Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunter Private Shuttles...
A-Slave wrote:
(...)This isnt about "jedi vs bounty hunters"...this isnt about anything but making the GAME more fun and less frusterating.
... says the one who sets others back in their character advancement by a couple hundred thousand xp. Sorry, no sympathy there from me.
And yes, it is about BH / Jedi. As you correctly mentioned above, limiting a BHs mobility makes it harder and more time-consuming for a BH to find his mark and easier for his mark to escape. Harder and more time-involving missions mean less Jedi killed over any given period of time, which means protection of the Jedi population. Most bounty hunters hunt only one faction, so this is directly related to preserving GCW strength, also.
I have been on both sides of the /cityban.
Whilst grinding jedi we banned bh's that hunted our jedi for the simple fact that they couldnt enter our town buildings again, clone, use facilities, shuttle after a fleeing jedi, but mostley because it would take the bh longer to get to his mark.
Now i dont play jedi my main profession is bh and being banned by half the cities on chimeara doesnt bother me 1 bit because i understand the resoning behind it...... they are just protecting their own.
Easy way round is just find the nearest shuttle you can use.
Would be good to fly a ship in though for private use 
mo-jo
(over 120 post cu jedi kills)
2 notes to DEVS:
1.
delete player-city shuttles -> problem solved.
jedi stay in their little corner as travelling is a waste of time (and XP) so they dont bother anyone.
2.
create a unbreakable wall around each jedi-'city' (city=just a pile of houses in a field) ;
place every jedi that lives in that city between those walls and create 1 nuna-lair which respawns every time.
that way they can level with macro's and show off between those walls during their SWG grindcareer.
eskie wrote:
Seriously, if you attack residents of a city expect the city militia to ban you. Its nothing different from entering an opposing faction stronghold to faction-farm their bases as combatant.
You knew you would make enemies when you became BH, yet you chose to become BH. Enjoy the scenery while riding your speeder.
Apart from that, using a shuttle to enter a city that you are banned from is exploiting. All public services are denied, that includes departures and arrivals to the shuttleport.
If you put a base inside your city, you in essence turn your city into a battleground. Hencefourth you should lose the ability to ban ppl from the city as this hampers the Galatic civil war. I agree with the fact that ppl shouldn't attack bases unless they are Special Forces, but a quick fix for that would be to make the entryway block out all who aren't SF, like they do when you are on a speeder. I believe that jedi as with any other character should have safe havens but city bans are taking it too far. As for the the shuttle idea, if they ever give us atmospheric flight on our ships with the ability to touchdown and store that would be better. But that would give the jedi the same method of escape. I'm sure call timers and no-call-during-combat would come into play, but think of the fun in a space chase. They are on a whole different playing field in space w/o force powers. Either way, the best gift they could give a BH imo is a personal radar cloaking device. Radar is a BH's worst enemy.
JBCrichton wrote:
eskie wrote:Seriously, if you attack residents of a city expect the city militia to ban you. Its nothing different from entering an opposing faction stronghold to faction-farm their bases as combatant.
You knew you would make enemies when you became BH, yet you chose to become BH. Enjoy the scenery while riding your speeder.
Apart from that, using a shuttle to enter a city that you are banned from is exploiting. All public services are denied, that includes departures and arrivals to the shuttleport.
If you put a base inside your city, you in essence turn your city into a battleground. Hencefourth you should lose the ability to ban ppl from the city as this hampers the Galatic civil war. I agree with the fact that ppl shouldn't attack bases unless they are Special Forces, but a quick fix for that would be to make the entryway block out all who aren't SF, like they do when you are on a speeder. I believe that jedi as with any other character should have safe havens but city bans are taking it too far. As for the the shuttle idea, if they ever give us atmospheric flight on our ships with the ability to touchdown and store that would be better. But that would give the jedi the same method of escape. I'm sure call timers and no-call-during-combat would come into play, but think of the fun in a space chase. They are on a whole different playing field in space w/o force powers. Either way, the best gift they could give a BH imo is a personal radar cloaking device. Radar is a BH's worst enemy.
I want to comment on two things:
- City-banning opposing faction is perfectly legit, especially if it happens to combatants farming PvE bases. Its a way of protecting the PvE base. How is it hindering GCW? SF players about to take down SF bases will still ride in on speeders. More than likely, SF people will not enter through the shuttle since that would be a recipe for being load-killed.
- Attacking a PvE base as combatant is also perfectly valid. Its PvE content attacked by PvE players. Thats why you get PvE bases for free when you purchase a PvP base, so providing that PvE content doesnt cost anything.
- I am opposed to a "private shuttle" idea just for MBH, especially if its intended use is to be a detour around city bans. Either everybody is able to land their spaceship anywhere on any planet, or nobody gets special travelling treatment.
Eskie Wrote:
I want to comment on two things:
- City-banning opposing faction is perfectly legit, especially if it happens to combatants farming PvE bases. Its a way of protecting the PvE base. How is it hindering GCW? SF players about to take down SF bases will still ride in on speeders. More than likely, SF people will not enter through the shuttle since that would be a recipe for being load-killed.
- Attacking a PvE base as combatant is also perfectly valid. Its PvE content attacked by PvE players. Thats why you get PvE bases for free when you purchase a PvP base, so providing that PvE content doesnt cost anything.
- I am opposed to a "private shuttle" idea just for MBH, especially if its intended use is to be a detour around city bans. Either everybody is able to land their spaceship anywhere on any planet, or nobody gets special travelling treatment.
/agree, all good points.
I was mistaken on the type of base you were referring to. Although i don't believe you should make your home a battlefield by bringing in a base, but that's just me. I don't belong to any city anyway, lol. I believe in the solitary life of a BH. And i have to agree that a city doesn't have to offer it's hard earned services to players they don't like. There should be more of a limit to the ammount of player cities per planet cause traveling can be annoying on speeder running into houses and getting stuck while you get yourself a Coke out of the fridge. And most planets have core cities scattered around enough to assist in getting you close enough to travel quickly by speeder. But once again, all good points. I wouldn't use registered transport to get that close to a mark or a base anyway, but then again i'm neutral and i hunt npc's so as of yet i'm not on any ban list anyway.
Ulrek_Oden wrote:Frankly I think the whole banning of players from a city is wrong... and never should have been put into the game... When you think about it it is the ultimate 'grief'.Banning a player from a city is done purely to inconvenience that player and take away from their gameplay.
By that reasoning, you declaring your house as private is griefing, also.
A city is a community, and that community pays for the public services offered. If the community feels you are not worthy of those services, they have every right to ban you since its their money.
Being city-banned does not exclude you from any game content, it just is inconveniencing you. And coming from a BH the term "takes away from gameplay" is laughable at best.
Message Edited by Eskie on 10-25-2005 02:26 PM