Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!
Whacked wrote:
GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.
until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.
funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.
oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.
QFE
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Jargal wrote:
Again...learn to be a jedi...and you should have no problems with intruders. You went jedi of free will. Thats your 14.99. You accepted to be hunted.
You might actually also learn how to pvp..then you should not need that 5k damage detection device at your door.
The only reason you want to be AFK in your house is to annoy BHs. Thats not a good reason. You can as well logoff if your not at home playing.
Are you just dense or cant you see the sarcasm in what I said.
Let me spell it out. Just because someone doesnt conform to your content, get over it. Yes SOE made the jedi your content, but that doesnt mean we have to oblige you. If I wish to sit in my house making every bh who comes along mad, that is my choice and guess what, MY content. I get amusement out of watching pitiful woeful bh such as yourself crying because we are ruining your gameplay. Yes I do this to annoy you, and it appears to be working. My job is now fulfilled and I can laugh away. Back before anyone knew my alts name, I use to get my main char online and actually go out and ebb it on. It was quite fun.
You are right, I could log off, but why should I. You and most other people dont do so all the time, so why should I have to conform to some sense of gameplay just because you say so? When SOE does away with afk macro's, then sure I will log off, til then I have as much right to do afk online macroes, much as you do.
Oh yea, im quite capable of PvPing, but I do so on my terms, not anyone elses. When I became jedi, your right I did agree to be hunted, but no one said I had to make your hunt a success. So get over it. If you can not deal with this, then respec to another class and then you dont have to deal with it.
I know you do mate, see you in theed all the time. And I agree with you, why should we make it easy? If we can do it on our terms, then isnt that the point to a combat?
trajen2 wrote:
I PvP everynight....but will deny PvP to any BH just out of spite
freedomwarrior wrote:
Oh yea, im quite capable of PvPing, but I do so on my terms, not anyone elses. When I became jedi, your right I did agree to be hunted, but no one said I had to make your hunt a success. So get over it. If you can not deal with this, then respec to another class and then you dont have to deal with it.
You are basically saying jedi should not be allowed to escape. Why?
BH have NOTHING to lose in the fight. On the other hand they have the chance to earn up to 226k creds for a victory.
Jedi lose xp and time if they lose the battle. On the other hand we gain NOTHING for killing the attacking BH.
Now maybe a full template jedi that knows what he is doing likes to stay and fight of an attacker but, what about those of us that are still in the weak phase of building our temps? And I DO try to stay off the terms as much as I can. I never pull out my saber or use force skills in cities, I refuse to deul in public and when grinding, I always look out for npc's. But its inevitable that npc's will spawn onme while grinding or something unexpected to give vis to me.
You are hunters and sometimesyour prey escapes. Deal with it or drop MBH.
Jargal wrote:
The first thing is househiding. Theres not a single good thing coming out of this feature, only BH annoyance. This even increases the BH-jedi hate. Jedi doesnt get a single xp or any other benefits other than annoying all BHs coming to a house where a jedi sits AFK for hours and hours.
A BH lockpick, made bysmugglers would let the BH inside the house after a 30 sec timer and an possible alarm setting off. This would give the jedi a fair amount of time to prepare for the fight and the BH wouldnt have an other gamebreaking mission. A fair fight for both.
The second is a natural result of the thing above. The spacehiding. If we fix househiding then spacehiding would be fixed at the same time. BH should be able to fire at a jedis ship and force it to emergencyland on the closest planet if 'blow up'. Of course the jedi should have the possibility to jump to hyperspace when attacked to get away. When the jedi has crashlanded on the closest planet, the BH should be able to track him there as usual.
The simpler and fairer fix for house sitting would be to remove all afk play. Jedi who areactually playing the gameshould be allowed a place to be safe from a hunter, but not at the needless expense of the BHsgaming fun. If your going to be afk for more than a few min, logout or get logged out. When your actually ready to play the game, come on back.
As for the spacehiding, BHs should be able to attack or dock with any ship carrying a wanted Jedi. Fighters would just need to be destroyed, but mutli-passenger ships would need to beboarded (after you incap anything larger than a yacht) for a face to face fight.
In my mind, Jedi hiding in a house is justified.It’s our job to hunt down and terminate any Jedi that we have a mission on.However, it’s NOT the Jedi’s job to fight with us anytime or anyplace.Sure we have a constant ability to attack any Jedi we have a mission at any time, but I think the system is currently bordering on griefing, and here’s why…
He ran for over 2 hours, and kept his mission, constantly meeting up with him on different planets, in different cities, etc.Everytime he would bolt at the first opportunity.He could have stood his ground and fought, he chose not to.It’s his right to run, to avoid PvP.I had planned to keep this Jedi’s mission for as long as it took to take him down, or until the 3 day timer was up.
I saw his name pop up on my friendlist and resumed the hunt.For another hour I chased him across 3 planets and forced him offline again, this time, for the night.(it was 2am, and I assumed he would not be on).
He finally logged in a few hours later, and again I resumed the hunt.This time he stood his ground and I put him down.Mission complete.
I know, I know… if they don’t want BH attacks they either shouldn’t get a Jedi and/or shouldn’t gain visibility.
However, most BH’s won’t wait it out, they simply drop the mission and do other things out of frustration.I chose to invest 2 days into hunting this Jedi down, and I would have been disappointed had I not completed the contract, but that’s all part of the game to me.Win some, lose some.
I’m all for being able to hunt in space, since space is a key element of the Star Wars universe, and it would make for some added fun in the game.However, with the current space system, I seriously doubt that it would be possible.Things would have to change.I would be all far chasing a Jedi to a starport, launching and releasing a tracker into space to find his ship, then hypering into that system to blast them to pieces.In my vision, a kill in space would equal a kill on the ground, and it would instantly end the mission with either a complete or a failure depending on who met their end.As stated though, the system would have to change where a master pilot cannot kill another player ship in 4-5 hits (less if the other is not a master).The ground mechanics with PvP damage output are roughly 1/3 that of PvE.In space, it seems like it’s 100 PvP vs PvE.I would suggest the PvP space damage output be lowered to around 1/3 or even ¼ to make it more “fair”
This is spoken from a Non-Jedi owning Bounty Hunter, by the way.I have no Jedi, nor do I want one.
Torqued wrote:
Oh, and on a side note. The space hunting thing I do kinda like. There should be some kind of TEF on the jedi in space so that they can be attacked by the BH if he is a pilot.
No reason you shouldnt be able to give chase in a ship.
Jargal wrote:
removing xp loss isnt the solution. You all knew what you were getting into when you, of free will, went jedi. Instead jedi should learn to stay off the terms and understand that jedi is a hermit, solo profession. Or accept the consequeses of thier behavior.
Next plz?
This is a multiplayer game - next plz?
I find it pretty amusing that your thread is entitled 'Stop Jedi gamebreaking hiding!' and then you promptly turn around and tell Jedi to...... uh.......... hide.
Drop the mission, move on - just like the rest of us.
Sundal wrote:
silversaber wrote:
If being annoyed and frustratedis the ONLY penalty BH's have to face in hunting a Jedi, then they are getting off easy.
What does that even mean?
Because some Jedi and some BH act like children doesnt mean the game should turn into crap for others. Some Jedi, not all,do this purely to provoke BH.
It would be like if BH's came by, knocked you down, then ran off. Then every 15 minutes came back and did the same thing. It's within the scope of the game. But would be damn annoying, and clearly done to piss off the otherside.
As a game company, it's SOE job to disfuse this kind of anomosity. Good idea give the Jedi a choice as to if they even appear on the BH terminals and that would fix your problem!
Oh no Jedi to hunt now perhaps ROFL
As for the spacehiding, BHs should be able to attack or dock with any ship carrying a wanted Jedi. Fighters would just need to be destroyed, but mutli-passenger ships would need to beboarded (after you incap anything larger than a yacht) for a face to face fight.
maybe BHs should get (and only BHs) trasnporter beams to transport the jedi from the turret control and onto some sandy planet where they must duel to the death . . .oh wait... wrong Sci fi
Dasha1121 wrote:
As for the spacehiding, BHs should be able to attack or dock with any ship carrying a wanted Jedi. Fighters would just need to be destroyed, but mutli-passenger ships would need to beboarded (after you incap anything larger than a yacht) for a face to face fight.
I know some Jedi that are 1111 or less in space. If there up grinding in there ship and the BH is an ACe its a pretty much 1 shot kill. Space depends not only on your skills but your equpment. I dont necessarilly agree with the boarding of ones ship. Once again you are forcing them into combat. and what if there on someone elses ship. Does it become attackable. Can they fight back or have to accept you coming onto there ship to get their friend. What if that person is in the gun turret how do you get them out of there.
There is just to many variables to consider. .I dont think its fair that someone who is full templated but 1111 should have to rely on there piloting skills. nor any jedi for that matter.
I would considered a forced landing idea. the ship takes so much damage and is forced to land at the main starport of whichever system you are in theres a tef that disables you from launching.