Bounty Hunter Archive

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

My take on it is this:

Is the Black Sun Imperial? Is Jabba Imperial? Is the Death Watch Imperial? No to all 3, right? So technically, since they are not Imperial and they do not conform to Imperial rule, they are Rebels. In this game, we are only allowed two factions in order to be in the GCW. We know that when we did the missions for Rebel Ace Pilot(Vortex, I believe), we did a few jobs to help Nym. Nym is not a part of the Rebel Alliance, yet he is opposed to the Empire.

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Have to disagree about this.These 3 may not be Imperial, they may even oppose the Empire.But they dont fight against Imperial rule so they are not Rebels not even technically. They may dabble in illegal activities which only makes them criminals....And there are(or were)Dark Jedi Knight that do work for the Empire.

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Illyaz wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

My take on it is this:

Is the Black Sun Imperial? Is Jabba Imperial? Is the Death Watch Imperial? No to all 3, right? So technically, since they are not Imperial and they do not conform to Imperial rule, they are Rebels. In this game, we are only allowed two factions in order to be in the GCW. We know that when we did the missions for Rebel Ace Pilot(Vortex, I believe), we did a few jobs to help Nym. Nym is not a part of the Rebel Alliance, yet he is opposed to the Empire.

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Have to disagree about this.These 3 may not be Imperial, they may even oppose the Empire.But they dont fight against Imperial rule so they are not Rebels not even technically. They may dabble in illegal activities which only makes them criminals....And there are(or were)Dark Jedi Knight that do work for the Empire.

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Really? Maybe you need to read up then. Here, I'll provide you the link that state otherwise as far as the Black Sun are concerned.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/blacksun/index.html

Seriously, Prince Xizor died at the hands of one Lord Vader... Darth Maul killed another former leader... why would they if there wasn't opposition?

Merriam-Webster Online says that rebel isopposing or taking arms against a government or ruler. The mentality of the Empire is if you are not for, then you are against. So why wouldn't Emperor Palpatine consider anyone that was not of the Empire to be "rebels?"

Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 06-16-2005 05:18 PM

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

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Illyaz wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

My take on it is this:

Is the Black Sun Imperial? Is Jabba Imperial? Is the Death Watch Imperial? No to all 3, right? So technically, since they are not Imperial and they do not conform to Imperial rule, they are Rebels. In this game, we are only allowed two factions in order to be in the GCW. We know that when we did the missions for Rebel Ace Pilot(Vortex, I believe), we did a few jobs to help Nym. Nym is not a part of the Rebel Alliance, yet he is opposed to the Empire.

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Have to disagree about this.These 3 may not be Imperial, they may even oppose the Empire.But they dont fight against Imperial rule so they are not Rebels not even technically. They may dabble in illegal activities which only makes them criminals....And there are(or were)Dark Jedi Knight that do work for the Empire.

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Really? Maybe you need to read up then. Here, I'll provide you the link that state otherwise as far as the Black Sun are concerned.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/organization/blacksun/index.html

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I fail to see the point you are trying to make. Black Sun was a criminal organization as I mentioned, they were infiltrated by "REBELS" (so they were not rebels) and their leader had a personal beef with Vader. They were a criminal oganization that the Emperor wanted removed.

Message Edited by Illyaz on 06-16-2005 02:19 PM

You said that in order for them to be rebels, they had to "fight Imperial rule" which while true, is not completely correct. Because they opposed, they were rebels.

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DaveG wrote:

I can agree with you to a point. However, from the point of view of rebels, we generally want the old-republic restored, and by that token we look to history and see the Jedi as the guardians of peace in that society (despite imperial propaganda). Therefore why would we kill those who could best secure that society, i.e. the (Light) Jedi?

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Since when does this game follow the story line? I think since the first jedi unlocked their slot, it has strayed from the original star wars story, so what's the use following it now?

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

You said that in order for them to be rebels, they had to "fight Imperial rule" which while true, is not completely correct. Because they opposed, they were rebels.

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They never took up arms against the Empire, they are not Rebels...They were only a criminal organization, just likethe Italian Mafia.

Message Edited by Illyaz on 06-16-2005 02:29 PM

haha, was bobba a part of the gcw? i ever saw a imp tag over his head. sure as heck didnt see a reb tag. If you want to hunt both factions I say be neutral. BHs should not hunt their own faction, period. Afterall, would the rebels of let bobba fight for them if he went around collecting bounties on their members? I think Vader and/or the Emp would be more than slightly miffed if bobba took a bounty for, say, some of their high rank officers?

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Illyaz wrote:

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

You said that in order for them to be rebels, they had to "fight Imperial rule" which while true, is not completely correct. Because they opposed, they were rebels.

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They never took up arms against the Empire, they are not Rebels...They were only a criminal organization, just likethe Italian Mafia.

Message Edited by Illyaz on 06-16-2005 02:29 PM

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/sigh That's fine, go ahead and make up your own definitions of the word "rebel." They opposed, there for they were Rebel, and if the Black Sun leaders fought the Sith lords... when did they not take up arms?

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ShaikeRamjet wrote:

Merriam-Webster Online says that rebel isopposing or taking arms against a government or ruler.

Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 06-16-200505:18 PM

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This is the def you provided. When did Black Sun do the Above? The Black Sun Leader had a personal beef with Vader...No one else.

Message Edited by Illyaz on 06-16-2005 02:49 PM

Message Edited by Illyaz on 06-16-2005 02:50 PM

Well, for one thing, the Black Sun uncovered who Darth Sidious was and what his plans were. Darth Maul was sent to dispatch the leader of the Black Sun to prevent the secret of the Sith from getting out.

Rivalry between Vader and Xizor was especially strong due to the fact that, after an accident at a biologicalweapons laboratory on Xizor's homeworld, Vader ordered all the Falleens who had been contaminated to be "sterilized," (i.e. they were killed.) When Xizor learned that Luke Skywalkerwas Vader's son, he decided to kill Skywalker so as to foil Vader's plan to turn Luke to the dark side. However, when Vader learned of the scheme, he made sure Xizor paid with his life.

Opposition? I would think so.

OMG!!! Xizor, being the leader of the organization, used his resources and his power to try and destroy the Empires plans of turning Luke to the darkside of the force. Alexi Garyn was the leader that Darth Maul killed when the Black Sun was threatening Darth Sidious' plans and revealing the Sith.... HELLO!!!! THERE IS OBVIOUSLY OPPOSITION HERE!!!!

Message Edited by ShaikeRamjet on 06-16-2005 05:58 PM