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Thread: how do you fight mdefenders?

Maxil
Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:55 pm
#14

well a tell-tale sign is if he uses AI, but that's pretty rare nowadays.

You can judge by the armor absorbtion though, as the total innate armor a mdef will have is +60 (that's after padawan granted innate) Innate armor is granted through the XX// boxes. Aura is in the //X/ box, and valor is in the ///X box. So if he uses Aura, Valor, and has the armor absorbtion equal to about 6000 armor, he's more than likely mdef



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EnderLucy
Sun Oct 30, 2005 9:28 pm
#15

Well thats an inconveince.

syykodisco
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:26 pm
#16






imoortalknight wrote:

kinda hard when ab slice is bugged and they hit you for 600, and you can't even land a knockdown





Wow, I don't even have or use AB and I hit around 600 all the time. You must really need a better armor. There are ways to beat us, you just gotta learn how we use our skills and build a template to counter ours.



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TheMonkeyDude
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:42 pm
#17






NoStyleGuy wrote:





Jedi1006 wrote:
Well im Mls/Mdef/healer4040 and i have a 600 mod dps saber/ 98 sac/ 16 fcand to say the least i havnt been killed since full temp. I heal maybe twice or 3 times during a fightwith combat medics and rifleman/carb/pistol etc etc (sometimes i have 2 or 3 bh showup)...maybe the bh just suck but all i do is rotate between valor and aura and i get hit maybe 1/10 or 2/10 times for 60-150 damage and i have infusion on so i get right back on par. My force never runs out and my mind doesnt drain fast enough. I also have avoid incap for the dirty situation which i have yet to encounter.Having force saphelps greatly against cmas they go down quickly. My defense gets so high with pikatta pie, ranged defense food, booster blue, and mandowinecombined with aura and valor at the same time that i had a friend test sniper shot on me with a legendary t21 and he hit me for 710 damage...mdef is great if u know how to play your template. I lovePvP now and like SWG in general haha. Its all about tactics and wise use of skills.





And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...





THat 710 dmg on any non-def would = 4k+ dmg.


And i thought bh's were smart......


TheMonkeyDude
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:46 pm
#18






Nacoa wrote:





NoStyleGuy wrote:
And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...





That's 'cause they can't find the "I WIN!!!" button.





And all the non-jedi are complainging because they can't beat the jedi who wonders why his mouse doesn't squeek when he clicks or eat the cheese he puts out every night.


Last i checked there's 4 other disciplines, not just defender.


I get hit 800-1250 dmg on just about every ranged dmg speciel and sniper shot can do 2k+ to me, jedi do similar dmg and i can still beat defenders.


Armor break must be murder cause all i got is my lame +20 inate armor to take on defenders and i can win sometimes.


Cpl_Fisher
Sun Oct 30, 2005 10:57 pm
#19

Dots bypass defense



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GEnHpwnS
Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:00 pm
#20






Cpl_Fisher wrote:
Dots bypass defense






QFE


Fire and poison kepe them using force by healing the dots. It's the most efficient way to kill a mdef.









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imoortalknight
Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:11 pm
#21

ok another question. in order to get mcm i have to drop rifles from 4004 to 4000. is mcm gonna help me replace the dmg?
Fugitron
Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:20 pm
#22

If a MDEF has a Focused Crystal for Health they can channel and stand there for two hours without worry. As a MDEF I can safely say that unless I am KD (with the KD bug)or caught without Aura, Infusion and/or Valoron a steady cycle I will not sustain enough damage to even get my health down to 3/4 (with health crystal, 1/2 health without).


Now, since the FOTM BH is a MCM all one needs to do is obtain Rancor Aid and your snare is worthless. The snare I can give to a BH cannot be bypassed, but it also does not last as long.


Now, that was all the benefits of MDEF, but let it be known that MDEF especially now is NOT FOTM anymore so the odds of you encountering them is getting slimmer.










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Cpl_Fisher
Sun Oct 30, 2005 11:33 pm
#23






Fugitron wrote:

If a MDEF has a Focused Crystal for Health they can channel and stand there for two hours without worry. As a MDEF I can safely say that unless I am KD (with the KD bug)or caught without Aura, Infusion and/or Valoron a steady cycle I will not sustain enough damage to even get my health down to 3/4 (with health crystal, 1/2 health without).


Now, since the FOTM BH is a MCM all one needs to do is obtain Rancor Aid and your snare is worthless. The snare I can give to a BH cannot be bypassed, but it also does not last as long.


Now, that was all the benefits of MDEF, but let it be known that MDEF especially now is NOT FOTM anymore so the odds of you encountering them is getting slimmer.







Rancor aid don't do jack to crippling shot lol, or you could go the sneaky route and use a daze on them to prevent aura from being reapplied, then a nice kd or high damage shot. even if you have a health buff crystal, 2 hours? that's a short fight lol. i've had 5+ hour fights across most of naboo, on foot, no shuttleing.



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Nacoa
Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:02 am
#24



TheMonkeyDude wrote:


Nacoa wrote:


NoStyleGuy wrote:
And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...



That's 'cause they can't find the "I WIN!!!" button.


And all the non-jedi are complainging because they can't beat the jedi who wonders why his mouse doesn't squeek when he clicks or eat the cheese he puts out every night.




No, you misunderstand me. The complaining non-Jedi are complaining because they can't find the "I WIN!!!!" button either.





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MysteryScout
Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:43 am
#25

Ok lets say a MDef, has just finished dueling someone and is sitting down chatting about it, With 150 hp left. Now I tried shooting him twice and missed both times, As a MCM/MBH pistols x3x1, should I have used my medical attacks instead on him in this situation?.






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RingSting_IOM
Mon Oct 31, 2005 3:14 am
#26

I dueld a jedi yesterday for a bit of fun


Im MBH and MPistols


I got a bit of space between us


used stopping shot - missed


used underhand shot - missed


by this point im rooted


used Eye Shot - missed


Try to keep healed cos im getting hit for 600-1200 dmg with 7600 armour on then im dead its about 15 seconds


Granted I didnt use food - but niether did he


There is literally no case for Jedi saying they are underpowered maybe pre CU sabres kill you faster but the post CU ones still get you eventually. Our damage is more borked by the fact we cant even hit you.





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