this stuff... makes me wonder why no one is ever happy with what is given to them? they always want more and to be better then every one else .......................... any way....

bye




Correct me if I'm wrong but since when was waving your sabre about on a bridge where you can be seen by practically the whole planet from 500m away considered hiding?

8 Jedi in my guild and they all grinded the hard way, at least 3 of them did not make it on to the terms, AT ALL, until they'd become full templates, now THAT's hiding.

Jedi like that I respect, all the others are just credits in my bank account.





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Isamu-alva
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:26 am
#30



Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:


Isamu-alva wrote:

Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:


KurttHalcyon wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't AFK grinding against the rules??? So, no, not an exploit. Just plain and simple cheating. [Flat out incorrect. Entertainers have ground AFK since the dawn of time. Many people ground out healing exp via a macro pre-CU.]
Also, correct me if I'm wrong again, but how many posts do you see on the Jedi forum asking how to AFK grind??? [I've seen at least one. See below]
That's right, none. And why??? Because its cheating, and if your caught telling people how to cheat, its banland for you. [No, the reason why is it gets laughed out of the forums]
Camping one spot to grind is one thing, and not really an exploit at that, just sad. AFK grinding on the other hand is against the TOS tbh. [PROOF please.]







AFK grinding is not an exploit....

HOWEVER...

AFK Grinding on a known LOS bugged spot where you are practically invulnerable because of that bug IS an exploit.

An exploit is defined as using a game bug diliberately and knowingly to gain an advantage / skill / credits etc.

Message Edited by Isamu-alva on 07-08-2005 05:14 PM



I'm with you. An example would be panthers at the Lost Village of Durbin.

However, the spot on the bridge doesn't qualify. If you're in the invulnerable spot, you can't attack because you can't see your target anymore than it can see you. There's similar spots in Shadowed Lands and they're just plain annoying because even if you WANT to attack....you cannot.




Yes but if a jedi runs to that spot when a BH attacks it effectively makes him invulnerable to attack from the BH, ok so the jedi cant fight back but that's not the point, the jedi doesnt want to fight back he just wants to stop the BH from being able to attack, that's how it becomes an exploit.





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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:33 am
#31






Isamu-alva wrote:





Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





Isamu-alva wrote:




Leatherneck_of_Alderaan wrote:





KurttHalcyon wrote:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't AFK grinding against the rules??? So, no, not an exploit. Just plain and simple cheating. [Flat out incorrect. Entertainers have ground AFK since the dawn of time. Many people ground out healing exp via a macro pre-CU.]


Also, correct me if I'm wrong again, but how many posts do you see on the Jedi forum asking how to AFK grind??? [I've seen at least one. See below]


That's right, none. And why??? Because its cheating, and if your caught telling people how to cheat, its banland for you. [No, the reason why is it gets laughed out of the forums]


Camping one spot to grind is one thing, and not really an exploit at that, just sad. AFK grinding on the other hand is against the TOS tbh. [PROOF please.]











AFK grinding is not an exploit....

HOWEVER...

AFK Grinding on a known LOS bugged spot where you are practically invulnerable because of that bug IS an exploit.

An exploit is defined as using a game bug diliberately and knowingly to gain an advantage / skill / credits etc.

Message Edited by Isamu-alva on 07-08-2005 05:14 PM





I'm with you. An example would be panthers at the Lost Village of Durbin.


However, the spot on the bridge doesn't qualify. If you're in the invulnerable spot, you can't attack because you can't see your target anymore than it can see you. There's similar spots in Shadowed Lands and they're just plain annoying because even if you WANT to attack....you cannot.







Yes but if a jedi runs to that spot when a BH attacks it effectively makes him invulnerable to attack from the BH, ok so the jedi cant fight back but that's not the point, the jedi doesnt want to fight back he just wants to stop the BH from being able to attack, that's how it becomes an exploit.




You're right. But if he runs to the spot, he's clearly not AFK. So that has nothing to do with the subject of AFK grinding.


Hell, it's the AFK grinders that AREN'T cheating. They're not capable of cheating since they can't move.




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Jargal
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:37 am
#32

Good call.


A lookout at the LOS exploits spot reports to a BH at the Kadaara BH terminal.


Then theBHshouts out the list of names for all other BHs at the terminals, so they will know who's camping there.


After that is only to form groups and head over there for some fun!





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yurylightmist
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:40 am
#33

Hmm, i seem to remember a few Bh using this "cheat" to wait and heal up. Works both ways.


and yes it should be fixed. Fight or run. thats the jedi way. seems to be run more now tho.


Jargal
Fri Jul 08, 2005 9:42 am
#34

Good call!


A lookout at the LOS Kashyyyk exploit spawn reports the current jedis at the spot to a BHin Kadaara.


The BH shouts out the list of current names to the other BHs at the terminals.


All BHs searches the terms for the names and forms hitsquads and heads to Kashyyyk to kill the cheaters!



Good Hunting!



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MMC7
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:05 am
#35

This talk of courage in a video game is lunacy. I am frustrated absolutely when Jedi run to safe haven when attacked. I'm afraid calling them names is not going to change their behavior. Self preservation is very strong in those with something to lose. All Jedi and bounty hunter drama aside. Calling someone a coward for actions in an online video game is absurd. And rationalizing that "actions are actions are actions" is empty and without merit. Anyone who belives these things to be true should imediately stop playing this and all other games and get back into real life.


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Danathal
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:17 am
#36






TatterSalad wrote:





Tiberious_Lemac wrote:


I was doing the Ryatt Trail quests with some pals, getting my proton carb, etc...


I had never been there before so it was interesting to check it all out, it was a good time. We came upon the exploit spot we were amazed at what we saw. There must have been 20 jedi in a tight cluster fighting 2 webweavers. As soon as the jedi spotted us about half of them bolted for the bridge like cowards. We continued on to kill wild wookies.


At the bridge I went to spatial chat and said "so this is where the Jedi cheat". This offended of few of them. They immediatly corrected me and stated this is where they "hunt". I corrected him, i pointed out that they hide from BH here and use exploits to run like sissies.


So now fora jedi to hunt they must travel across the galaxy to a backwater planet to a remote location instead of their local mission terminal.



A call to all BH. Send a lookout to the exploit site, get the missions, go there and kill.NeXuS waits bu the trail entrance (a solid tactic for patient BH). They must learn that there is no safe place.






This cracks me up that you call it an exploit. Because someone grinds AFK or not AFK and you can't get to them or can't catch them you automatically call it an exploit. You BH's are killing my sides, you are playing a prof. that takes a week at most to master (would be less, but have the invest. column that sucks to grind) and you think you should own all other profs. in the game. Thats just funny.




Jedi can go from initiate to full template in 10 days on the Ryatt Trail. Don't talk to me about time spent to master.





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Xaril
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:25 am
#37

I think if you've taken a mission on a Jedi fairly recently thats where they are. I just grab a mission go there and after the fight right down the names of the others and spend the 20 minutes to pull there missions and go back. No wasting the droids or my time to get a bio sig I just fly back. (bright side to everything).


I have also ran into marks that use the exploit and one player in particular I have kept on my buddy list so that I can test my theory. He tells me that "he doesn't do bh's" as he stands in the explot and his buddies send me tells to stop"picking on"a $150,000 bounty Jedi.... My theory is that by next week when this guy is full template I will take his bounty again, anyone want to bet on the fact he'll fight me then?


People want the ultimate reward with no penalty, work or sacrifice. Sadly though that's not how the profession was made. It's SUPPOSED TO BE HARD. I always send a tell win or lose to the person who fights me straight up to tell them thank you for being honorable. Because in the end it's just a game, it's supposed to be fun.


Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:29 am
#38






Danathal wrote:





TatterSalad wrote:





Tiberious_Lemac wrote:


I was doing the Ryatt Trail quests with some pals, getting my proton carb, etc...


I had never been there before so it was interesting to check it all out, it was a good time. We came upon the exploit spot we were amazed at what we saw. There must have been 20 jedi in a tight cluster fighting 2 webweavers. As soon as the jedi spotted us about half of them bolted for the bridge like cowards. We continued on to kill wild wookies.


At the bridge I went to spatial chat and said "so this is where the Jedi cheat". This offended of few of them. They immediatly corrected me and stated this is where they "hunt". I corrected him, i pointed out that they hide from BH here and use exploits to run like sissies.


So now fora jedi to hunt they must travel across the galaxy to a backwater planet to a remote location instead of their local mission terminal.



A call to all BH. Send a lookout to the exploit site, get the missions, go there and kill.NeXuS waits bu the trail entrance (a solid tactic for patient BH). They must learn that there is no safe place.






This cracks me up that you call it an exploit. Because someone grinds AFK or not AFK and you can't get to them or can't catch them you automatically call it an exploit. You BH's are killing my sides, you are playing a prof. that takes a week at most to master (would be less, but have the invest. column that sucks to grind) and you think you should own all other profs. in the game. Thats just funny.




Jedi can go from initiate to full template in 10 days on the Ryatt Trail. Don't talk to me about time spent to master.







How long does it take to get to Jedi initiate again?


From day of creation to MBH...outside estimate 2 weeks. It's been done faster, but that's not a bad number.


Drom day of creation to completed Jedi, how long is it?





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Pootian
Fri Jul 08, 2005 10:31 am
#39

No hunting in an area that is hard for BH to find is just smart. But that being said...I had one Jedi that I hunted yesterday in the Ryatt trail that WAS exploiting. They were at the little wild wookie village spot in the webweaver section of the trail, and I arrive while they are in the midst of fighting, well I wait for my mark to engage in combat and attack, then I open fire. Right away he runs for it, i use the typical root and KD to slow him down, but eventually he makes it to the start of the path (right at the entrance to the little wookie village) and sits there...--CANT SEE TARGET-- I move right next to him, --CANT SEE TARGET--.

SO not only can jedi hunt in a place where you cant find them with droids. They also have a built in safe zone where they can run to so they can rest up and regain their force.

THIS IS AN EXPLOIT!!!



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