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I've recently been wondering...under WHAT condition is it "okay" in the eyes of the Jedi communiyt for a Jedi to be killed?

If, as a BH, we kill a Padawan, we are "bottom feeding" and picking on "weak" Jedi in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH group, we kill a Jedi, we are being unfair in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH, we attack a Jedi that is already in combat we are "a weak BH with no honor" (YES, I have been told this more then once), and if given the chance to fight when the Jedi is "prepared", we would lose.

If, as a BH, we kill a Jedi in a 1 vs 1 fight wherein both the Jedi AND the Bounty Hunter were prepared, then we are overpowered.


Is it EVER "okay" that a Bounty Hunter kills a Jedi?

Can anyone seriously answer this question? It would seem as though, even when we win, we cannot "win".

No. There will always be an exploit, or griefing. You can't win.

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Tucheck wrote:
I've recently been wondering...under WHAT condition is it "okay" in the eyes of the Jedi communiyt for a Jedi to be killed?

If, as a BH, we kill a Padawan, we are "bottom feeding" and picking on "weak" Jedi in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH group, we kill a Jedi, we are being unfair in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH, we attack a Jedi that is already in combat we are "a weak BH with no honor" (YES, I have been told this more then once), and if given the chance to fight when the Jedi is "prepared", we would lose.

If, as a BH, we kill a Jedi in a 1 vs 1 fight wherein both the Jedi AND the Bounty Hunter were prepared, then we are overpowered.


Is it EVER "okay" that a Bounty Hunter kills a Jedi?

Can anyone seriously answer this question? It would seem as though, even when we win, we cannot "win".

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First I would like to add that its never ok to die. Dying Defeats purpose, so thats not an option.

Now, If this should really be the case. When is it "ok" for a jedi to Die:

1.)
In my opinion its ok to die when you are bottom feeding. The problem is Jedi is loosing much more then he can gain in his current situation. As a Novice Jedi he cant protect himself. and its like hunting "younglings"; Defenceless creatures, who show no resistance. Except from that they are very good at running. any novice jedi can handle dying 1 or 2 times a day to a BH. The problem is when you start dying like 5-10 times a day. So its not the death itself that bothers most jedi. Its the numbers of death.

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Gank Groups in also very much imbalanced, since most jedi cant stand up to handle 5 BHs. 5 BHs that all shoot like Root, of sniper shot etc. cant win. And thats not what the Jedi or SOE wants. We want to have a chance, but dont have it against a root/snipershot gank group. And definitely not with all the current nerfs we have had. Any fulltemplate can live with such a loss, but we the jedi cant see the "point" since we have lost before the fight start. and thats not the point. Jedi and BH should have equal chances. In gank groups this is very difficult, unless the BHs are rather very stupid and n00by.

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You write that jedi call you weak if you attack jedi while killing other critters, and using that to your gain. Well. In my opinion, this is a kill any BH should strive for. BHs uses any chance to bring down their enemy. jedi might call you weak. I might have done it myself. but im sure when I have calmed down and pondered the situation a little. This is just a perfect kill for a BH. No. This is a OK kill. I would hate getting killed ofcource. But at least you killed the jedi "fair" and not bottom feeding or using gank groups.

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you write that if a Jedi loose to you in 1 vs 1 fight, jedi would consider you owerpowered. LOL.... well, BHs have some very good attacks. Root is a little too bad atm. but besides that most your skills are acceptable. I cant at this time, see you are overpowered anyway. But jedi is not used to loose more then you, so a certain number of complaints you will have to expect. But if you are fighting a open 1 vs 1 fight with a full template jedi, and you win. I would congratulate you, and I would note your name for later use in case you are coming for me

Most jedi are as most BHers not good "loosers" in PvP. Be it fair or not. When a BH comes lurking in and disrupting the jedi in his chores, and then at the same time kills him, this is what you have to expect. However, there are some valid complaints from the jedi against BHs that have been fair - and ofcource the other way. I personally think that the coming publish will fix a lot of it.

Message Edited by Niccolado on 07-11-2005 07:19 AM

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Niccolado wrote:

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Tucheck wrote:
I've recently been wondering...under WHAT condition is it "okay" in the eyes of the Jedi communiyt for a Jedi to be killed?

If, as a BH, we kill a Padawan, we are "bottom feeding" and picking on "weak" Jedi in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH group, we kill a Jedi, we are being unfair in an effort to grieve.

If, as a BH, we attack a Jedi that is already in combat we are "a weak BH with no honor" (YES, I have been told this more then once), and if given the chance to fight when the Jedi is "prepared", we would lose.

If, as a BH, we kill a Jedi in a 1 vs 1 fight wherein both the Jedi AND the Bounty Hunter were prepared, then we are overpowered.


Is it EVER "okay" that a Bounty Hunter kills a Jedi?

Can anyone seriously answer this question? It would seem as though, even when we win, we cannot "win".

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First I would like to add that its never ok to die. Dying Defeats purpose, so thats not an option.

Now, If this should really be the case. When is it "ok" for a jedi to Die:

1.)
In my opinion its ok to die when you are bottom feeding. The problem is Jedi is loosing much more then he can gain in his current situation. As a Novice Jedi he cant protect himself. and its like hunting "younglings"; Defenceless creatures, who show no resistance. Except from that they are very good at running. any novice jedi can handle dying 1 or 2 times a day to a BH. The problem is when you start dying like 5-10 times a day. So its not the death itself that bothers most jedi. Its the numbers of death.

2.)
Gank Groups in also very much imbalanced, since most jedi cant stand up to handle 5 BHs. 5 BHs that all shoot like Root, of sniper shot etc. cant win. And thats not what the Jedi or SOE wants. We want to have a chance, but dont have it against a root/snipershot gank group. And definitely not with all the current nerfs we have had. Any fulltemplate can live with such a loss, but we the jedi cant see the "point" since we have lost before the fight start. and thats not the point. Jedi and BH should have equal chances. In gank groups this is very difficult, unless the BHs are rather very stupid and n00by.

3.)
You write that jedi call you weak if you attack jedi while killing other critters, and using that to your gain. Well. In my opinion, this is a kill any BH should strive for. BHs uses any chance to bring down their enemy. jedi might call you weak. I might have done it myself. but im sure when I have calmed down and pondered the situation a little. This is just a perfect kill for a BH. No. This is a OK kill. I would hate getting killed ofcource. But at least you killed the jedi "fair" and not bottom feeding or using gank groups.

4.)
you write that if a Jedi loose to you in 1 vs 1 fight, jedi would consider you owerpowered. LOL.... well, BHs have some very good attacks. Root is a little too bad atm. but besides that most your skills are acceptable. I cant at this time, see you are overpowered anyway. But jedi is not used to loose more then you, so a certain number of complaints you will have to expect. But if you are fighting a open 1 vs 1 fight with a full template jedi, and you win. I would congratulate you, and I would note your name for later use in case you are coming for me

Most jedi are as most BHers not good "loosers" in PvP. Be it fair or not. When a BH comes lurking in and disrupting the jedi in his chores, and then at the same time kills him, this is what you have to expect. However, there are some valid complaints from the jedi against BHs that have been fair - and ofcource the other way. I personally think that the coming publish will fix a lot of it.

Message Edited by Niccolado on 07-11-2005 07:19 AM

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Wow, that was an extremely polite and thoughtfull post, thanks for that Niccolado.

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FettandhisVett wrote:

Wait, jedi can die?! the guy on ebay told me jedi never die!!! I'VE BEEN RIPPED OFF!!

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Sue Him!

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novafluxx wrote:
Its never ok to kill them!! How dare you!

The only way to balance this out is to delete Jedi or BH from the game. One or the other... (I'm betting BH would go bye bye first)

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without jedi baiting people into this game, no one would play it....without me being able to hunt em in some reasonable manner, id quit too.

If you kill me when I'm not afk, it's ok. Every dirty trick is allowed (as long as it isn't an exploit), I used to use them myself