Bounty Hunter Archive

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FettandhisVett wrote:

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Djena wrote:
If you kill me when I'm not afk, it's ok. Every dirty trick is allowed (as long as it isn't an exploit), I used to use them myself

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your mistake for going afk where a BH could kill you...I love afks, its like finding a 20 on the sidewalk.

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I know, but sometimes I need a bio break like any normal humanbeing

I won't flame the BH for killing me when it happens though, just tell him that I had loved to have been there.

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Djena wrote:

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FettandhisVett wrote:

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Djena wrote:
If you kill me when I'm not afk, it's ok. Every dirty trick is allowed (as long as it isn't an exploit), I used to use them myself

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your mistake for going afk where a BH could kill you...I love afks, its like finding a 20 on the sidewalk.

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I know, but sometimes I need a bio break like any normal humanbeing

I won't flame the BH for killing me when it happens though, just tell him that I had loved to have been there.

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Yeah, you and none of the other jedi lol

And dont you know EVERYONE plays with a catheter?

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FettandhisVett wrote:

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Djena wrote:

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FettandhisVett wrote:

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Djena wrote:
If you kill me when I'm not afk, it's ok. Every dirty trick is allowed (as long as it isn't an exploit), I used to use them myself

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your mistake for going afk where a BH could kill you...I love afks, its like finding a 20 on the sidewalk.

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I know, but sometimes I need a bio break like any normal humanbeing

I won't flame the BH for killing me when it happens though, just tell him that I had loved to have been there.

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And dont you know EVERYONE plays with a catheter?

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I'm afraid of needles

just get on with killing the paddies! so what if theyre weaker and we are 'noobs'. Theyll just grow up into master defenders and act like an ass.

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salieri90909 wrote:

just get on with killing the paddies! so what if theyre weaker and we are 'noobs'. Theyll just grow up into master defenders and act like an ass.

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They arent asses as paddies? wounder what server your on.

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FettandhisVett wrote:

NO YOURE WRONG, BH CONSTANTLY GO IN GROUPS OF 5 TO HUNT PADDIES THAT UNLOCKED 3 SECONDS AGO!!! I SEE IT EVERY 5 MINS RIGHT INFRONT OF ME!!

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DJ100 wrote:

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FettandhisVett wrote:

NO YOURE WRONG, BH CONSTANTLY GO IN GROUPS OF 5 TO HUNT PADDIES THAT UNLOCKED 3 SECONDS AGO!!! I SEE IT EVERY 5 MINS RIGHT INFRONT OF ME!!

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provide screenshot or stop telling tales.

Im a BH and a Jedi never seen it, NEVER.

And even if it happend once or twice it can hardly be something to take into account.

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I have to agree, as a 120k jedi-hybrid, I'm right in the middle of BH favorite pricerange. Only once did I have 2 BHs on me so far, my own fault as I went to Kaadara to 'help' a friend test something (him having my bounty). Another BH wasn't just going to let me get away and I can't blame him.

/addignore jedi.

Sorry, but I'm a MEAN MEAN GRIEFER WHO IS GONNA GET TOLD ON TO MOMMY. I like hunting Paddies, and I ONLY hunt paddies. Does this make me a bad person? Yes, of course. I like griefing. Don't remove jedi from the game, and don't nerf them more.

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Niccolado wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
I've recently been wondering...under WHAT condition is it "okay" in the eyes of the Jedi communiyt for a Jedi to be killed?

If, as a BH, we kill a Padawan, we are "bottom feeding" and picking on "weak" Jedi in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH group, we kill a Jedi, we are being unfair in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH, we attack a Jedi that is already in combat we are "a weak BH with no honor" (YES, I have been told this more then once), and if given the chance to fight when the Jedi is "prepared", we would lose.

If, as a BH, we kill a Jedi in a 1 vs 1 fight wherein both the Jedi AND the Bounty Hunter were prepared, then we are overpowered.


Is it EVER "okay" that a Bounty Hunter kills a Jedi?

Can anyone seriously answer this question? It would seem as though, even when we win, we cannot "win".

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First I would like to add that its never ok to die. Dying Defeats purpose, so thats not an option.

Now, If this should really be the case. When is it "ok" for a jedi to Die:

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In my opinion its ok to die when you are bottom feeding. The problem is Jedi is loosing much more then he can gain in his current situation. As a Novice Jedi he cant protect himself. and its like hunting "younglings"; Defenceless creatures, who show no resistance. Except from that they are very good at running. any novice jedi can handle dying 1 or 2 times a day to a BH. The problem is when you start dying like 5-10 times a day. So its not the death itself that bothers most jedi. Its the numbers of death.

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Gank Groups in also very much imbalanced, since most jedi cant stand up to handle 5 BHs. 5 BHs that all shoot like Root, of sniper shot etc. cant win. And thats not what the Jedi or SOE wants. We want to have a chance, but dont have it against a root/snipershot gank group. And definitely not with all the current nerfs we have had. Any fulltemplate can live with such a loss, but we the jedi cant see the "point" since we have lost before the fight start. and thats not the point. Jedi and BH should have equal chances. In gank groups this is very difficult, unless the BHs are rather very stupid and n00by.

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You write that jedi call you weak if you attack jedi while killing other critters, and using that to your gain. Well. In my opinion, this is a kill any BH should strive for. BHs uses any chance to bring down their enemy. jedi might call you weak. I might have done it myself. but im sure when I have calmed down and pondered the situation a little. This is just a perfect kill for a BH. No. This is a OK kill. I would hate getting killed ofcource. But at least you killed the jedi "fair" and not bottom feeding or using gank groups.

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you write that if a Jedi loose to you in 1 vs 1 fight, jedi would consider you owerpowered. LOL.... well, BHs have some very good attacks. Root is a little too bad atm. but besides that most your skills are acceptable. I cant at this time, see you are overpowered anyway. But jedi is not used to loose more then you, so a certain number of complaints you will have to expect. But if you are fighting a open 1 vs 1 fight with a full template jedi, and you win. I would congratulate you, and I would note your name for later use in case you are coming for me

Most jedi are as most BHers not good "loosers" in PvP. Be it fair or not. When a BH comes lurking in and disrupting the jedi in his chores, and then at the same time kills him, this is what you have to expect. However, there are some valid complaints from the jedi against BHs that have been fair - and ofcource the other way. I personally think that the coming publish will fix a lot of it.

Message Edited by Niccolado on 07-11-2005 07:19 AM

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First off, this is a well written responce to a joke thread. I disagree with some of the points, but it is much appriciated.

1) I disagree here. New Padawans have more power than they think. They still have their skills from before. I can't tell you how many low level fights could have been different if a new paddy put away the lightsaber and broke out his blaster. I had a guildie do that to a BH. He was a TK and went Bruce Lee on him. The BH ran in confusion. The new Paddies are weak arguement is very weak. They may be weak as Jedi, but they have plenty of combat moxie. The exception is the crafter. You just have to take it and die

2) Getting a gank group of 3 is hard, 5 is near impossible. First off, do you know how the BH terms work? I pull up the mission list and a RANDOM sampling of jedi plus npc missions comes up. RANDOM, with 4 Jedi listed max, and frquently no player Jedi showing. If you are on the terms there are a max of 5 missions for you. One group of 5 BH pulling your mission is near impossible. The BH group is competeting with other BH to grab your mission, as well as the random nature of the terms. Plus, for Kights and near-Kights, we need a group. Quite frankly, this should be the case. But to put this all in perspective, a group of my buddies couldn't get the same Jedi mission in an hour of searching. Gank groups of 5 are RARE. Trotting this rarity out for arguement is a disservice.

3) This is my favorite tactic in the world. Completely fair and it gives us the greatest advantage. To all BH: When you have your mark in this situation, don't ruin it by opening up with a root or KD. The animations let them know right off the bat that they are under attack. Hit them with a couple of high damage attacks. If they start to move, turn, etc then hit them with the roots/KDs.

4) I think the comming publish is designed to setup BH as fodder for the upcomming FRS system. We'll be clashing 1v1 against full templates, which should beat us far more often than not.

Message Edited by Banzai51 on 07-11-2005 09:35 AM

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PrObLeMs wrote:
/addignore jedi.

Sorry, but I'm a MEAN MEAN GRIEFER WHO IS GONNA GET TOLD ON TO MOMMY. I like hunting Paddies, and I ONLY hunt paddies. Does this make me a bad person? Yes, of course. I like griefing. Don't remove jedi from the game, and don't nerf them more.

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Ohh yeah, i forgot how dark side jedi can be evil and get light side solo jedi vis with force cloak.

But a BH cant be evil and hunt the young paddies...ohh no, that would be so wrong.

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FettandhisVett wrote:

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PrObLeMs wrote:
/addignore jedi.

Sorry, but I'm a MEAN MEAN GRIEFER WHO IS GONNA GET TOLD ON TO MOMMY. I like hunting Paddies, and I ONLY hunt paddies. Does this make me a bad person? Yes, of course. I like griefing. Don't remove jedi from the game, and don't nerf them more.

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Ohh yeah, i forgot how dark side jedi can be evil and get light side solo jedi vis with force cloak.

But a BH cant be evil and hunt the young paddies...ohh no, that would be so wrong.

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Pffft, you're doing them a favor, they're of the terms when they die, if they are dumb enough to get back on them... (Yes, I'm a jedi. Yes, I did grind and got hunted/killed. No I didn't go to Kashyyyk, didn't have the money to buy it until just before I finished what I had in mind.)

I am currently a padawan. I have spent much time after my unlock grinding out a template that would give me enough pvp skills to survive a 1 on 1 encounter with a BH. I have also spent a lot of time toying around with a template builder program so I can map out how and when to learn or drop skills, in an effort to always be strong enough to fight BHs. Basically put, I've put in the effort before grinding so that I don't have to come whine on the forums about being killed. If a BH or group of BHs manage to kill me, then congrats to them. Jedi padawans don't EVER have to be weaker than a BH, they just choose to be by their own laziness or lack of understanding of the game.

With all that said, I think it is always ok whenever a BH kills a Jedi, regardless of the tactics used. Of course I'd be upset if I got killed and lost a ton of xp, but thats just part of the game. BHs are meant to be a population control mechanism, and they are doing their job well.