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Thread: jedi cloak and run
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argofive
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:16 am
#1
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?
i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?
and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
Eskie
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:20 am
#2
argofive wrote:
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
That is what cloak is for. 28 skill points / 3,020,000 Jedi xp spent for an avenue of escape instead of offensive or healing abilities. If a Jedi has cloak he doesnt have something else, so adjust your attack strategy since now you know the Jedi has cloak. There are counters to cloak.
Message Edited by Eskie on 07-21-2005 03:42 PM
Numa2
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:20 am
#3
Yea FR and cloak are annoying but there is no point in saying anything about as nothing will change.
Had a mark yesterday, got to him, had a fight for about 15 minutes, i asume he was running low on force so he FR and tell'ed me "/t wanna see the sights of corella." Used one of them burst run cakes got to him and d/b'ed him 
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argofive
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:25 am
#4
ok so theres nothign you can do about it. so as a new BH, what do you do to fight cloak...
here is the situation...give me a response to help me out here.
arrive at target.
35 m attack (i use carbs)
run up to jedi /follow
use CM abilitys.
he cloaks....no sign of him.
/end hunt lol
FernGully
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:31 am
#5
argofive wrote:
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
You're not bugged. That's how cloak works. Cloak does have a cooldown timer of 15 seconds, but that's to prevent rapid cloak/decloak/recloak during combat. Your best strategy against a cloaking jedi is to stay within range of him, and keep him rooted & snared so that he can't get away from you (he can't cloak if he's within 20m of anyone).
Essentially what you're asking is that a Jedi not be able to use his skills to do what they were meant to do. And why? Not because he uses them to kill you (you can't fight while cloaked), but rather just because him successfully using cloak to escape keeps you from killing him. That's certainly an interesting one, and certainly been heard a lot more lately. "NERF NON-OFFENSIVE SURVIVAL SKILLS!".
Eskie
Thu Jul 21, 2005 6:40 am
#6
argofive wrote:ok so theres nothign you can do about it. so as a new BH, what do you do to fight cloak...
here is the situation...give me a response to help me out here.
arrive at target.
35 m attack (i use carbs)
run up to jedi /follow
use CM abilitys.
he cloaks....no sign of him.
/end hunt lol
Jedi cannot cloak if anything is within 20m of them. So attack when he is in the middle of a picket lair with root being your first attack, for example. You could use a droid with good armor and tell it to follow the Jedi, which forces the Jedi to kill the droid before being able to cloak. Knockdowns work well, also. Learn the Jedi skills, stalk your mark to know which of those skills the Jedi has, and then plan your attacks. Just running in doesnt work.
Ragen_Nightstalker
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:00 am
#7
argofive wrote:
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?
i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?
and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
yes, cloak need's to be worked on. they should make it so that if your in combat then you can not cloak, simple as that.
Eskie
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:04 am
#8
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
argofive wrote:
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
yes, cloak need's to be worked on. they should make it so that if your in combat then you can not cloak, simple as that.
Huh? That would defeat the sole purpose of Force Cloak. It is a skill meant to be used for surprise attacks or escapes out of hairy situations.
TheMadCoder
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:19 am
#11
Unfortunately, threads like these are pointless. Not because you don't have a valid point, but because:
By checking the post history, you'll see all contrary views are from Jedi (trying to maintain their uberness,) and all supporting views are from bounty hunters. "Adapt" my arse. Betweem FR and FC, they've got a get out of jail free card.
(And, the folks that say "adapt! Stay within 20m and he can't cloak!" Well, guess what? 50% of the time, the server has no clue where you are. You can be humping the Jedi's leg, and the server thinks you're 30m away! This is *factored into* weapon range as a certain amount of 'fuzziness," but not force cloak! If you happen to have a friend to playalong withyou at a seperate machine (say at a lab or something) watch the differences between where one machine thinks a player is and the other (via the server.) FC does NOT always get blocked at 20m or less.
Message Edited by TheMadCoder on 07-21-2005 10:22 AM
Ragen_Nightstalker
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:23 am
#12
Eskie wrote:
Ragen_Nightstalker wrote:
argofive wrote:
ok so maybe im bugged but it seems that when i get a bounty and finaly find him/her after an hour or so of running through the Server...mind you. i find that i attack the jedi and they run and cloak...is it me or is that total BS?
i mean ok cloak is cool...but should it not be on a timer? ie BH attacks Jedi...Jedi runs and has to wait like 15 sec (withought being attacked before they can cloak...does this not sound better?
and this can go for PVP as well. i have only experienced it during a bounty.
yes, cloak need's to be worked on. they should make it so that if your in combat then you can not cloak, simple as that.
Huh? That would defeat the sole purpose of Force Cloak. It is a skill meant to be used for surprise attacks or escapes out of hairy situations.
Cloak is the "i dont want to die button", just like how force run 2 and 3 use to be. To keep people from running they brought in root's. Now all the jedi are turning twords cloak to escape any fight they cant win. all they need to do is root you and force run 20 meter's away and there gone. Cloak should be used for surprise attack's, sneaking around to see what's going on but not as a 100% chance escape plan. Anyone should be able to see that being able to cloak while in combat is a bit unbalanced.
NewPlayerTutorial
Thu Jul 21, 2005 7:24 am
#13
AmI the only one who realizes staying within 20m of a jedi is a really stupid idea? But besides a hijack, cloak is supposed to work like that and no it shouldnt be nerfed. If you know the jedis a cloaker, bring a few friends to /follow you and send out seekers. The TEF will go away in 2.5m and he will now just be a nonTEFed jedi who you still send seekers after and drain his force.
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