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Thread: Im tired of low or no investigation BH's getting good loot when we have to travel everywhere
CyberFett wrote:
Makkaio wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving boss marks to Master box...this doesn't solve the problem that novice BH's are still getting good loot. I personally have gotten better loot from lower level marks than bosses.
Then, drop to Novice BH too.
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Correct...but you have no argument.
If a Novice BH gets the same loot as a Master BH, you both still have access to the same loot...they do not get more than you do.
What? No argument? A master bounty hunter will have to take out elite and boss marks and spend time flying from planet to planet while someone with novice BH and an otherwise full template can stay right on Corellia and get the same loot from novice marks? How is that not an argument?
I was under the impression that the higher end loot was going to be tied to boss marks and that master bounty hunters were the only ones to have access to those marks. All this does is move bosses to master bounty hunter with no change in the loot.
Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 04:00 PM
The higher level loot I believe is the Power Cells, Casings, Scopes, and Stocks. SEA's have a chance of dropping off of any NPC Mob, The Level of the Mob determines how high the SEA stats are.That is just a product of the whole loot system in the game,not BH missions specifically.
The only way to fix it would be to remove SEA drops from BH missions all together. Becareful what you complain about, cause they might just fix it.
Bzzzt. WRONG. It's completely random as the way the system is in place right now. I have a Novice BH friend of mine who refuses to go any higher in the investigation tree and he got a +13 double bladed lightsaber speed CA 3 days ago.
So tell me another one.
Yes, some of us did get MBH "the hard way". You know, chasing our targets on foot for 1/3 of the Investigation XP people are awarded now. However, you weren't one of those.
joejccva wrote:
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Shaan'ti Hokai (Kauri) 
_se7en wrote:
go kill jedi then.. .. thats guaranteed creds and novice cant do it.. ..
Phat lewt isnt the only thing to do as a BH.. ..who cares what a noivce gets and you don't.. ..ive gotten good and bad from boss marks.. ..
Yeah you have to track them so what.. ..jump to a planet.. might have to travel some.. uhhh.. isnt that what BH's do? We track.. we fly.. we kill..we get paid..
Leave the crying to the jedi when they get dropped.. ..
Typically, I don't care what other players in the game do and won't whine about that kind of stuff. However, like a former president used to say, "It's the economy..." And that I do care about and that I will speak up about. I was a novice BH, too. And I know that I could do 6 to 10 novice missions in an hour when I was doing lazy grinding. As a master BH, I can do 3 to 5. There is a HUGE impact on the economy with that type of loot dropping to novice BH.
Oh, and I do hunt jedi about half of my playing time.
joejccva wrote:
Have you not been paying attention to the conversation we've been having? Right now there is absolutely NO point in being a Master Bounty Hunter as far as the NPC BH mission mark content in concerned. This is the entire point we are trying to make.
_se7en wrote:
go kill jedi then.. .. thats guaranteed creds and novice cant do it.. ..
Phat lewt isnt the only thing to do as a BH.. ..who cares what a noivce gets and you don't.. ..ive gotten good and bad from boss marks.. ..
Yeah you have to track them so what.. ..jump to a planet.. might have to travel some.. uhhh.. isnt that what BH's do? We track.. we fly.. we kill..we get paid..
Leave the crying to the jedi when they get dropped.. ..
Message Edited by joejccva on 08-25-2005 03:06 PM
Well then don't be a respec MBH for the NPC missions anymore.. ..like I said their is more to BH'in than silly NPC missions. Hunt jedi.. ..
These new missions are awesome and show the dev givin our prof some love. Were you ever a BH in the past? Someone said it a few up things use to not be nearly this good.. .. and yes we keep complaining about novice getting "insert item name and quantity here" than a MBH and they will just remove stuff and call it even.
Yeah its not cool they can get the same loot as me and I work harder but all Im saying is I am REALLY happy I even have the chance to get something I can use like power cells SOOOOOOO easily.. ..
_se7en wrote:
joejccva wrote:
Have you not been paying attention to the conversation we've been having? Right now there is absolutely NO point in being a Master Bounty Hunter as far as the NPC BH mission mark content in concerned. This is the entire point we are trying to make.
_se7en wrote:
go kill jedi then.. .. thats guaranteed creds and novice cant do it.. ..
Phat lewt isnt the only thing to do as a BH.. ..who cares what a noivce gets and you don't.. ..ive gotten good and bad from boss marks.. ..
Yeah you have to track them so what.. ..jump to a planet.. might have to travel some.. uhhh.. isnt that what BH's do? We track.. we fly.. we kill..we get paid..
Leave the crying to the jedi when they get dropped.. ..
Message Edited by joejccva on 08-25-2005 03:06 PM
Well then don't be a respec MBH for the NPC missions anymore.. ..like I said their is more to BH'in than silly NPC missions. Hunt jedi.. ..
These new missions are awesome and show the dev givin our prof some love. Were you ever a BH in the past? Someone said it a few up things use to not be nearly this good.. .. and yes we keep complaining about novice getting "insert item name and quantity here" than a MBH and they will just remove stuff and call it even.
Yeah its not cool they can get the same loot as me and I work harder but all Im saying is I am REALLY happy I even have the chance to get something I can use like power cells SOOOOOOO easily.. ..
To continue this thread is about as pointless and unresolving as Bria players getting any kind of compensation for 2 weeks of server downtime. So I will end with this. No I'm not a respec BH. I didn't slice terminals, I just did the grind normal. But if this is how you are going to react and handle the situation, then all master bh's that don't hunt jedi as much might as well all go novice which is what I will probably end up doing. I can get MBH back later. So I agree with OP.
joejccva wrote:
CyberFett wrote:
Makkaio wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving boss marks to Master box...this doesn't solve the problem that novice BH's are still getting good loot. I personally have gotten better loot from lower level marks than bosses.
Then, drop to Novice BH too.
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Correct...but you have no argument.
If a Novice BH gets the same loot as a Master BH, you both still have access to the same loot...they do not get more than you do.
What? No argument? A master bounty hunter will have to take out elite and boss marks and spend time flying from planet to planet while someone with novice BH and an otherwise full template can stay right on Corellia and get the same loot from novice marks? How is that not an argument?
I was under the impression that the higher end loot was going to be tied to boss marks and that master bounty hunters were the only ones to have access to those marks. All this does is move bosses to master bounty hunter with no change in the loot.
Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 04:00 PM
The higher level loot I believe is the Power Cells, Casings, Scopes, and Stocks. SEA's have a chance of dropping off of any NPC Mob, The Level of the Mob determines how high the SEA stats are.That is just a product of the whole loot system in the game,not BH missions specifically.
The only way to fix it would be to remove SEA drops from BH missions all together. Becareful what you complain about, cause they might just fix it.
Bzzzt. WRONG. It's completely random as the way the system is in place right now. I have a Novice BH friend of mine who refuses to go any higher in the investigation tree and he got a +13 double bladed lightsaber speed CA 3 days ago.
So tell me another one.
So........ Because you friend is a novice BH and he got a +13 LS speed tape, how does that make what I said wrong?
When you hunt a BH mark what level is the MOB? 81-82? What level Mob is his mark? Level 81-82?
That is exactlly what I said. They drop by the level of the mark, not by the mission type or what level investigation you have.
CyberFett wrote:
joejccva wrote:
CyberFett wrote:
Makkaio wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
DanoCollins wrote:
joejccva wrote:
It doesn't matter if they are moving boss marks to Master box...this doesn't solve the problem that novice BH's are still getting good loot. I personally have gotten better loot from lower level marks than bosses.
Then, drop to Novice BH too.
That's retarded especially since some of us grinded bh xp the hard way. Why should we have to drop down to Novice BH to do this? SOE needs to fix this! We take steps forward, not BACKWARDS.
Correct...but you have no argument.
If a Novice BH gets the same loot as a Master BH, you both still have access to the same loot...they do not get more than you do.
What? No argument? A master bounty hunter will have to take out elite and boss marks and spend time flying from planet to planet while someone with novice BH and an otherwise full template can stay right on Corellia and get the same loot from novice marks? How is that not an argument?
I was under the impression that the higher end loot was going to be tied to boss marks and that master bounty hunters were the only ones to have access to those marks. All this does is move bosses to master bounty hunter with no change in the loot.
Message Edited by Makkaio on 08-25-2005 04:00 PM
The higher level loot I believe is the Power Cells, Casings, Scopes, and Stocks. SEA's have a chance of dropping off of any NPC Mob, The Level of the Mob determines how high the SEA stats are.That is just a product of the whole loot system in the game,not BH missions specifically.
The only way to fix it would be to remove SEA drops from BH missions all together. Becareful what you complain about, cause they might just fix it.
Bzzzt. WRONG. It's completely random as the way the system is in place right now. I have a Novice BH friend of mine who refuses to go any higher in the investigation tree and he got a +13 double bladed lightsaber speed CA 3 days ago.
So tell me another one.
So........ Because you friend is a novice BH and he got a +13 LS speed tape, how does that make what I said wrong?
When you hunt a BH mark what level is the MOB? 81-82? What level Mob is his mark? Level 81-82?
That is exactlly what I said. They drop by the level of the mark, not by the mission type or what level investigation you have.
If you don't hunt jedi, don't PvP, and don't like being an MBH then yes go with Novice.. simple as that.
Novice = more phat lewt.. easier missions.. less travel time.. getting ganked in pvp..
if your not happy with MBH then yes you need to switch.. ..supposed to be fun so if this doesn't do it for you try something else. I hear Chef's are cool.
jdc8 wrote:So im droping all my investigation in order to get the easy drops untill they nerf it so that the masters only get the good loot. And since i have 60k of banked investigation i wont have any trouble re learning it once they switch it to master. Hell if you cant beat them.. join them!
damned if ya do damned if ya don't
lol there is always something to cry nerf about I guess.
Who cares if novice guys get good loot too? Well, you do I guess but why? How does it affect the MBH if a NBH gets good loot? I hate it when profs scream nerf other profs, now we got profs screaming nerf my prof.
ohwell, please don't take this as a flame, it wasn't meant to be.
Awww, were your feelings hurt?
It's funny how it's only "flaming" once someone exposes you - until then you can try and posture like you're concerned about someone else's well-being. But your posts seem to be all about you and what you want and why you've been done wrong. So, we've been talking about you.
Let the "little guy" enjoy his loot - folks like you will surely get us all nerfed sooner or later when the Devs screw up the fix.
TashunkaSapa wrote:
Awww, were your feelings hurt?
It's funny how it's only "flaming" once someone exposes you - until then you can try and posture like you're concerned about someone else's well-being. But your posts seem to be all about you and what you want and why you've been done wrong. So, we've been talking about you.
Let the "little guy" enjoy his loot - folks like you will surely get us all nerfed sooner or later when the Devs screw up the fix.
Ok last night I did 45 missions ...40 were elites level 81-82 and 5 were bosses all level 82. Would you like to know what I got from doing 45 elites and bosses last night? NOT ONE CA/AA. All smuggler loot and bugs....oh I thought I got a warm hat too. This is a serious problem. I played from 5pm - 2am ...also killing a few jedi in the mix as well. I took missions on almost every planet ..some one named marks, some two named marks. I didn't even get any bh schematics.
My friend that was a novice BH ...played for a few hours while I was logged in and by the time he logged out he said he did roughly 10 missions...all low level marks and received this:
CA - +12 double bladed lightsaber speed, +10 defense vs knockdown
AA - +7 carbine speed, +10 general ranged accuracy
1 clear "good" quality lightsaber crystal
2 BH Schematics
Rest was smuggler loot.
Now could this be coincedence?? Maybe so? Probably not? I have no idea but I do know that I spent 4-5 times as long playing, and did pracitcally 30 more missions than he did when I was killing high level elite and boss marks and I got ABSOLUTELY SQUAT and for the amount of time he spent and the missions he did he got some VERY VERY nice loot.
But of course you don't see this...you think we are crying and crying and waaaaaaaaah all the way home and "dont worry about what someone else gets"....blah blah blah. I'm telling you right now ...THIS is unacceptable. This is NOT how the system should work. I did the "normal" grind to Master Bounty Hunter and while it's no where near the grind you had a long time ago...grinding BH xp today isn't something that is quick when you can't play everyday. Took me about 2 weeks because I only can play 3-4 days a week. When someone else can just be a novice BH and not go through the "normal" grind to get MBH and he's getting more loot than somoene that worked to get MBH because the devs said the harder and higher the marks are the better loot and more frequent loot, then something just isn't right.
Again...I see everyone's point but still...you are a fool if you can't see something wrong with what I stated in my post here.
Thanks for listening.
Braxmus