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Thread: Regarding House-Jedi (Updated 10/14)

raziviWH
Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:20 pm
#365

You cannot touch macros to change the house sitting 'problem' without it effecting other macro users. Center of being macros, bacta infusion macros, entertainer macros, doc buff macros, jedi aura/infusion/ect. I'm not talking about AFK macros but repeating macros that ATK players use. Personally, CoB and Bacta Infusion are on repeating macros during my fights, how about you? Touch macros and it will do more than do a minor change to house sitters.


I do agree with a prior post. Return jedi to the power and ability they once had AND return BH's ability to use groups to attack them. Granted, recent unlocks and low lvl paddies should be non-group bounties. But as they gain boxes and rank (with the eventual return of the FRS) allow a the BH to group another group member. With the CL system it wouldn't be hard. A lvl 80 knight would get a full group after them, but a lvl 50 paddy with few boxes would get a single BH with maybe one tag along.



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charb
Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:38 pm
#366

does staying logged in reduce visibility?


if so, its possible that jedi may be hiding in their house to "lower" their visibility for when they are ready to grind the next day.


if this is true, then we need to not worry about jedi being in a house, but actually change it so jedi don't lose their visibility rating.


i would think it to be possible to remove jedi from being on the terms if in a player house, yet also ensure they are not being rewarded for being a coward.
Phaelyn
Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:39 am
#367






charb wrote:

does staying logged in reduce visibility?


if so, its possible that jedi may be hiding in their house to "lower" their visibility for when they are ready to grind the next day.


if this is true, then we need to not worry about jedi being in a house, but actually change it so jedi don't lose their visibility rating.


i would think it to be possible to remove jedi from being on the terms if in a player house, yet also ensure they are not being rewarded for being a coward.






Let me put this simply.


One of the BIGGEST complaints from many Forums around here is that "Jedi should be in hiding". So now because Jedi ARE hiding, you want to take away the ability to reduce Visibility. There is absolutely NO logic to what you are suggesting.


And on top of it, you label ALL Jedi who go into a house and go AFK as cowards. What about us needing to answer the phone or door in real life? What about Bio breaks? Those that DON'T sit AFK for hours are the same as those who do?



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BobaMeng
Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:38 am
#368


Ah....Phaelyn, the voice of reason and logic. Behind you is a trail of other rational thinkers who attempted to put this issue to rest.

I returned to this thread after 5 days and I'm surprised that it's still alive and kicking.

I have nothing to add because everything's been said.

Can someone close this thread already?


Listen up:

No one is going to "fix the game" so a poorly skilled player can force a fellow subscriber out of his house. This is what it comes down to.I do not hear a single WORD ofsupport for this ill-concieved idea from any of the veteran Bounty Hunters on Eclipse that have managed to kill me several times. (Feel free to correct me- I scanned the sea of posts and couldn't find any)


Also, the value judgements and moralizing (referring to players as "cowards") is simply retarded. We are all playing a computer game here.


These forums are, for the most part, a cesspool of complaining followed by other more experienced players attempting to explain things to the complainers using rational thought, and failing, for the most part.

If the same amount of time whining on the forums were devoted to learning the mechanics of the game and the strategies available, it would make a better, more challenging game for everybody, bugs and all.


TTFN

I'm off to check out the whining Jedi forums now..........then i'm going to the forum of TRUE pain, the Tailor forum. Become a Tailor, man. Then you'll REALLY have something to complain about. ROFL.







Message Edited by BobaMeng on 10-23-2005 04:39 AM



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Elisar
Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:50 am
#369






raziviWH wrote:

You cannot touch macros to change the house sitting 'problem' without it effecting other macro users. Center of being macros, bacta infusion macros, entertainer macros, doc buff macros, jedi aura/infusion/ect. I'm not talking about AFK macros but repeating macros that ATK players use. Personally, CoB and Bacta Infusion are on repeating macros during my fights, how about you? Touch macros and it will do more than do a minor change to house sitters.


I do agree with a prior post. Return jedi to the power and ability they once had AND return BH's ability to use groups to attack them. Granted, recent unlocks and low lvl paddies should be non-group bounties. But as they gain boxes and rank (with the eventual return of the FRS) allow a the BH to group another group member. With the CL system it wouldn't be hard. A lvl 80 knight would get a full group after them, but a lvl 50 paddy with few boxes would get a single BH with maybe one tag along.



Raz-







You give me back lightsaber damage and return Jedi to their former glory and you can hunt me with NON-JEDI groups All day long.


To be reasonable 2-3 should be the max. And they should All have at least Inv. 3 like pre-cu.


Hell, you could even put our names back on the board at Knight.


Give me back my power and bring your buddies. I'll buy that for a dollar!





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Blaakhammer
Sun Oct 23, 2005 10:55 pm
#370

lmao, im shocked by some of these suggestions, what amazes me, is that JEDI are the BH'S only content, I would never have beleived it till i came here to read it for myself.if the JEDI dont want to fight..then any means neccessary for a BH to get his kill is ok?
Stecoli
Mon Oct 24, 2005 11:16 pm
#371

SioBabble
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:01 am
#372

It disgusts me that BHs feel they MUST compete with Jedi to be the biggest group of crybabies in the game.


This is about crying. If the Jedi you're tracking is in a house and won't come out, get another mission. Consider to to be like a mark that drowns in the Eastern Corellian Sea or something.






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Leatherneck_of_Alderaan
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:11 am
#373






Boro_Marl wrote:

In all honesty, this shouldn't even be an issue. Aren't jedi by SW cannon not supposed to own anything? let alone a house. why not go back to a playstyle where a jedi's life is to be fraught with peril, given the *so-called* timeline of the game? just MHO.


greed...probably leads to the dark side. even those on the dark side, well, they're still jedi






Null argument, or did you forget Ben Kenobi's house on Tat?



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Rokkittt
Tue Oct 25, 2005 2:35 am
#374

How about get rid of the -400k xp a jedi loses if DB. I know for a fact you guys would get a lot more jedi to come out of their houses.



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DianaPrince
Thu Oct 27, 2005 7:41 am
#375


StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Don't let the Jedi community Swindle you when you have an idea, Their just afraid that they won't be safe anymore by being AFK all day and night in their house or while cloaked thinking they are 'invulnerable' while on the bh terminals..

Seriously... don't give up.. something needs to be done with the people whom do it purposely to the BH and the many who dont support the idea is the majority who does it..

They clog the terms wasteing droid/food/time P.S






I think we should be able to get them out of the house, assuming we have a weapon that can cut through walls, like oh let's say, a lightsaber.

Ok, a more serious note...

Jedi are so low class in the game now, they are not much of a challange to fight anymore. This is not good, and if it makes them leave the game, then we are left hunting the same Jedi over and over. Already it is nuts that you seem to get the same freaking Jedi mission all the time.

Look at Jedi - we and the PVP crowd has gotten our way with them more than we realize.

They have crap armor, even a MD has less armor than we can get with our BHs, they have crap weapons, a great lightsaber is like 650 Max Damage, and can be used every 2 secs at the maximum, not including special attacks, since that speed is also bugged and not based on modified speed.

In contrast, my BH/Pistoleer/CM4xxx can fire a 948 kinetic pistol every second, hit them harder than they can hit me, if they can get close to me, and I can out heal them even with just 4xxx CM. Also if I watch my foods, I don't run out of Mind or Action, and they run out of force, no matter what they eat or do.

Oh, and don't forget their weapon is now energy, and our PSGs do a good job of protecting us from that in addition to good Armor, and if they wear a PSG, we aren't stuck with an energy weapon like they are, our kinetic weapons punch right through their PSGs.

I agree with the begining post, give our BH toons a way to know if they are in a house, doing something where they are protected.

Them being in a building that we can't get into is not out of the realm of realism, and is not a bad thing either - as they could be just hanging out with friends, having a guild meeting, decorating their house, who knows, etc.

However, we need a way to know they are not attackable or don't even put them on the terms if they are not outside a private structure.

Oh, and as for asking SOE to nerf the 'cloaking' Jedi, DON'T... Every time one profession gets another nerf, we soon get a follow up nerf to restore their idea of balance.

Instead of asking for cloaked Jedi to be nerfed, ask for a new ability for us instead. Maybe give us ability to see them, even though we can't attack them, we could follow them easier, and at least we would not get the cloaker attack surprise after we thought they ran off. Or let us know they are cloaked when our droid gives us the report on them from the biosignature.

Maybe just making the droid report more complete would be enough to keep our time from being wasted if we are serious hunters. Tell us if they are moving, in a private structure, cloaked, etc...

Maybe even a new ability from the droid that tells us a random bit of information on their template, so we can prepare better - not enouch we know they are not full templates so the crap BHs don't start the griefing again, but maybe tell us one tree or two they have or tell us a coupld of trees that they at least have one box in, so we have an idea what they are, or are working on.

Message Edited by DianaPrince on 10-27-2005 07:46 AM



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RyFord
Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:29 am
#376

As soon as XP loss is removed I wouldn't have a problem with this but until then, absolutely not.




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Durissis
Thu Oct 27, 2005 9:58 am
#377

I say just let us enter the house their in wether its private or not..... that would solve the problem...


rigging droids to tell us if their in structures or inactive is just pointless and a wast of a good droid...


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