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Thread: Stop jedi gamebreaking hiding!

xkarvastorx
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:12 am
#14






Ulrek_Oden wrote:





Jargal wrote:

removing xp loss isnt the solution. You all knew what you were getting into when you, of free will, went jedi. Instead jedi should learn to stay off the terms and understand that jedi is a hermit, solo profession. Or accept the consequeses of thier behavior.


Next plz?









Just to counter this ( I am a MBH BTW) that same free will allows them to sit in a house....



wouldnt'sitting in the house be kinda hermit like? If a jedi runs into a house and locks it (which in my experience can no longer happen) that warrants a "you knew what you were getiing into" comment. If someone wants to sit in thier house and go through inventory or decorate or whatever, they should have that right.



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Doboleb
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:14 am
#15



Jargal wrote:

When I went BH (before publ 9) and jedi came up on the terms, we had names and rewards. Today it has changed, i cant pull a mission on a jedi i know is next to me anymore.

Therefore our circumstances has changed, and therefore jedis circumstances should also change to make a good compromise.

Keep it coming plz...





That just smacks of wanting it easy...




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Mars_Guo
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:16 am
#16






Jargal wrote:

i cant pull a mission on a jedi i know isnext to meanymore.






Lol, that says it all. End of thread





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Sundal
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:28 am
#17

Mmm, it's a problem. But I think the way the OP went about it is all wrong. I dont want to kill these guys in that fashion, I dont care if you Jedi go afk. I just dont want to have to think about them. Just like if a Jedi is offline he's off the terminals. If a Jedi is inside a private structure for over 30 mins, he should be removed from the terminals.


And it wouldnt be a problem if Jedi went afk because something came up, or if they logged in to chat to their friends only. The problem is when a group of Jedi, either in a guild or whatever, gets together and for the sole purpose of annoying BH's will go afk while they sleep. On a small server even a few jedi doing this will waste a lot of time for BH's. Getting the mission and waiting on the probe is close to 5 minutes right there.



silversaber
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:41 am
#18






Sundal wrote:

Mmm, it's a problem. But I think the way the OP went about it is all wrong. I dont want to kill these guys in that fashion, I dont care if you Jedi go afk. I just dont want to have to think about them. Just like if a Jedi is offline he's off the terminals. If a Jedi is inside a private structure for over 30 mins, he should be removed from the terminals.


And it wouldnt be a problem if Jedi went afk because something came up, or if they logged in to chat to their friends only. The problem is when a group of Jedi, either in a guild or whatever, gets together and for the sole purpose of annoying BH's will go afk while they sleep. On a small server even a few jedi doing this will waste a lot of time for BH's. Getting the mission and waiting on the probe is close to 5 minutes right there.








If being annoyed and frustratedis the ONLY penalty BH's have to face in hunting a Jedi, then they are getting off easy.
memnoku_xiaolong
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:47 am
#19

remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.

until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.

funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.


oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.
youve got a cheek to talk about noobs and whining mate.



as ive said several times part of becoming jedi is accepting you will be hunted and lose xp. this game is not meant to be overloaded with jedi. thats the point of the xp loss to keep the jedi population down. at this time in sw history jedi were hunted wherever they turned up. and that was rare in itself force users are shunned and persecuted. the imp blockade around dath is from the emperors fear of the force using witches of dath realising their potentiol. dont want to be hunted dont become a jedi.



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Gohma_Manovich
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:48 am
#20






Jargal wrote:

There's two thing that should have been adjusted long time ago, right after the BH terms got nerfed.


Since we BHs has accepted the fact that we cant know a thing about our marks when we go out for a hunt, jedi should have to accept two things, as a compromise.


The first thing is househiding. Theres not a single good thing coming out of this feature, only BH annoyance. This even increases the BH-jedi hate. Jedi doesnt get a single xp or any other benefits other than annoying all BHs coming to a house where a jedi sits AFK for hours and hours.

A BH lockpick, made bysmugglers would let the BH inside the house after a 30 sec timer and an possible alarm setting off. This would give the jedi a fair amount of time to prepare for the fight and the BH wouldnt have an other gamebreaking mission. A fair fight for both.


The second is a natural result of the thing above. The spacehiding. If we fix househiding then spacehiding would be fixed at the same time. BH should be able to fire at a jedis ship and force it to emergencyland on the closest planet if 'blow up'. Of course the jedi should have the possibility to jump to hyperspace when attacked to get away. When the jedi has crashlanded on the closest planet, the BH should be able to track him there as usual.



This two imporvments should make jedi more hunted of course, but being hunted of all the galaxy's BHs should be a nightmare. All online jedi that are wanted should be huntable. Theres no good in having house/space hiding...make jedis avalible for BHs to hunt now.


Today BHs spend hour after hours doing the same thing...ending up frustrated outside a jedis house while he is AFK dancing inside. That doesnt improve this games publicity.


I want to see a more alive jedi-BH pvp.





problem with taking it away is whilst xp loss is sdtill here jedi have no place to be afk and safe and logging out isnt always an option



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trajen2
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:54 am
#21

"Gamebreaking"??


Since when it is gamebreaking for me to be chatting with my buds...or crafting a new LS....or engaging in practice duels with my fellow jedi?


If I am busy doing something else, I am not going to stop to provide you entertainment





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Sundal
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:56 am
#22






silversaber wrote:
If being annoyed and frustratedis the ONLY penalty BH's have to face in hunting a Jedi, then they are getting off easy.





What does that even mean?


Because some Jedi and some BH act like children doesnt mean the game should turn into crap for others. Some Jedi, not all,do this purely to provoke BH.


It would be like if BH's came by, knocked you down, then ran off. Then every 15 minutes came back and did the same thing. It's within the scope of the game. But would be damn annoying, and clearly done to piss off the otherside.


As a game company, it's SOE job to disfuse this kind of anomosity.

Dasha1121
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:56 am
#23






problem with taking it away is whilst xp loss is sdtill here jedi have no place to be afk and safe and logging out isnt always an option





I tend to agree. Do you log out to go to the bathroom or get a bite to eat or something to drink. I'll agree that it is lame to be afk for hours upon hours on end. I have gone in my house afk thinking it was gonna be 10 min and wound up 2 hours. That happens.


How do you know they are hiding in space. I like to run black sun missions in space its a nice change to get away from the grind.


Jedi may have to put up with forced PVP and thats the acceptable risk we take. However Jedi are not your content and no where does it state we must stand and fight on your terms and times.





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trajen2
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:57 am
#24

I forgot to mention my favorite part of this post....the "crash landing" while in space...that's hilarious!


What happens when i'm in my Yacht? It has no guns . . . how do i fight back?





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Whacked
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:57 am
#25



GlargTheKelfn wrote:
remove xp loss and jedi will fight more often.

until then, deal with it. jedi are players just like you, who don't have to do anything you want them to.

funny how a jedi sitting in a house wasting your time is a problem, but setting a jedi back hours of gameplay is all good.


oh, i almost forgot...
cry more noob.



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SolaasD
Mon Sep 19, 2005 10:58 am
#26


Fighting a Bounty Hunter has NO Upside, you win you get nada, you lose you get negative xp. If a Jedi wants to hide then so be it, you have the right to Hunt them but not to make them fight you if they dont want to.


Either Remove XP loss, or make MBH lose something signifigant to keep Jedi Interested in Fighting BH'ers, Have Bounty Hunter's Upon Death Drop Usable Loot by a Jedi such as Flawless Crystals or Quality Pearls, or Credits.


Make it worth a Jedi's risk or time and you will see less Jedi Running Away or House Hiding.


You have the right to hunt a player Jedi on the Terminals, but a Jedi also has the right to not be your content if they so choose.



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