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Thread: Im tired of low or no investigation BH's getting good loot when we have to travel everywhere

Makkaio
Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:01 pm
#14




I hate double posts.

Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 06:02 PM



Makkaio

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TashunkaSapa
Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:47 pm
#15






joejccva wrote:

No I'm not a respec BH. I didn't slice terminals, I just did the grind normal.




Then why were you asking about respec in this thread?

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=bounty_hunter&message.id=482091#M482091


At any rate, you didn't do it "the hard way", you did it "the normal way". You got 50% higher payouts and twice the Investigation XP that old school BHs did, you likely travelled from planet to planet on your own ship, and even if you did wait for a ship you waited one minute, not 10. When you got to the destination planet, you likely shuttled to the closest player city and rode your bike from there.


Try it when payouts were 2/3 of what they are now, when Investigation XP was 1% of the payout, when there were no personal starships, no player city shuttles, no mounts or vehicles... THAT's the hard way. So, should the old school Bounty Hunters get better loot than you?


Seriously, what's it matter what the other guy gets? If you mastered BH just for the uber loot then you mastered for the wrong reason - not to mention, given the time frame I'd bet a respec was involved. Either way, the other guy's loot shouldn't mean jack to you. You're not getting less than him so why don't you put all this effort into running more missions instead of complaining on the forums?



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Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:53 pm
#16

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WiseBobo
Thu Aug 25, 2005 2:55 pm
#17

The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.



"I'll take "Where's my game?" for $1000 Alex. Sorry. Wrong game."


"Wouldn't it be cool if they would allow neutral smugglers to bring in
some form of supplies to the area? Oh wait, that is smuggling. Not
being done. Nevermind.


- Azreal-Mando

DanoCollins
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:00 pm
#18






WiseBobo wrote:
The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.





If you start pulling on that thread...the entire rug is going to come apart...


The loot tables are already out of whack, so this surprises who? If the good loot drops for all BH, it is probably because they can't make it skill box based at the moment....


So, the proposed nerf is going to screw all BH.





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TashunkaSapa
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:04 pm
#19






WiseBobo wrote:
The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.




And it's not one that should matter to anyone. I've been a Master BH for a long, long time - and I don't give a damn about what some noivce BH is getting. Good for them - we didn't get ANY loot when I mastered it.


If they want to tweak it some time, great - as long as it doesn't hose us. But I wouldn't trust them to get it right later if they didn't get it right already. Personally, there are higher priorities that need attention first.That is also a really simple concept.





Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri)
Imperial Pilot Ace/Master Smuggler/Master Bounty Hunter
Master Explorer. Force-Sensitive. HERO OF TATOOINE.
WiseBobo
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:08 pm
#20



DanoCollins wrote:


WiseBobo wrote:
The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.


If you start pulling on that thread...the entire rug is going to come apart...

The loot tables are already out of whack, so this surprises who? If the good loot drops for all BH, it is probably because they can't make it skill box based at the moment....

So, the proposed nerf is going to screw all BH.






Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact. The notes say MBH's are to get elite marks with elite loot, not novice bounty hunters just starting out facing low level marks. If the system is currently not working, then you change it to the way it is supposed to be.



"I'll take "Where's my game?" for $1000 Alex. Sorry. Wrong game."


"Wouldn't it be cool if they would allow neutral smugglers to bring in
some form of supplies to the area? Oh wait, that is smuggling. Not
being done. Nevermind.


- Azreal-Mando

WiseBobo
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:10 pm
#21



TashunkaSapa wrote:


WiseBobo wrote:
The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.

And it's not one that should matter to anyone. I've been a Master BH for a long, long time - and I don't give a damn about what some noivce BH is getting. Good for them - we didn't get ANY loot when I mastered it.

If they want to tweak it some time, great - as long as it doesn't hose us. But I wouldn't trust them to get it right later if they didn't get it right already. Personally, there are higher priorities that need attention first. That is also a really simple concept.






It does not matter what you think of the system, it is a matter of what the system is supposed to be. Again, it is not your opinion on the matter that we are arguing here, but what is clearly said in the publishing notes that is not currently happening. Cause & Effect. Read up on it sometime.



"I'll take "Where's my game?" for $1000 Alex. Sorry. Wrong game."


"Wouldn't it be cool if they would allow neutral smugglers to bring in
some form of supplies to the area? Oh wait, that is smuggling. Not
being done. Nevermind.


- Azreal-Mando

TashunkaSapa
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:11 pm
#22






WiseBobo wrote:
Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact.



What's "baseless" is your assumption that they'll get it right on this try, when they failed before.


Going by their track record, it's highly unlikely that they'll get it right, but very likely that they'll screw up something else unintentionally.


The only FACT about which you should concern yourself is that YOU are getting the loot that YOU are supposed to. Stop worrying about nerfing "the other guy".





Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri)
Imperial Pilot Ace/Master Smuggler/Master Bounty Hunter
Master Explorer. Force-Sensitive. HERO OF TATOOINE.
DanoCollins
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:12 pm
#23









WiseBobo wrote:





DanoCollins wrote:





WiseBobo wrote:
The fact of the matter is however that it clearly states in the publish notes that the quality of loot is supposed to be directly paralleled with the level of the Bounty Hunter, which is just not the case. Non-elite marks should not drop elite loot, period. The system is defined as to reward Master Bounty Hunters with much better loot because they have to face elite marks and lower level's do not. It is an extremely simple concept.





If you start pulling on that thread...the entire rug is going to come apart...


The loot tables are already out of whack, so this surprises who? If the good loot drops for all BH, it is probably because they can't make it skill box based at the moment....


So, the proposed nerf is going to screw all BH.









Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact. The notes say MBH's are to get elite marks with elite loot, not novice bounty hunters just starting out facing low level marks. If the system is currently not working, then you change it to the way it is supposed to be.





...and you do?


I do know this...if you cry about something in this game, eventually it gets worse for just about everyone. Instead of being happy about the loot, certain people would rather complain because they didn't get the loot, and they are simply jealous.


Where did I post "baseless" assumptions? Have you been around this forum for awhile? Have you checked the Publish notes lately? I would say that past history is a pretty good base for my assumptions.


Edit*


TashunkaSapagot to it first...


Message Edited by DanoCollins on 08-25-2005 06:16 PM



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WiseBobo
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:16 pm
#24


TashunkaSapa wrote:


WiseBobo wrote:
Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact.

What's "baseless" is your assumption that they'll get it right on this try, when they failed before.

Going by their track record, it's highly unlikely that they'll get it right, but very likely that they'll screw up something else unintentionally.

The only FACT about which you should concern yourself is that YOU are getting the loot that YOU are supposed to. Stop worrying about nerfing "the other guy".






The last time they screwed up something unintentionally, the community as a whole complained. I see the same exact thing happening if they start screwing around with what they shouldn't be, especially regarding how vocal this part of the forum is. I am NOT getting the loot that I am SUPPOSED to be getting. Do you want to trade the bugs I got off of a CL 82 with the two-handed LS speed +13 CA you got off a CL 72?

I didn't think so.

Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:17 PM



"I'll take "Where's my game?" for $1000 Alex. Sorry. Wrong game."


"Wouldn't it be cool if they would allow neutral smugglers to bring in
some form of supplies to the area? Oh wait, that is smuggling. Not
being done. Nevermind.


- Azreal-Mando

DanoCollins
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:18 pm
#25






WiseBobo wrote:




TashunkaSapa wrote:





WiseBobo wrote:
Oh so you know what is going to happen? No, you don't. Quit making baseless assumptions and posting them as fact.



What's "baseless" is your assumption that they'll get it right on this try, when they failed before.


Going by their track record, it's highly unlikely that they'll get it right, but very likely that they'll screw up something else unintentionally.


The only FACT about which you should concern yourself is that YOU are getting the loot that YOU are supposed to. Stop worrying about nerfing "the other guy".









The last time they screwed up something unintentionally, the community as a whole complained. I see the same exact thing happening if they start screwing around with what they shouldn't be, especially regarding how vocal this part of the forum is. I am NOT getting the loot that I am SUPPOSED to be getting. Do you want to trade the bugs I got off of a CL 82 with the two-handed LS speed +13 CA you got off a CL 72?

I didn't think so.

Message Edited by WiseBobo on 08-25-2005 03:17 PM



I have never looted a great CA like that off of any mark. Last time I checked, loot wasn't guaranteed to anyone. Keeping it random actually keeps it fair...and spreading it out also makes it fair.




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TashunkaSapa
Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:23 pm
#26








WiseBobo wrote:

The last time they screwed up something unintentionally, the community as a whole complained. I see the same exact thing happening if they start screwing around with what they shouldn't be, especially regarding how vocal this part of the forum is.





Riiiight. So would you care to tell me how this issue has made it through TWO publishes unchanged? You presume too much importance. Are you going to cancel your account because of what someone else is looting?






I am NOT getting the loot that I am SUPPOSED to be getting. Do you want to trade the bugs I got off of a CL 82 with the two-handed LS speed +13 CA you got off a CL 72?


Well, since I haven't seen a mark below CL81 since the new system, and I've gotten plenty of SEAs off them (nine in the last 60 missions), I'd say that you're lobbying for a change based not upon patch notes, but upon your own bad luck.


If there's anything that's influencing random chance, it could only be Karma.



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Imperial Pilot Ace/Master Smuggler/Master Bounty Hunter
Master Explorer. Force-Sensitive. HERO OF TATOOINE.
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