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Thread: Regarding House-Jedi (Updated 10/14)

freedomwarrior
Sun Oct 16, 2005 6:13 pm
#326


The afk macros do not affect the lag. The lag is affected by poor server side maitenance on soes part. Its also about poor code being implemented that causes game mechanics to coincide with other mechanics thus causing a feedback. Good example, cm poisons were tied into the code for maintenance on cities. Remember the fiasco a week back.


As far as you saying its not about you, well there were an awful lot of I's in there. And there you go, you want to make another profession take a bite just so you dont have too. Hence the withdrawal request of recursive macros. The removal of the recursive macro doesnt have any benefits other than to make a poor miserable bh who cant cut it not have to work so hard. Cry me a river, I said it once, I will say it again, if you cant cut it, quit the profession and try something else. If you dont want to quit, suck it up and deal with it.


And I never said anything about me on the recursive macros. Would I hate to see them go, he11 yes I would. And not for me, because anyone on my server will tell you I dont need to use them. IM one of the best smiths on my server and dont need the barker droids to get business. However, there are alot of newer smiths(crafters) who without these bonuses, would not be able to get a foothold on the crafter market. So see, your argument holds no water as I dont use them. But if it makes you feel special, go ahead and think that.





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masselin
Sun Oct 16, 2005 7:25 pm
#327

players are safe in their homes. that's part of the game. bounty hunters by their very nature are weak people. of course they are going to cry when they can't gank someone. let them suffer.



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M4dC4t
Sun Oct 16, 2005 11:14 pm
#328

Just like to say if you want a reason my Jedi will be found sitting in her house, I'll tell ya, normally when there is a internal problem in my guild and I will sit her there all day so I can read back on guild chat to see whats said, btw this does not happen that often and I normally try to use my alt. On another note I had to leave one day in a hurry was gone about 6 hours with my character in my house NOT RUNNING A MACRO she was still running when I got home this has also happened for longer periods of time as well. The mechanics of the game are missed up and SOE knows it problem is they would rather make money off an expansion instead of fixing problems, lol.


Hey I think this is my calmest post yet, maybe ther is hope of me turning into a nice person.



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DathylBran
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:41 am
#329






freedomwarrior wrote:


And here we go back to the same self argument. We waste their time, so they waste ours. Get a grip mate. If you cant handle it, respec to another profession and be happy. No one forced you or I to hunt them. So in the end, if they are in the house, oh well. If your after credits, then do the regular missions, the payouts are quite decent. If your after PvP, then go overt. To me it sounds like youargue just a lil much andmight beone of those bh who likes to ruin others play time by causing them the xp lose.


IF you are the latter then all I can say is grow up, because your giving the rest of us a bad name.







Of course it's the 'self same argument' you idiot, because there is absolutely no reason for long term AFK house sitting, which is the issue. The minute someone comes up with a valid reason for all day afk-ing in a house, doing nothing at all, then Iwill accept it.


Why is it whenever peoples opinions are challenged on these boards the most common reply ' change your profession'? I can only assume it's simply that the people replying with this don't actually have the intellectual depth to carry a discussion, ie pros and cons of an argument,or daddy hasn't noticed where the credit card charges are going.






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Digitalalchemyzt
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:54 am
#330

WHat?? is this dude serious???


Nobody has to tell you anything. lol!! You are a digital nobody and are no developer to this game. Like ANYONE, bh or jed has to "tell" you why they are afk no matter how long it takes. LOL


Your arrogance is hillarious man!


To the SMART bhs here, a droid needs to be able to tell if one is afk AND moving or no..a message that says subject is moving. also for up to 10mins if they have not moved. as in a timer that goes off every 1 min.


this dude up here tho saying we need a reason to be afk can shove it deep. No one owes you anything. you are no god (aka the ghostbuster thing..who remembers that?? LOL) no developer, nothing. so no one owes you anything. well. gameplay maybe, but outside of that it shocks me that you truly think anyone needs a 'reason' to be afk for your convenience. please. ignorant posts like this go as far as this thread. thats it. also, devs said no kicking people out of their house. cuz that would include everyone, not just jedi. go play on the freeway...


DathylBran
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:06 am
#331






freedomwarrior wrote:


The afk macros do not affect the lag. The lag is affected by poor server side maitenance on soes part. Its also about poor code being implemented that causes game mechanics to coincide with other mechanics thus causing a feedback. Good example, cm poisons were tied into the code for maintenance on cities. Remember the fiasco a week back.


As far as you saying its not about you, well there were an awful lot of I's in there. And there you go, you want to make another profession take a bite just so you dont have too. Hence the withdrawal request of recursive macros. The removal of the recursive macro doesnt have any benefits other than to make a poor miserable bh who cant cut it not have to work so hard. Cry me a river, I said it once, I will say it again, if you cant cut it, quit the profession and try something else. If you dont want to quit, suck it up and deal with it.


And I never said anything about me on the recursive macros. Would I hate to see them go, he11 yes I would. And not for me, because anyone on my server will tell you I dont need to use them. IM one of the best smiths on my server and dont need the barker droids to get business. However, there are alot of newer smiths(crafters) who without these bonuses, would not be able to get a foothold on the crafter market. So see, your argument holds no water as I dont use them. But if it makes you feel special, go ahead and think that.







So, the afk macros that players set up so they can stand around in the MO all day spamming 'want to buy Maroj Melon' doesn't affect lag. I bow to your superior knowledge.


I see we are at the point where you say 'get another prof' again. Well done, powerful arguement.


Didn't you say in an earlier post that you did use barker droids? And the point about you being one of the 'best smiths on your server' is (a boast IMHO)? If so, why don't you set up a mall and allow the starting smiths to use it rent free, and advertise on the forums? You, as one of the best smiths on the server, would not doubt attract a lot of players and the new smiths would be exposed. Might take a little altruistic effort on your part, but hey, lets not go there.


You are still trying to be personal though, which does nothing but amuse me, belittle yourself, and furthers the 'discussion' not at all.





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freedomwarrior
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:02 am
#332






DathylBran wrote:





freedomwarrior wrote:


The afk macros do not affect the lag. The lag is affected by poor server side maitenance on soes part. Its also about poor code being implemented that causes game mechanics to coincide with other mechanics thus causing a feedback. Good example, cm poisons were tied into the code for maintenance on cities. Remember the fiasco a week back.


As far as you saying its not about you, well there were an awful lot of I's in there. And there you go, you want to make another profession take a bite just so you dont have too. Hence the withdrawal request of recursive macros. The removal of the recursive macro doesnt have any benefits other than to make a poor miserable bh who cant cut it not have to work so hard. Cry me a river, I said it once, I will say it again, if you cant cut it, quit the profession and try something else. If you dont want to quit, suck it up and deal with it.


And I never said anything about me on the recursive macros. Would I hate to see them go, he11 yes I would. And not for me, because anyone on my server will tell you I dont need to use them. IM one of the best smiths on my server and dont need the barker droids to get business. However, there are alot of newer smiths(crafters) who without these bonuses, would not be able to get a foothold on the crafter market. So see, your argument holds no water as I dont use them. But if it makes you feel special, go ahead and think that.







So, the afk macros that players set up so they can stand around in the MO all day spamming 'want to buy Maroj Melon' doesn't affect lag. I bow to your superior knowledge.


I see we are at the point where you say 'get another prof' again. Well done, powerful arguement.


Didn't you say in an earlier post that you did use barker droids? And the point about you being one of the 'best smiths on your server' is (a boast IMHO)? If so, why don't you set up a mall and allow the starting smiths to use it rent free, and advertise on the forums? You, as one of the best smiths on the server, would not doubt attract a lot of players and the new smiths would be exposed. Might take a little altruistic effort on your part, but hey, lets not go there.


You are still trying to be personal though, which does nothing but amuse me, belittle yourself, and furthers the 'discussion' not at all.







Go back and read. Never said I used em. I said merchants use them and that some jedi as well. And no its not a boast, its fact as there are 4 main smiths(1 sadly is leaving). Dont believe me, ask some of the combaters on the server. But anyway, back to the point. You specifically asked about reasons for it, one was given. You cant handle the fact someone called you up on it.


I see you are losing steam though as you too can not think of any reason to remove it other than to benefit yourself and every other bh that cant handle it. This recursive macros benefit everyone. From the buffbot doctors who help combat players in dant mo(yes they are returning), to the merchant who tries to sell their wares, to the entertainer bots who allow for inspiration buffs. These are but 3 examples of how recursive macros help the community. And your 1 argument for why they shouldnt be in, as you say, is lacking.


The fact is, when soe allowed people to respec into bh, it was a sad day for the game. When soe allowed respec as a whole, the heck with just bh. This is part of the reason for the state of the profession today. IM not sure who whines more, the jedi or the bh. I think I will leave it that for now.



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DarkStarRa
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:13 am
#333



They wouldn't have to get rid of macros or repeating macros even. Look at it like this.. Most every game watches for repetitive movements or paths like that and ban for 3rd party programs. Its pretty easy for them to see if someone is AFK macro's in a house or if someone is actually doing something useful.


All they really have to do is scan randomly for location and type of macro, find someone who is just AFK'ing to piss people off then boot them and continue scan lol.. And if it was Battle.net they would prob ban you from playing for 15 minutes or so... Ahh, happy to not be playing at bnet anymore.


DathylBran
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:45 am
#334






DarkStarRa wrote:



They wouldn't have to get rid of macros or repeating macros even. Look at it like this.. Most every game watches for repetitive movements or paths like that and ban for 3rd party programs. Its pretty easy for them to see if someone is AFK macro's in a house or if someone is actually doing something useful.


All they really have to do is scan randomly for location and type of macro, find someone who is just AFK'ing to piss people off then boot them and continue scan lol.. And if it was Battle.net they would prob ban you from playing for 15 minutes or so... Ahh, happy to not be playing at bnet anymore.







That would indeed be the perfect solution.




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Hass1234567
Mon Oct 17, 2005 5:02 am
#335






StormTroopercpt0 wrote:

Don't let the Jedi community Swindle you when you have an idea, Their just afraid that they won't be safe anymore by being AFK all day and night in their house or while cloaked thinking they are 'invulnerable' while on the bh terminals..



Seriously... don't give up.. something needs to be done with the people whom do it purposely to the BH and the many who dont support the idea is the majority who does it..



They clog the terms wasteing droid/food/time P.S







omg as a jedi and a bh this is silly. If I dont want to fight (for whatever reason) why should I have to leave or get teffed out? What obligations do I have to fight, its u who wants to kill me not the other way round.


I am more then happy to see something implemented that removes a name of som1 that is static or afk for a certain time period. its studid to think that som bh's think it acceptable or a good idea to to beable to attack while som1 is in a private structure. We can already bug jedi out with droids. if they r in a house leave them there or send them hate tells or somthing



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DathylBran
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:34 am
#336






freedomwarrior wrote:



Go back and read. Never said I used em.





I did. In message number 346 you said this "my merchant does quite often".








freedomwarrior wrote:


And no its not a boast, its fact as there are 4 main smiths(1 sadly is leaving). Dont believe me, ask some of the combaters on the server. But anyway, back to the point. You specifically asked about reasons for it, one was given. You cant handle the fact someone called you up on it.





It's not a case of don't believe you, it's simply a case of I don't care as it has no relevance. Unless of course you think that it somehow means your opinion carries more weight. Whichever, it's unecessary and indeed arrogant.


I can handle the reason, I see the reason for what you are saying, although it seems that you on the other hand are unable to deal with thefact that someones else point might have validity, hence you dismiss it and come out with all the tired old 'respec bh blah blah blah rubbish'.






freedomwarrior wrote:



I see you are losing steam though as you too can not think of any reason to remove it other than to benefit yourself and every other bh that cant handle it. This recursive macros benefit everyone. From the buffbot doctors who help combat players in dant mo(yes they are returning), to the merchant who tries to sell their wares, to the entertainer bots who allow for inspiration buffs. These are but 3 examples of how recursive macros help the community. And your 1 argument for why they shouldnt be in, as you say, is lacking.




Losing steam? LOL, not at all mate, I could go on with posts like yours all day, in fact I was thinking of starting a popcorn stand.


What it does tell me is that you are the kind of person who doesn't like the idea of losing an argument. Or indeed considering other peoples opinions.

You can saymy argument is lacking all day, that's the nature of an opinion.The whole AFK thingis something that hasbeen identified by the Devs in the past as a cause for concern. Merchants don't need barkers, we have vendor search.Spamming AFK players cause lag. Entertainers and Doctor buffbots are handy, but I would lose no sleep for the fact that there is a person behind the toon. I may not get a buff if theres no one on, but it would be a more immersive game and I for one would prefer that.







freedomwarrior wrote:


The fact is, when soe allowed people to respec into bh, it was a sad day for the game. When soe allowed respec as a whole, the heck with just bh. This is part of the reason for the state of the profession today. IM not sure who whines more, the jedi or the bh. I think I will leave it that for now.





There it is again, 'respec bh' lol. You really do have a problem with them don't you.


I bet you don't leave it at that, becasue people like you can't, you *need* the last word.





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DathylBran
Mon Oct 17, 2005 12:58 pm
#337






M4dC4t wrote:

Just like to say if you want a reason my Jedi will be found sitting in her house, I'll tell ya, normally when there is a internal problem in my guild and I will sit her there all day so I can read back on guild chat to see whats said, btw this does not happen that often and I normally try to use my alt. On another note I had to leave one day in a hurry was gone about 6 hours with my character in my house NOT RUNNING A MACRO she was still running when I got home this has also happened for longer periods of time as well. The mechanics of the game are missed up and SOE knows it problem is they would rather make money off an expansion instead of fixing problems, lol.


Hey I think this is my calmest post yet, maybe ther is hope of me turning into a nice person.





From what you say it's reasonable clear that you're not a 'house sitter', one of those people that do it simply to grief the BH class.


I can see what you mean about the guild chat, but then again it's also the responsibility of the guild leader to send out an e-mail of the 'minutes' (or whatever you want to call them) of guild issues. If it's significant, the guild leader calls a meeting and a time is arranged that is mutually convinient for the important people. Those who make their 'apologies' forfiet the right to have a say on the issue in the meeting or send written opinions in advance, it's how meetings work.


The leaving in a hurry/running thing, well indeed that is a game mechanic issue, and certainly doen't qualify as a 'house sitting' issue. But how fast do you need to leave that you can't quit the game?


I think it's a very calm post m8, with some sensible points and examples.




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Phazaar
Tue Oct 18, 2005 2:53 am
#338

OK, seeing as I cba to make my own thread this second, coz so many people have mentioned it on this post, I have a major, simple, and easily implimented suggestion!


I know nothing about the plans for the FRS when it is reintroduced, however, something I would like to see in it, which would hopefully stop youjedi that want something more to gain from BH combat than just respect and honour whining, would be BH participation in the FRS. Its really simple tbh. Just like jedi v jedi fighting gaining/losing jedi ranks, same goes for BH fighting. You undoubtably become a stronger jedi by beating BHs, so why should the FRS not reflect this? This way, a jedi would (hopefully) come out of their house orwhatever to fight the BH, because this way they can gain some nice friendly FRS points


Come on you jedi loving ******* get to flaming!!



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