Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??
Ivo_Kos
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:37 pm
#365
If you are going to keep BHs with very little defense, I think the weapon change timer is retarded and uncalled for. Part of the BHs skill is to be able to adjust to the situation at a moments notice...not 3-5 seconds...a fight can easily be lost in that 3-5 seconds. I also agree that the ranged support and rifle tree of Marksman are unneed requirements. If you insist on keeping these here, at least give BH a rilfe that compliments the profession well. The LLC is useless in PVP thus making that another wasted skill tree for those who choose to pursue PVP play. It would also be nice if the BH could modify their suits and weapons like a smuggler. Not all BHs are going to depend on a store bought weapon/armor. They will tinker with it somewhat.
I do like the idea of being having the Bounty Pistol line with the smuggler pistol line and also Master pistoleer...that is if thats possible...I haven't done the skill point math yet to find out though.
I do like the idea of being having the Bounty Pistol line with the smuggler pistol line and also Master pistoleer...that is if thats possible...I haven't done the skill point math yet to find out though.
Sron
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:43 pm
#367
Great, they "fix" a broken profession by allowing you to play a working one.
Nice way to gloss over the real problem.
Buxley
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:49 pm
#368
Sron wrote:
Great, they "fix" a broken profession by allowing you to play a working one.
Nice way to gloss over the real problem.
Yep. Sadly, this is true.
It's simply a quick fix thatcheapens the entire bounty hunter profession. I was proud to be a MBH because it was just so damn hard to get there. Now it's gonna be so much easier that we're going to have dabblers and wannabes all over the place. It'll be ten times worse than the "Expert Bounty Hunter" problem of six months ago.
Yeah, they fixed us all right. Kind of the way my dog got fixed...
-Bux
FelonyArson
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:51 pm
#369
SOE, why don't you just quit with all the quick fixes and do some freakin' work?
YOUR PLAYERS ARE EMBARASSING YOU WITH BETTER IDEAS THAN YOU'VE EVER COME UP WITH....EVER.
Andholio
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:53 pm
#370
Maybe, just maybe, you consider FIXING OUR PROFESSION instead of TAKING capabilities away!
WHY CANT MASTER BOUNTY HUNTER just be a MASTER BOUNTY HUNTER? I would rather spend ALL my points being a kick-butt MBH with *USEABLE PVE AND PVP BH only TRAPS*, tricks, etc. etc. BE INVENTIVE AND INNOVATIVE. You people alway take the route of least resistance and cheapens the professions to merely grinding. Why will I care about extra points when I know it will just mean I have to sit at a keyboard GRINDING some STUPID useless, and eventually messed up additional profession.
MAKES BOUNTY HUNTERS *BE* BOUNTY HUNTERS
SHOW SOME IMAGINATION AND INNOVATION IN CREATING TRAPS, TRICKS, NEW WEAPONS, NEW ARMOR, NEW SKILLS, AND OTHER THINGS FOR BH ONLY
WHY CANT MASTER BOUNTY HUNTER just be a MASTER BOUNTY HUNTER? I would rather spend ALL my points being a kick-butt MBH with *USEABLE PVE AND PVP BH only TRAPS*, tricks, etc. etc. BE INVENTIVE AND INNOVATIVE. You people alway take the route of least resistance and cheapens the professions to merely grinding. Why will I care about extra points when I know it will just mean I have to sit at a keyboard GRINDING some STUPID useless, and eventually messed up additional profession.
MAKES BOUNTY HUNTERS *BE* BOUNTY HUNTERS
SHOW SOME IMAGINATION AND INNOVATION IN CREATING TRAPS, TRICKS, NEW WEAPONS, NEW ARMOR, NEW SKILLS, AND OTHER THINGS FOR BH ONLY
SamousNemo
Tue Jun 29, 2004 7:54 pm
#371
There's been a lot of talk in this thread about moving Jedi missions into the master box (although I still don't understand why, JustG gave absolutely no sign of doing this and that BH 3000 will just be the new FOTM). You guys are getting off topic and forgetting what JustG's post is all about; not fixing BH, just letting us become something else.
So what? move Jedi missions into MBH, go ahead. That still doesn't change the fact that we can't hit anything with our LLC, eyeshot's going to be nerfed in the Comb Rebalance, and our Carb HAM costs are still out of control and everyone can protect against dizzy/KD.
Ok, so now I'm a MBH who can go more into rifle, or carb, or pistol. So what? That STILL means that my other 3 or 4 lines are going to be worthless with the weapon switch delay.You will still befocusing on ONE weapon proficiency and ignoring the others. This has never been what BH was about.
And is everyone forgetting about Ranger, or what? I don't know about you guys, but when my NPC marks are invisible (because of another bug that isn't being fixed) and I need to use an area attack to spawn him, I'm damn happy I have my Ranger Track 3 so I can figure out where he's supposed to be. But with removing master scout from the prerequisite, we will STILL have to master it anyhow in order to get our NPC bounties to work. "Why would you want to still hunt NPCs after mastery?" you ask? Well, last I checked, they are paying more than hunting Jedi.
There's been a LOT of good suggestions coming up in this thread; humanoid traps, more LLC accuracy, shortening shuttle times, fixing droids... but giving us more skill boxes doesn't solve ANY of them. Let's not assume that because JustG is finally doing something that we are going to see any more. This is just one more half-baked idea the DEVs want to shove down our throats in order to appease us... it is NOT a solution for fixing Bounty Hunter.
Mark my words ladies and gentlemen, if we take this for an answer, they'll think everything about BH is fine and we will never see a permanent fix.
Aanu
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:06 pm
#373
Bergalad wrote:
I'm not even going to read this whole thread, and I know very well this post will be lost in the shuffle too. I'll say it in all-caps to be rude:
THIS IS A BANDAID! YOU ARE MAKING BH EASIER TO GET NOT HARDER LIKE IT SHOULD BE! YOU ARE CATERING TO THE WEAK AND VOCAL MINORITY AGAIN! MAKE US A VIABLE PROFESSION THAT HAS THE ABILITIES YOU PROMISED US! DON'T GIVE US BACK SKILL POINTS, BUT INSTEAD USE ALL 250 UP TO BECOME MBH! THIS IS NOT THE ANSWER, NOT EVEN CLOSE! WHO IN THE HELL ARE YOU LISTENING TO FOR THESE IDEAS?! HOW ABOUT TALKING TO US FIRST INSTEAD OF BLANKET PROPOSALS WE DON'T WANT! THIS IS WHAT YOU DID TO THE JEDI AS WELL AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED! WHY WON'T YOU LISTEN TO US?!
ARE YOU LISTENING??
Message Edited by Aanu on 06-29-2004 08:07 PM
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0smspiff0
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:07 pm
#374
Well I am very glad I did not keep BHer after I mastered in in September - it took me almost four months (3 straight weeks for the last box of investigation alone). I dropped it because I saw no fixes coming - and now this?
Why not dilute the BHer profession further. If you do this (which is a good idea BTW) you really MUST move Jedi missions to master. You also MUST remove the weapon change penalty OR make the state effects stick longer so that BHer have the chance to change weapons.
If this is the answer to fixing the weakness of BHer (let them hunt marks with other professions) then it is the WORST solution ever. If this is to let BHers diversify more then great. But moving the Jedi missions to master (and FIXING them) is basically a necessity. The only thing that the BHer profession has going for it is hunting marks - giving that away makes the profession basically useless - and that is exactly what this will change - 3/0/0/0 BHer + other melee combat profession.
If you want to gut the BHer profession then just make Investigation some sort of Elite Eltie profession of each combat profession so that anyone can do it (that has mastered an elite combat profession).
supacaliman
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:08 pm
#375
I agree aanu 100% where do I sign. If this is the fix for good, well......then I have to say im about done.
FM_Warblood
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:08 pm
#376
I for one could care less abut the extra skill points. Its the weapon delay time that I cant stand. If it is still in the game come friday im gone.
BlindTyldak
Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:14 pm
#377
FM_Warblood wrote:
I for one could care less abut the extra skill points. Its the weapon delay time that I cant stand. If it is still in the game come friday im gone.
I know one thing . . . if that weapon delay timer gets removed for BH's, you damn well do it for the CH's too. Our pets are OUR weapons, and we're sick of being penalized for it as you are doing to these folks.