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Thread: how do you fight mdefenders?
imoortalknight wrote:
kinda hard when ab slice is bugged and they hit you for 600, and you can't even land a knockdown
how're you only getting hit 600. i get hit 1200 now on power hit
Mythrindir wrote:
imoortalknight wrote:
kinda hard when ab slice is bugged and they hit you for 600, and you can't even land a knockdown
how're you only getting hit 600. i get hit 1200 now on power hit
pre-cu saber > post cu
lightsaber > defender
Back to topic..... Just try not to die and eventually they will run out of force and they wont be able to use aura/valor any more...and then you will hit them for lots of damage
Marssk wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
imoortalknight wrote:
kinda hard when ab slice is bugged and they hit you for 600, and you can't even land a knockdown
how're you only getting hit 600. i get hit 1200 now on power hit
pre-cu saber > post cu
lightsaber > defender
Back to topic..... Just try not to die and eventually they will run out of force and they wont be able to use aura/valor any more...and then you will hit them for lots of damage
mls/mdef
lol sorry i am easily distracted /sits in corner
Mythrindir wrote:
Marssk wrote:
Mythrindir wrote:
imoortalknight wrote:
kinda hard when ab slice is bugged and they hit you for 600, and you can't even land a knockdown
how're you only getting hit 600. i get hit 1200 now on power hit
pre-cu saber > post cu
lightsaber > defender
Back to topic..... Just try not to die and eventually they will run out of force and they wont be able to use aura/valor any more...and then you will hit them for lots of damage
mls/mdef
lol sorry i am easily distracted /sits in corner
thats not the point! lol
Jedi1006 wrote:
Well im Mls/Mdef/healer4040 and i have a 600 mod dps saber/ 98 sac/ 16 fc and to say the least i havnt been killed since full temp. I heal maybe twice or 3 times during a fight with combat medics and rifleman/carb/pistol etc etc (sometimes i have 2 or 3 bh showup)...maybe the bh just suck but all i do is rotate between valor and aura and i get hit maybe 1/10 or 2/10 times for 60-150 damage and i have infusion on so i get right back on par. My force never runs out and my mind doesnt drain fast enough. I also have avoid incap for the dirty situation which i have yet to encounter. Having force sap helps greatly against cm as they go down quickly. My defense gets so high with pikatta pie, ranged defense food, booster blue, and mando wine combined with aura and valor at the same time that i had a friend test sniper shot on me with a legendary t21 and he hit me for 710 damage...mdef is great if u know how to play your template. I love PvP now and like SWG in general haha. Its all about tactics and wise use of skills.
From one jedi to another, I want to tell you that you take the food for your melee type.. Ranged def foods don't help against ranged attackers if you are melee, your attack type food covers both ranged and defense. (when I see bh take melee food I crack up...) Check out the sticky in our forum... nvm I'll post it here
Baciacca wrote:
Taken from the Chef Boards...
RegenEdnolb wrote:
I've done some more quick testing of Vegaparsine and Thundercloud.
Vegaparsine (+100 Melee defense)
Elshandruu Pica Thundercloud (+100 Ranged defense)-Offense: Someone with 236 accuracy when shooting with ranged shot (using a rifle)
-Defense: Someone with base defense of: 169 melee and 244 ranged defense.The following tests are to find out when Vegaparsine/Elshandruu pica thundercloud actually work...
Defense: 169 melee 244 ranged
Defender has NO weapon equiped
Damage: 744Defense: 240 melee 315 ranged
Defender has weapon equiped
Damage: 709Defense: 269 melee 244 ranged (used +100MD vegaparsine)
Defender has NO weapon equiped
Damage: 718Defense: 340 melee 315 ranged (used +100MD vegaparsine)
Defender has weapon equiped
Damage: 709Defense: 269 melee 344 ranged (used +100MD vegaparsine AND +100RD Thundercloud)
Defender has NO weapon equiped
Damage: 718Defense: 340 melee 415 ranged (used +100MD vegaparsine AND +100RD Thundercloud)
Defender has weapon equiped
Damage: 683The above numbers show that my assumption about how melee and ranged defense work seem to be true. I've highlited the Damages and the corresponding defenses. I've also tested this briefly against a Jedi yesterday (he's melee), and after I took my ranged defense drink, he hit me for less dmg (after re-equiping my rifle ofcourse. Note I havent tested this for an extended period of time against a melee character, but I have no reason te believe its working any different).
So it seems to be that:
- Melee defense means your defense value against Ranged OR Melee attacks when you have a melee weapon equiped (your hands are also melee)
- Ranged defense mean your defense value against Ranged OR Melee attacks only when you have a ranged weapon equiped (You must re-equip your weapon after you used ranged defense food!!)Thats why Thundercloud doesnt work for a jedi Nicka. Because he equips a Melee weapon. He should infact use Vegeparsine
(Edited)
Regen Ednolb
EDIT:
I've done some simple testing with Clothing and Armor with Ranged / Melee defense mods. It seems to work exactly the same as I described above!If you have above +25 on some skill in attachments on your suit, it will count as +25 to that mod. I tested this by using some clothes that would give me +46 in ranged defense. Altough the character screen might say you have a higher ranged defense, it actually has the exact same result as using +25 in attachments! When I had a +21 ranged defense mod on my cloths, it showed an increase in dmg, but +46 = +25)
Message Edited by Maxil on 10-30-2005 09:18 PM
Jedi1006 wrote:
Well im Mls/Mdef/healer4040 and i have a 600 mod dps saber/ 98 sac/ 16 fcand to say the least i havnt been killed since full temp. I heal maybe twice or 3 times during a fightwith combat medics and rifleman/carb/pistol etc etc (sometimes i have 2 or 3 bh showup)...maybe the bh just suck but all i do is rotate between valor and aura and i get hit maybe 1/10 or 2/10 times for 60-150 damage and i have infusion on so i get right back on par. My force never runs out and my mind doesnt drain fast enough. I also have avoid incap for the dirty situation which i have yet to encounter.Having force saphelps greatly against cmas they go down quickly. My defense gets so high with pikatta pie, ranged defense food, booster blue, and mandowinecombined with aura and valor at the same time that i had a friend test sniper shot on me with a legendary t21 and he hit me for 710 damage...mdef is great if u know how to play your template. I lovePvP now and like SWG in general haha. Its all about tactics and wise use of skills.
And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...
NoStyleGuy wrote:
And 90% of the jedi say that jedi are underpowered...
That's 'cause they can't find the "I WIN!!!" button.
how do you know a guy is a mdef and not 4040 defender or 4440 or 4044?
anyway wearing a persons force down is the best way to beat them, if they are unwise.