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Thread: FEEDBACK: Jedi Missions No Longer Showing Player Name, or Bounty Payout

Daviepoo
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:37 am
#261


Maybe Tanks should be pushing for a different method of calculating mission payments.


We all know that currently the level of payment directly relates to the amount of skill points a jedi has spent, and therefore indirectly relating to the jedi's level. This has caused plenty of bottom feeding against jedi in certain ranges where they are unable to put up any sort of fight at all, which i believe is what the devs are trying to remove from the game, by removing the payment details from the terminals.


Surely it would make more sense if the payment was tied to the visibility of the jedi concerned. The more visible you are, the more wanted you are, therefore the higher the price on your head.


Visibility is already calculated by a number in the background, actions which cause visibility add to the number, once it passes a certain threshold the jedi is placed onto the terminals. This number can be related to the bounty quite easily with a very simple multiplier.


This will mean, those jedi who do *gasp* try and stay hidden off the terminals wouldn't be unduly punished for the occasional small mistake, but those who duel in the middle of theed will have a very large bounty on their heads.

Message Edited by Daviepoo on 07-06-2005 04:13 AM

Grimjakk
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:51 am
#262






meninus wrote:

Ahhhh - the sound of BHs weeping - I love it.


Maybe I get to have some fun with my jedi now. I hate PvP and this is the best news a jedi could have right now.









Ah... you do know that Jedi is considered a PvP class, yes?






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Spookibus
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:51 am
#263

Remove visibility caused by group members, and remove xp from Kashyyyk, and there's no reason to remove the names.


The terms would again be populated with the careless, the stupid, and those with completed templates--as was intended.



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CeboWookie
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:57 am
#264

Calm down BH's, it may not be as bad as you think. Some of you are whining just as bad as some Jedi where whining beforePatch 19.
I read some of you moaning about not seeing how much you gonna be payed for when accepting a mission. This is what the Patch notes said that where wrongly posted in the In Live Dev forums.
Profession: Bounty Hunter

NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout

You are prevented from determening the Jedi's level by looking at the mission payout on the terminal. Yes that means your gonna see how much you will earn but it also means that you don't know what level Jedi you are facing ! I guess it will be either be tha same ammount for every Jedi or a random generated one instead of the old formula ( Jedi skillpoints*1k).

Some of you are moaning that you wont ever see who your hunting......this is an assumption and nothing more. Yes, you wont be able to see the Jedi's name on the terminals but im sure the devs have thought about that, im pretty sure you'll get a name at some point so stop crying about something you don't know about yet.

Basically i as a Jedi with a BH alt like these changes, they will bring a much needed relief for young padawans and some much needed action for knights like myself. My point here is do not cry foul yet, wait for the official patch notes ( they might have more dtails ) and wait and see how things work out on TC and then if you don't like it, start complaining, not now when so many important details are unknown.






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DaveG
Wed Jul 06, 2005 3:59 am
#265

Simple way to get the Jedi name - Take a mission, follow your droid's directions, find a Jedi, write down their name.



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Grunzer
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:05 am
#266






RAMBOW wrote:

Im just reposting what I had posted in another thread about 2 weeks ago... needless to say if these terminal changes go live this game will loose atleast 1 long time BH. I will not hunt in a dumbed down version of BH.








Man, that's funny as hell. They add a challenge to the game and you talk about it being "dumbed down?" DOH!


The Bounty Hunter Profession isn't supposed to be easy. Get used to it.


BTW. Kash--Working as INTENDED.





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CeboWookie
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:13 am
#267



_Apache wrote:

CeboWookie...you seem to know more about what is going on than most of the people posting here. could you possibly post or send a link to the thread evryone is panicing about? I would like to very much like to see for myself.





Someone was able to copy paste the mistakenly posted ptch notes into the Jedi forums here




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Jaster_M
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:17 am
#268

*snip*

Full temps know they will more than likely wipe the floor with a BH 1 vs 1. Hell, I would get excited at the prospect of a 70+% chance of winning every time.

Respec BHs look for easy marks as they have little/no experience in hunting. Moving Jedi missions to Master will sort that out. I don't take anything less than 150k unless there's nothing else online.

That's too funny. Seriously. I have a MBH/MRifleman/4000 CM alt and I killed 4 full temp Jedi ALONE earlier today. Needed money to buy a new pearl since my last one tuned to crap. A full temp Jedi has no better chance of killing a BH than a new padawan who hasn't dropped TKM yet.



I think this is the funniest reply I've seen so far. So your basically saying all BH need this template to compete, and lets be honest...they do. So now the BH resorts to having to take the FOTM just to use the terminals effictively now? Thats junk. I shouldnt have to change my template just to know I can use the terminals. If there going to put a BH up against a full template 1 vs 1 then ALL MBH templates need to have an even chance of winning across the board. Otherwise just remove the terminals and BH from the game totally.



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Vitnir2
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:36 am
#269

If we got a way to track on Kashyyyk again (at least let us know which map it is) I dont realy see how this would negatively affect my gameplay, the time it takes to look through all instances on Rryatt is almost the same as clicking for 30min trying to find a particular jedi who even might be recently killed so he isnt even on the terms. If they threw in a way to share the mission with another BH (over a certain level like knight) it would be an improvement over today as the time it takes for the same mission to pop up today is too long for a mark that is probably on Kashyyyk or afk.
From a RP point of view it would make sense to me as I'm not out on a personal vendetta, I just got hired by a client who wants someone dead. Sometimes the client knows who killed his father or whatever but maybe there was only a DNA sample sufficient for a biosignal available.
_Apache
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:36 am
#270

This is what everyone is all upset about???




NPC Bounty missions will now work properly. The Mark will now be of appropriate difficulty based on the difficulty of the mission
Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Master Bounty Hunter skill Box
Bounty Hunter Jedi missions (1) no longer list Jedi names and (2) prevent you from determining Jedi’s level via mission payout


1) Moved Player Bounty Hunting to the Mater BH box....save that one till later.


2) Missions no longer list names........Ok, so what. It doesnt say that BH will NEVER get the name of thier marks, it says that Jedi names will not be "listed". There is a difference. Could still be a serious problem concerning Kashyyk though.


3) Prevent BH from determining Jedi's level via mission payout,.......Nowhere does it say that "Pay Outs" are going to be removed. Varied, sure. A BH may just get lucky with a Padawan fresh out of the village and a nice 200k pay out.


1) Back to issue #1....the only thing I see wrong with this is the reduction of active Jedi Hunters. Alot of BH are"Dabblers" andonly have Inv 3, and the rest of the skill points are put into a customized Jedi fighting Template. You limit that, and you limit the effectiveness of Bounty Hunters vs the Dabbler Jedi.


Issue #1 is my personal concern....the rest can be worked out. Maybe.




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Arsani
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:51 am
#271

Only good I can see coming from this? I won't have to deal with that annoying respec box popping up anymore, because I'll use the sucker.



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Bossov
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:53 am
#272

I'll just be nice and put it like this...the idea sucks. FIX the system, don't scrap it for a Jedi country club system.



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ShozaSunwalker
Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:58 am
#273

I have absolutely no problem with them removing Player Name or Bounty Payout from the terminals. It will bring back the thrill of the hunt, not knowing if you have a full temp target or a youngling to kill until you start the fight. I'm sure full template Jedi are looking forward to this, they might get a fight once in a while. Player names the terminals was often just used to grief or to hold jedi friend missions, the changes will make it hard for a guild to help their jedi grind by taking all 5 of their missions.





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