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Thread: jedi cloak and run
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I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
TheMadCoder wrote:
I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
cloak is in powers
NewPlayerTutorial wrote:Am I the only one who realizes staying within 20m of a jedi is a really stupid idea? But besides a hijack, cloak is supposed to work like that and no it shouldnt be nerfed. If you know the jedis a cloaker, bring a few friends to /follow you and send out seekers. The TEF will go away in 2.5m and he will now just be a nonTEFed jedi who you still send seekers after and drain his force.
It depends on your template if its a stupid idea. Nobody ever said a MBH / MRifle / Pistols 0004 should be able to kill a Jedi with Force Cloak.
There are templates that can stand toe to toe with a MLS / Powers x4xx / whatever Jedi and there are templates that will die in 10 seconds. Not every BH can kill every Jedi.
Aside from that, yes, Force Cloak should stay as it is. And roots were not brought in to counter Force Run, but because the devs tought the game could use a little more crowd control than dizzy / KD combos and roots exist in other popular MMORPGs.
Sorry, pardon me.
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
TheMadCoder wrote:
I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
cloak is in powers
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
TheMadCoder wrote:
I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
cloak is in powers
ROFL - what he said.
Cloak is about the only decent skill aside from Force Choke that Force Wielders have.
Aside from that, hunting other players is the iconic skill of the BH profession, so it belongs into the Master box. The iconic skill of Master Force Wielders is Force Choke, not Force Cloak.
Message Edited by Eskie on 07-21-2005 04:41 PM
Eskie wrote:
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
TheMadCoder wrote:
I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
cloak is in powers
ROFL - what he said.
Cloak is about the only decent skill aside from Force Choke that Force Wielders have.
Oh for the love of Christ is was a ****ing mistake. I've already apologized. Thet it ****ing go!
Here's 2 strategies to try:
1) get a droid or pet to follow them BEFORE you attack. let it get close so they can't run off as easily, so they'll have trouble cloaking. If they're catching youand running early get a friend with a pet who is not a bh to go hang around or talk to them, then have the pet follow them. It'll catch them off guard and they won't be able to attack the pet.
2) Apply a DOT (or ?state?). If i remember correctly, jedi can't cloak when they have a dot (eg bleed, poison, disease) and maybe even a state (blind, stun, dizzy--not so sure about states). As a BH you can apply blind, stun, and dizzy, as well as a bleed without picking up any more skills outside of BH.
-Athark Othere
NewPlayerTutorial wrote:I have honestly never seen a mcm bh do any good. Truthfully their attacks dont do any damage, their stasis suck compared to others, and their heals are gimpy compared to others, not to mention once that mind bars gone your a dead fish. The only template i have EVER seen do comperable to a fully temped jedi was a Mswords TKM doc 4000.
The problem is MSwords / TKM / Doc 4000 doesnt include MBH, so Jedi encounters are limited to GCW battles. But yes, that is a template that can go toe to toe with a full templated Jedi and has a good chance of wearing the Jedis Force bar down.
MBH / CM 44x4 is very powerful against full templates if the player knows which foods / drinks / spices to take and when to use which attacks.
Message Edited by Eskie on 07-21-2005 04:44 PM
Jedi are supposed to be hidden right, so when they cloak and run, they are hidden.
That said, what I would like to see is a minimum timer on cloak. Once activated, you have to stay cloaked for xx mins or seconds. This is to prevent the jedi cloaking, then uncloaking to kill a BH's ride, then cloaking again. The current timer only prevents you from cloaking again within 20 seconds of the previous activation, it really should be 20 secs from the time you uncloak (de-activation).
TheMadCoder wrote:
Eskie wrote:
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
TheMadCoder wrote:
I have a very strong feeling that this skill will be moved to master enhancer soon. It's far too abused to be given out my just ONE LINE of a skill tree. This is the exact same reason they got rid of 4xxx bounty hunters.
I don't think cloak will be a non-master skill for long. When this change happens, you'll see a lot less, as not everyone wants to invest in the entire enhancer tree.
cloak is in powers
ROFL - what he said.
Cloak is about the only decent skill aside from Force Choke that Force Wielders have.
Oh for the love of Christ is was a ****ing mistake. I've already apologized. Thet it ****ing go!
Look at the timestamps of the posts, I did not see your post before hitting the "Submit Post" button. Apology accepted
