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Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!

Dasha1121
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:46 am
#40











maybe BHs should get (and only BHs) trasnporter beams to transport the jedi from the turret control and onto some sandy planet where they must duel to the death . . .oh wait... wrong Sci fi





Which one is that Dune?? hehe



Well I just pulled it off the top of my head im not opposed to BH searching us out in space but I dont think that the fight should depend on the skills and abilities of the pilot.







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Sundal
Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:57 am
#41






NoviceRangerFlurry wrote:

As a game company, it's SOE job to disfuse this kind of anomosity. Good idea give the Jedi a choice as to if they even appear on the BH terminals and that would fix your problem!


Oh no Jedi to hunt now perhaps ROFL







Uh, most Jedi do a good job at not appearing on the terminals. Only the people that seriously want to be there, are on there, and in extreme cases sometimes a Jedi might accidently get themselves on the terminals. Jedi do have a choice, it's whether or not they put forth the effort.


But that's not even the point. The point is some Jedi specifically hide afk(while they sleep)to annoy Bh's. A jedi in this very post admitted as much. The best solution is to not have them appear on the terminals after a set time. 30 mins inside private structure and you're considered offline.


marc-anthony
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:02 pm
#42

If Cloak is an ALPHA strike ability (and I am taking this to mean FIRST strike) perhaps it should only be able to be used as a FIRST STRIKE, IE: Not useable while in combat, only to initiate combat or out of combat. In other words, combat breaks cloak, but it still allows the Jedi their Alpha Strike.

IMO this is the change that will balance a completely unbalanced ability.

And Jedi will still be happy they can stay cloaked by the recruiters and gank the hell out of Armorsmiths trying to buy schematics.



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Nastypope
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:16 pm
#43






Jargal wrote:

removing xp loss isnt the solution. You all knew what you were getting into when you, of free will, went jedi. Instead jedi should learn to stay off the terms and understand that jedi is a hermit, solo profession. Or accept the consequeses of thier behavior.


Next plz?







Which is why we stay in our houses


Next Plz?





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Sundal
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:28 pm
#44







Your so right, I did admit to it. Whole Heartedly. Now ask me why I do it. Most who have come for me would have told you I would fight. Ive even come out of my house to fight em. Then one day I had a group of 10 come for me. Thats cool, the bh seemed nice, sent me a tell saying hey, come out, my group wont attack, we can do this one on one. I said sure, no worries, as long as it isnt 10 on 1, I can deal. So we start fighting and all is going decent, then I start to terminate the guy, had him knocked out and the next thing I know, I have 9 other guys attacking me.


It was at this point that I realized, that it was about there content, and nothing more. So I decided to make it my content to annoy them as much as they annoy me with the tells. So just deal with it and move on.


And no, the 30 minute log out wouldnt work, because there are merchants who macro online to advertise their wares. You can not single out 1 class or profession just because they are ruining your so called content.


1 last thing, 99.9% if the time when im macroing stay online with my jedi, you will find me on with my alt. So in essence im not afk.







And you dont think your actions makes you immature in the least? Those BH's were bad, but your solution is to resort to annoying them? You're like a child.


And I did not say to log you out. I said after 30 minsthe game will consider you offline, meaning you will not appear on the terminals. Sorry for the confusion, poor wording on my part.


After that point you can stay online, afk, doing whatever. It would letvalid Jedi be able to do what they need to afk, while keeping the spiteful Jedi from purposefully provoking BH's.

built2shred
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:30 pm
#45

If Cloak is an ALPHA strike ability (and I am taking this to mean FIRST strike) perhaps it should only be able to be used as a FIRST STRIKE, IE: Not useable while in combat, only to initiate combat or out of combat. In other words, combat breaks cloak, but it still allows the Jedi their Alpha Strike.

IMO this is the change that will balance a completely unbalanced ability.





It's suppose to be unbalanced between jedi and BH's. Jedi are suppose to have an edge over us BH's. The BH profession is for advance PvP'ers who want a challange, not for newbs to cry because they want to be as powerful as jedi but not have to grind it like the jedi (atleast the jedi pre-cu). I prefer that jedi are stronger then us, I like a challange. Sick of these kids who come in here with the game cheat attitude, """OhI can't get past this level (even tho i only tried once) so there for ill d/led cheats for the game to get around it """"


True you can't d/led cheats for this game, but you guys want the Dev's to nerf Jedi so you have the edge over them, same thing in my opinion.


primetime21
Mon Sep 19, 2005 1:43 pm
#46


Some points that need to be made to the OP about their ideas.






Theres no good in having house/space hiding...make jedis avalible for BHs to hunt now.


I can undersatand your frustration, but you need to also realize that players need to have a way to take a break from PvP. There are times when something unexpected happens while playing (phone call, knock on door, bathroom break). There are timeswhen you just need a break from PvP, space allowsyou to do this. Jedi have a TEF so that they are not allowed into houses once a battle starts. The fact that they are in the house shows 2 things - you didn't attack them fast enough, or they were already in the house when you got there. Either way you can't blame the Jedi. They pay for the right to play when and how they want, if they want to sit in their house its their perogative to do so.







removing xp loss isnt the solution. You all knew what you were getting into when you, of free will, went jedi. Instead jedi should learn to stay off the terms and understand that jedi is a hermit, solo profession.


I agree that removing xp is not the solution, as it would allow Jedi to get full temp faster. The solution would be to give the Jedi some reward for killing the BH, they would get the bounty instead of you, somehow make it so killing BH was the way they got their pearls, or give them a lightsaber pup.

The thing is that if you want them to stay off the terms and be hermits, then what are the BH going to hunt. You can't have it both ways.







Again...learn to be a jedi...and you should have no problems with intruders. You went jedi of free will. Thats your 14.99. You accepted to be hunted.

You might actually also learn how to pvp..then you should not need that 5k damage detection device at your door.

The only reason you want to be AFK in your house is to annoy BHs. Thats not a good reason. You can as well logoff if your not at home playing.


The player pays their 14.99 to access the game, the way they choose to play is up to the as long as it is within the rules. If after all their work to become Jedi, a player chooses to sit in their house all day and do nothing that is in the rules. Their is no way for you to know if they are sitting there or not, they could be sitting in their house /telling friends and using the game as a high graphics chat room for all you know.

The point is that Bounty Hunters have the option of when to start the fight, Jedi has the option of when to end it.


By the way I am not a Jedi, I am MBH and have been so since near the beginning. If I get a mission where the Jedi doesn't want to fight, and is able to get away to one of these places I drop it (as long as they or their friends don't anger me).




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Cendoth
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:02 pm
#47

This has been brought up time and again. You will NEVER get the house entry option. Your wasting your breath on that so let it die already. You are not more important to SOE then the jedi paying the same 14.99 a month and if we cant even have one place on the ground to chill and relax we might as well cancel our accounts. Don't think SOE is down with that and since you wouldnt have anymore targets maybe you should rethink your attitude towards it.


As to the space based hunting I will say it again for the 50th time. It is a twitch based system where jedi have no advantage over regular pilots. Why should we suffer a extra penalty in space? You are basically just wanting to deny us a aspect of the game because it takes away from your hunting time. To bad, its not gonna happen unless Jedi are granted extra abilities in space like force piloting etc... I dont see this happening but if they somehow did balance it so I could use adequate jedi abilities in space then I will gladly blast you into microscopic durasteel particles.


I declare this thread dead. NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXT



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Nexa1
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:28 pm
#48

Be interesting to see SOE just eliminate player bounties. Wonder what people would whine aobut then.



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GlargTheKelfn
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:44 pm
#49



Nexa1 wrote:
Be interesting to see SOE just eliminate player bounties. Wonder what people would whine aobut then.




i have a very strong feeling that is coming. either that, or making only sf jedi appear on the terms. either way, forced pvp will go away.




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sscottsci
Mon Sep 19, 2005 3:55 pm
#50



Just my 2 cents here, and I am also a Master Bounty Hunter, but I think that we should not need to have a bounty on a Jedi. What if the BH could attack any Jedi he came across and then go to a terminal to collect the bounty? This would be consistent with the time line since there are few Jedi, and the empire wants them gone. The Jedi that is out showing off should be available to anyone to kill. I know Jedi will not like this, and it is only my thought, but it seems in line with the game. You could even make them harder to kill as Jedi should be that are left after Order 66. We saw very few escape in Episode III, and there were only 2 by Episode 5 (Luke and Leia).


This might make it more fun for the BH that is complaining, tougher on all BH's with a mark, and then the Jedi that are out running around that showed themselves, would have to be more on guard. They still could go hide, but at least the BH's would have better hunting options instead of seeing a Jedi and then having to go to the terminals to try to get the mission.


Another nice thing to have might be the ability of a BH to get a replica lightsaber to show off to count as a kill, while the Jedi still gets to keep his lightsaber so it would only be a souvenir, and the Jedi could also get a replica of something to show the number of Bounty Hunters he has killed. Maybe the extra bragging rights, including the player name in the item, might keep more Jedi/BH pvp'ing. The saber hilts would be like Grievous in Episode 3 where he had a number in his robe.


Thoughts/Comments?


Message Edited by sscottsci on 09-19-2005 06:57 PM



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Mehhem
Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:08 pm
#51



GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.

until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.

funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.


oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.




Plus.... you don't even have to target jedi. Thats your choice.



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Mehhem
Mon Sep 19, 2005 4:11 pm
#52



Jargal wrote:

Again...learn to be a jedi...and you should have no problems with intruders. You went jedi of free will. Thats your 14.99. You accepted to be hunted.
You might actually also learn how to pvp..then you should not need that 5k damage detection device at your door.
The only reason you want to be AFK in your house is to annoy BHs. Thats not a good reason. You can as well logoff if your not at home playing.





Maybe they are actually chatting in guild chat. Ever think of that one? I'm not a jedi I'm a BH, but a jedi has to have some way to not be hunted. This and space is their two outs.



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