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Thread: [Confirmed by Dev] Details of Cloak Changes. Fair Compromise?

Genildor
Sat Sep 17, 2005 6:02 am
#14






Tanilith wrote:

1) Its 32 meters.


2) Stasis IS EXACTLY like concussion shot and paralyze, skills that normal profs have.


3) The "Devs" can only Nerf instead of creating . . . . which sucks for everyone!








No... it's 20 meters.



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JediRoq101
Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:26 am
#15



procel wrote:
if cloakers cant heal whilst cloaked(or decloak when they heal) how about fixing the fact that a cm can dot a cloaked jedi? cmon fairs fair devs , sort this mess out fgs .




That should probably get fixed along with cloaked Jedi healing non-cloaked people. It's nice to see we get these fixes, and the Ranger revamp looks pretty nice too.



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alias77
Sat Sep 17, 2005 8:42 am
#16

i think this is the wrong forum, BH vs. cloak is a very very small problem.

this changes are more for the GCW and they are necessarily.



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pepe4158
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:00 am
#17

I here by declare the end of Jedi as we know it,,,,,,its so easy......just go BH/hyprid just enough to get ONLY cloak. Even the mighty God like Jedi's will fall to you and will soon be calling for their own proffesionto be nerfed...the IRONY...lol.....I see my future so clearly........Get mission.......follow God like jedi master around all day as I am cloaked as he kills Kimo's,nightsisters,krayts....etc..........great n mighty master stops to meditate...I uncloak.....aka some macro to equip all my armor n blaster....let him have it....now I am a few million richer and great and arrogant master toon is crying to have his own profession NERFED......satisfaction quaranteed.
daetalus
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:12 am
#18






pepe4158 wrote:
I here by declare the end of Jedi as we know it,,,,,,its so easy......just go BH/hyprid just enough to get ONLY cloak. Even the mighty God like Jedi's will fall to you and will soon be calling for their own proffesionto be nerfed...the IRONY...lol.....I see my future so clearly........Get mission.......follow God like jedi master around all day as I am cloaked as he kills Kimo's,nightsisters,krayts....etc..........great n mighty master stops to meditate...I uncloak.....aka some macro to equip all my armor n blaster....let him have it....now I am a few million richer and great and arrogant master toon is crying to have his own profession NERFED......satisfaction quaranteed.






In an upcoming publish, if you equip a weapon other than LS or unarmed, you cant use jedi skills.



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daetalus
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:15 am
#19






AD_Maj wrote:






Tanilith wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:





Grunzer wrote:


I do have to say that honestly, with the way they are going. It might eventually get to the point that Jedi have to crawl on the ground while waiting 5 minutes for the warmup timer to finish so they can swing their saber 1 time, and then turn around and wait another 10 minutes for the cooldown timer, meanwhile they've been snared, rooted, and KD'd... But not by the BH, instead by their own specials.



Seriously, a fair compromise is removing the ability to heal/med while cloaked. That's totally understandable. But adding a snare too?



Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:38 PM





Cloakers get snared? Wow lol... That sucks



And btw, to get concussion shot, you need smuggler. That would totally wreck my template. But, if smuggler had a cool force run that made me faster than any vehicle, maybe I would find a way out to get it








wrong again.


fr1 is slower than burst.


fr2 is BARELY faster than burst.


FR3 is CONSIDERABLY SLOWER than swoops, av-21s, speederbikes . . ect ect ect . . .


Guess you are one of the people who just likes to make 5|-|17 up.








Wow thats a pretty big accusation there. You can't " guess " and make such a vindication.


Guess you are one of thejedi that have dyslexia and went to the wrong forums.







He is right about the speeds.


Sounds like you got pwnt on an online forum and feel you have to save face by name calling b/c you were wrong.





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RyFord
Sat Sep 17, 2005 9:43 am
#20

changes to cloak don't apply here as there is no Jedi Snare and these changes primarily affect Jedi CloakLooters.





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DrendalKahn
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:05 am
#21






RyFord wrote:

changes to cloak don't apply here as there is no Jedi Snare and these changes primarily affect Jedi CloakLooters.








And I think we can all agree that the cloak looters were a bad thing.



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AD_Maj
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:14 am
#22






daetalus wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:






Tanilith wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:





Grunzer wrote:


I do have to say that honestly, with the way they are going. It might eventually get to the point that Jedi have to crawl on the ground while waiting 5 minutes for the warmup timer to finish so they can swing their saber 1 time, and then turn around and wait another 10 minutes for the cooldown timer, meanwhile they've been snared, rooted, and KD'd... But not by the BH, instead by their own specials.



Seriously, a fair compromise is removing the ability to heal/med while cloaked. That's totally understandable. But adding a snare too?



Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:38 PM





Cloakers get snared? Wow lol... That sucks



And btw, to get concussion shot, you need smuggler. That would totally wreck my template. But, if smuggler had a cool force run that made me faster than any vehicle, maybe I would find a way out to get it








wrong again.


fr1 is slower than burst.


fr2 is BARELY faster than burst.


FR3 is CONSIDERABLY SLOWER than swoops, av-21s, speederbikes . . ect ect ect . . .


Guess you are one of the people who just likes to make 5|-|17 up.








Wow thats a pretty big accusation there. You can't " guess " and make such a vindication.


Guess you are one of thejedi that have dyslexia and went to the wrong forums.







He is right about the speeds.


Sounds like you got pwnt on an online forum and feel you have to save face by name calling b/c you were wrong.








Never said he was wrong either, did I ?


Just saying, FR3 is faster than a vehicle, because of the fact.. nm already explained this in one of my above post.



BTW how am I calling him a name? Care to share where I do call him a name? Im only stating what he said in my own words. =)






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Sundal
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:18 am
#23






InfiniteWeird wrote:





Opie76 wrote:

How does stasis bother you? It's not even a skill in the Powers tree. Stasis was already balanced. There is 20sec immunity timer to it being reapplied, and it breaks upon damage. Nothing ot nerf with it.

Message Edited by Opie76 on 09-16-2005 09:35 PM




MBH Attacks jedi, jedi hits force run, puts MBH in stasis, runs off. Now while it is a damn good tactic it kind of stinks and to me it seems a bit out of wack, I've been after the same mark for a while now and every time I start hitting him he force runs and puts me in stasis, and even with parwan and the snare I have there is nothing I can do to keep him from catching me. And the only defense I can think of aganst such a trick is to have someone along with me to shoot at me when he does this to me, which I'm sure would be an exploit.



If a friend duels you mid-fight just to break you out of stasis it's an exploit. But if you aggro a low level mob nearby I dont think anyone can fault you. Just hit that corsec, or thug, or whatever in the towns.

DURho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:26 am
#24

Im still new at hunting jedi, very new, but I had a mark for 2 days, that everytime I would get within radar range he would cloak. Well I would leave come back he would cloak again. So fianlly I just walked up to were he was and said "Hi". We talked for about 5 minutes while he was cloaked, in my opinion him talking should break cloak. To me cloak is way over powered, what Jedi in Star wars has ever been able to be invisible? Why not give BH's something to jam radar. Something were we can actually sneak up on a Jedi? They can still see us if in visual range just block us from being seen on radar from 1024M.



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daetalus
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:36 am
#25






AD_Maj wrote:






daetalus wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:






Tanilith wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:





Grunzer wrote:


I do have to say that honestly, with the way they are going. It might eventually get to the point that Jedi have to crawl on the ground while waiting 5 minutes for the warmup timer to finish so they can swing their saber 1 time, and then turn around and wait another 10 minutes for the cooldown timer, meanwhile they've been snared, rooted, and KD'd... But not by the BH, instead by their own specials.



Seriously, a fair compromise is removing the ability to heal/med while cloaked. That's totally understandable. But adding a snare too?



Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:38 PM





Cloakers get snared? Wow lol... That sucks



And btw, to get concussion shot, you need smuggler. That would totally wreck my template. But, if smuggler had a cool force run that made me faster than any vehicle, maybe I would find a way out to get it








wrong again.


fr1 is slower than burst.


fr2 is BARELY faster than burst.


FR3 is CONSIDERABLY SLOWER than swoops, av-21s, speederbikes . . ect ect ect . . .


Guess you are one of the people who just likes to make 5|-|17 up.








Wow thats a pretty big accusation there. You can't " guess " and make such a vindication.


Guess you are one of thejedi that have dyslexia and went to the wrong forums.







He is right about the speeds.


Sounds like you got pwnt on an online forum and feel you have to save face by name calling b/c you were wrong.








Never said he was wrong either, did I ?


Just saying, FR3 is faster than a vehicle, because of the fact.. nm already explained this in one of my above post.



BTW how am I calling him a name? Care to share where I do call him a name? Im only stating what he said in my own words. =)






Well you are wrong. FR3 is slower than speederbikes, swoops, barc, av21, jetpac, and that 2person one that looks like a yugo. The only thing a jedi could hope to outrun would be those 7 person carriers or the flash speeder.


You called him a dyslexic jedi for using terminalogy that you obviously could understand and that if he had used the correct words, he wouldnt have been able to post.



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AD_Maj
Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:50 am
#26






daetalus wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:






daetalus wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:






Tanilith wrote:





AD_Maj wrote:





Grunzer wrote:


I do have to say that honestly, with the way they are going. It might eventually get to the point that Jedi have to crawl on the ground while waiting 5 minutes for the warmup timer to finish so they can swing their saber 1 time, and then turn around and wait another 10 minutes for the cooldown timer, meanwhile they've been snared, rooted, and KD'd... But not by the BH, instead by their own specials.



Seriously, a fair compromise is removing the ability to heal/med while cloaked. That's totally understandable. But adding a snare too?



Message Edited by Grunzer on 09-16-2005 09:38 PM





Cloakers get snared? Wow lol... That sucks



And btw, to get concussion shot, you need smuggler. That would totally wreck my template. But, if smuggler had a cool force run that made me faster than any vehicle, maybe I would find a way out to get it








wrong again.


fr1 is slower than burst.


fr2 is BARELY faster than burst.


FR3 is CONSIDERABLY SLOWER than swoops, av-21s, speederbikes . . ect ect ect . . .


Guess you are one of the people who just likes to make 5|-|17 up.








Wow thats a pretty big accusation there. You can't " guess " and make such a vindication.


Guess you are one of thejedi that have dyslexia and went to the wrong forums.







He is right about the speeds.


Sounds like you got pwnt on an online forum and feel you have to save face by name calling b/c you were wrong.








Never said he was wrong either, did I ?


Just saying, FR3 is faster than a vehicle, because of the fact.. nm already explained this in one of my above post.



BTW how am I calling him a name? Care to share where I do call him a name? Im only stating what he said in my own words. =)






Well you are wrong. FR3 is slower than speederbikes, swoops, barc, av21, jetpac, and that 2person one that looks like a yugo. The only thing a jedi could hope to outrun would be those 7 person carriers or the flash speeder.


You called him a dyslexic jedi for using terminalogy that you obviously could understand and that if he had used the correct words, he wouldnt have been able to post.






No i'm not. If jedi and BH were to race.. FR3 V.S vehicle, the BH would win, yes. HOWEVER in this case, BH v Jedi = Combat. BHs cannot call a vehicle while in combat. So if the jedi had FR3 on, and got away from BH, jedi would be at least 300m away and the BH would just be getting out of combat. So now he can call his vehicle AND risk it getting blown up.


Yep. Sarcasm is pretty hard to get off online isn't it. I was just stating, what he said to me, back at him except I edited the words. Hes a dyslexic jedi because hes in the BH forums. Gah never mind. Bad joke I know. /shrug




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