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Thread: Im tired of low or no investigation BH's getting good loot when we have to travel everywhere
DanoCollins wrote:
I have never looted a great CA like that off of any mark. Last time I checked, loot wasn't guaranteed to anyone. Keeping it random actually keeps it fair...and spreading it out also makes it fair.
WiseBobo wrote:
TashunkaSapa wrote:
WiseBobo wrote:
Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact.
What's "baseless" is your assumption that they'll get it right on this try, when they failed before.
Going by their track record, it's highly unlikely that they'll get it right, but very likely that they'll screw up something else unintentionally.
The only FACT about which you should concern yourself is that YOU are getting the loot that YOU are supposed to. Stop worrying about nerfing "the other guy".
The last time they screwed up something unintentionally, the community as a whole complained. I see the same exact thing happening if they start screwing around with what they shouldn't be, especially regarding how vocal this part of the forum is. I am NOT getting the loot that I am SUPPOSED to be getting. Do you want to trade the bugs I got off of a CL 82 with the two-handed LS speed +13 CA you got off a CL 72?
I didn't think so.Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:17 PM
Re-read the first page of this thread. A poster stated that a friend of his looted that CA, or something similar, I might have gotten the numbers switched around, off of a CL 72-73. Random is not fair because I have to face Elite Marks and Novice Bounty Hunters do not.
Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:24 PM
WiseBobo wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
I have never looted a great CA like that off of any mark. Last time I checked, loot wasn't guaranteed to anyone. Keeping it random actually keeps it fair...and spreading it out also makes it fair.
WiseBobo wrote:
TashunkaSapa wrote:
WiseBobo wrote:
Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact.
What's "baseless" is your assumption that they'll get it right on this try, when they failed before.
Going by their track record, it's highly unlikely that they'll get it right, but very likely that they'll screw up something else unintentionally.
The only FACT about which you should concern yourself is that YOU are getting the loot that YOU are supposed to. Stop worrying about nerfing "the other guy".
The last time they screwed up something unintentionally, the community as a whole complained. I see the same exact thing happening if they start screwing around with what they shouldn't be, especially regarding how vocal this part of the forum is. I am NOT getting the loot that I am SUPPOSED to be getting. Do you want to trade the bugs I got off of a CL 82 with the two-handed LS speed +13 CA you got off a CL 72?
I didn't think so.
Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:17 PM
Re-read the first page of this thread. A poster stated that a friend of his looted that CA, or something similar, I might have gotten the numbers switched around, off of a CL 72-73. Random is not fair because I have to face Elite Marks and Novice Bounty Hunters do not.
Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:24 PM
Maybe you should do the "Four Leaf Clover" Quest...that is about the only way that is going to change.
Last time I paged the terminals, I could pull 70's marks as a Master BH...and even if they are Elite, they go down just as fast.
So what you're saying is: You're not doing it for the challenge, you're doing it for the SEAs? Is that all this profession is to you?
I'll reiterate: I get plenty of good drops off of high-level marks. Want a rundown?
CA (Carbine Speed 6, Clothing Experimentation 9) from a level 81 mark
CA (Lightsaber Experimentation 5) from a level 82 mark
CA (Medical Experimentation 11, Terrain Negotiation 14) from a level 81 Boss mark
CA (Droid Experimentation 13, Rifle Accuracy 12) from a level 81 Elite mark
CA (Force Power Regen 1, Ranged Defense 6, Polearm Accuracy 11) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (2 Handed Lightsaber Accuracy 7, Medical Warfare Efficiency 11) from a level 82 Elite mark
AA (Carbine Defense 11, Rifle Defense 10) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (Healing Efficiency 5, Unarmed Accuracy 11, Unarmed Defense 8) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (Carbine Accuracy 15, Group Terrain Negotiation 5, Heavy Weapon Accuracy 3) from a level 82 Elite mark.
So it looks to me like the system is working fine for Master Bounty Hunters. Since you explicitly mentioned that your problem is that you aren't getting the loot that other MBHs are clearly getting, it would seem that what you really want is either to change what MBHs are getting or you're hoping to drag other people down so that they get as little as you have. Either way, we see what you're trying to do, and it isn't what you're claiming to support. Nerfing the lower level BHs won't get you more loot. Nor will changing the loot tables, since your problem is clearly BAD LUCK.
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
WiseBobo wrote:
Instead we have a bunch of lollygagers on the forum here, like you, declaring that all is lovely and you really should stop complaining and stepping on the little guy, who is just trying to make is way in the "oh soh big wold" that is SWG.
TashunkaSapa wrote:So what you're saying is: You're not doing it for the challenge, you're doing it for the SEAs? Is that all this profession is to you?
I'll reiterate: I get plenty of good drops off of high-level marks. Want a rundown?
CA (Carbine Speed 6, Clothing Experimentation 9) from a level 81 mark
CA (Lightsaber Experimentation 5) from a level 82 mark
CA (Medical Experimentation 11, Terrain Negotiation 14) from a level 81 Boss mark
CA (Droid Experimentation 13, Rifle Accuracy 12) from a level 81 Elite mark
CA (Force Power Regen 1, Ranged Defense 6, Polearm Accuracy 11) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (2 Handed Lightsaber Accuracy 7, Medical Warfare Efficiency 11) from a level 82 Elite mark
AA (Carbine Defense 11, Rifle Defense 10) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (Healing Efficiency 5, Unarmed Accuracy 11, Unarmed Defense 8) from a level 82 Elite mark
CA (Carbine Accuracy 15, Group Terrain Negotiation 5, Heavy Weapon Accuracy 3) from a level 82 Elite mark.
So it looks to me like the system is working fine for Master Bounty Hunters. Since you explicitly mentioned that your problem is that you aren't getting the loot that other MBHs are clearly getting, it would seem that what you really want is either to change what MBHs are getting or you're hoping to drag other people down so that they get as little as you have. Either way, we see what you're trying to do, and it isn't what you're claiming to support. Nerfing the lower level BHs won't get you more loot. Nor will changing the loot tables, since your problem is clearly BAD LUCK.
You are not understanding what I am saying.
Since I am a Master Bounty Hunter, I face elite marks. Much tougher and stronger to kill than a CL 72, but then again, nothing that I cannot handle. According to the Publish Notes, only other MBH's, such as yourself, should be getting decent loot, as you have just listed, off of these said elite marks. But that is not the case. Elite loot, like the list you posted above, is also dropping off of low CL's. This should not be the case. Elite loot should be reserved for elite marks. I don't care if a novice bounty hunter gets decent loot, in fact, more power to him/her. However, he should be facing the exact same things that I do in order to get it. Fair is fair, is it not?
Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:47 PM
Well, a CL 75 BH facing a CL 75 mark is just as much challenge as a CL80 BH facing a CL 80 mark, wouldn't you say?
Or we could go back to the days when a level 80 mission pulled a CL34 mark that didn't run and had no loot, that would be "fair" for everyone.
I don't worry about what the other guy is getting - I do my missions for my enjoyment and I prefer the challenge. The loot is just a nice addition. Seriously, what I'm hearing in this thread sounds like little kids complaining because Billy got 9 cheerios and you only got 8. Stop worrying about what the other guy is doing and just play the game, you'll have more fun than you will policing other people's enjoyment.
TashunkaSapa wrote:
WiseBobo wrote:
Instead we have a bunch of lollygagers on the forum here, like you, declaring that all is lovely and you really should stop complaining and stepping on the little guy, who is just trying to make is way in the "oh soh big wold" that is SWG.
Lollygagging? I'm the one who's out running the missions and getting the loot, while you're sitting here and whining about what you haven't gotten.Here's the solution: Shut your piehole and instead of spending your time crusading for a change, go out and run some damn missions. Soon you'll discover that the reason you've been getting no loot is because you haven't been working hard enough.Lollygagging, indeed... how much have you looted while writing these posts?I don't need to justify myself to you - but it's clear that I'm in the category of people you'd like to nerf to make yourself feel better about your own bad luck. I'm not stepping on the "little guy" - you're the one who wants to take his loot away from him.Yes, it's karma - despite all your horn-blowing, your selfish agenda is quite clear. So let me say it again: I don't care if the little guy gets good loots too. More power to him. What's your problem with it?
On with the flaming. This discussion certainly as turned into a who's-who argument. No, I have not been looting from missions during these posts because I do not have the time right now to go out and do 10 missions "real quick" in order to hope I get a decent CA through a matter of trial & error with statistics. So instead, I have decided to talk about what the publish notes state, and what is currently not happening. I simply want elite loot to be found on elite marks only on Bounty Hunter missions, just like the notes state. Elite loot should be reserved for masters of combat professions in this game, just as was the case with armor and the combat upgrade, and the current issue with CL-54 weapons outperforming master cert'd weapons. What is it that you are not understanding? Anyways, I've got to go. I'll continue this discussion when I get back.
Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:58 PM
Phat lewt isnt the only thing to do as a BH.. ..who cares what a noivce gets and you don't.. ..ive gotten good and bad from boss marks.. ..
Yeah you have to track them so what.. ..jump to a planet.. might have to travel some.. uhhh.. isnt that what BH's do? We track.. we fly.. we kill..we get paid..
Leave the crying to the jedi when they get dropped.. ..
Makkaio wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving boss marks to Master box...this doesn't solve the problem that novice BH's are still getting good loot. I personally have gotten better loot from lower level marks than bosses.
Then, drop to Novice BH too.
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Correct...but you have no argument.
If a Novice BH gets the same loot as a Master BH, you both still have access to the same loot...they do not get more than you do.
What? No argument? A master bounty hunter will have to take out elite and boss marks and spend time flying from planet to planet while someone with novice BH and an otherwise full template can stay right on Corellia and get the same loot from novice marks? How is that not an argument?
I was under the impression that the higher end loot was going to be tied to boss marks and that master bounty hunters were the only ones to have access to those marks. All this does is move bosses to master bounty hunter with no change in the loot.
Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 04:00 PM
Have you not been paying attention to the conversation we've been having? Right now there is absolutely NO point in being a Master Bounty Hunter as far as the NPC BH mission mark content in concerned. This is the entire point we are trying to make.
_se7en wrote:
go kill jedi then.. .. thats guaranteed creds and novice cant do it.. ..
Phat lewt isnt the only thing to do as a BH.. ..who cares what a noivce gets and you don't.. ..ive gotten good and bad from boss marks.. ..
Yeah you have to track them so what.. ..jump to a planet.. might have to travel some.. uhhh.. isnt that what BH's do? We track.. we fly.. we kill..we get paid..
Leave the crying to the jedi when they get dropped.. ..
Message Edited by joejccva on 08-25-2005 03:06 PM
Makkaio wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving boss marks to Master box...this doesn't solve the problem that novice BH's are still getting good loot. I personally have gotten better loot from lower level marks than bosses.
Then, drop to Novice BH too.
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Correct...but you have no argument.
If a Novice BH gets the same loot as a Master BH, you both still have access to the same loot...they do not get more than you do.
What? No argument? A master bounty hunter will have to take out elite and boss marks and spend time flying from planet to planet while someone with novice BH and an otherwise full template can stay right on Corellia and get the same loot from novice marks? How is that not an argument?
I was under the impression that the higher end loot was going to be tied to boss marks and that master bounty hunters were the only ones to have access to those marks. All this does is move bosses to master bounty hunter with no change in the loot.
Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 04:00 PM
The higher level loot I believe is the Power Cells, Casings, Scopes, and Stocks. Which seem to only drop off of the Boss (Gold) Mobs. SEA's have a chance of dropping off of any NPC Mob, The Level of the Mob determines how high the SEA stats are.That is just a product of the whole loot system in the game,not BH missions specifically.
The only way to fix it would be to remove SEA drops from BH missions all together. Becareful what you complain about, cause they might just fix it. 
Message Edited by CyberFett on 08-25-2005 03:07 PM