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Thread: rebel and imperial jedi contraversy

Spookibus
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:00 pm
#1

Rebels especially get ticked off, because BH's are technically enforcing the IMPERIAL law that makes any Jedi activity punishable by death. Imps generally don't get as angry about it, though there are exceptions.



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Grifn
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:02 pm
#2






zachleathers wrote:

its just my personal opinion but.....


I think itsstupid how people get all pissed off when a bounty hunter kills a jedi in the same faction as them..i mean think about this. a bounty hunter is supposed to be a cold hearted person who cares only about themselves n if they get a bounty they could care less if they are rebel and you are rebel its a BOUNTY HUNTER thats what they do, kill their target and collect the bounty who cares what faction their in. do you think jango fett or boba fett would care....lol well i dont.... a bounty is a bounty deal with it, if you choose to be jedi live up to the consequences dont use the exscuse of being an imperial and thinking all imperials should drop ur bounty, thats what bounty hunting is all about DEAL WITH IT!







Agreed. There's no such thing as Imperial Jedi. The Empire wants you all dead. Check the link in my sig for BHA's take on the subject. Scroll down to "Faction Association".



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crowmedic
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:05 pm
#3

Refer to my sig plz



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DaveG
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:15 pm
#4



zachleathers wrote:
its just my personal opinion but.....
I think its stupid how people get all pissed off when a bounty hunter kills a jedi in the same faction as them..i mean think about this. a bounty hunter is supposed to be a cold hearted person who cares only about themselves n if they get a bounty they could care less if they are rebel and you are rebel its a BOUNTY HUNTER thats what they do, kill their target and collect the bounty who cares what faction their in. do you think jango fett or boba fett would care....lol well i dont.... a bounty is a bounty deal with it, if you choose to be jedi live up to the consequences dont use the exscuse of being an imperial and thinking all imperials should drop ur bounty, thats what bounty hunting is all about DEAL WITH IT!
Kalam
Master BH & Master Carbineer



I must disagree. No matter what your "day job" is (i.e. BH), if you are rebel or imperial you have chosen a side so you stick to it.

Unfortunately, this is a problem in the game mechanics by which we can have rebel bounty hunters. It makes sense that the Imperials are continuing to enforce their Jedi purge, so Imperial fighters will act on such directives, and it also makes sense that the Empire would hire mercenaries (i.e. neutral/civilians), a famous example being Boba Fett.

Personally, if I take a Jedi mark, and I get there and disocover the Jedi is a rebel, I will drop my mission because I'm a rebel too, and as such that Jedi is on my side of the war. So with the proposed fan fest changes coming through I do hope that they put a faction filter onto the terminals if they are also going to put unsuccessful BH's on the terminals too, because otherwise I'm going to be on the terminals a lot just because I won't collect a bounty on someone who's on the same side as I am.

The only other alternative I can think of is to change the game so that if you can only become a bounty hunter if you are a civilian, i.e. you are on your own side, no factions, because you're a cold-hearted killer, and conversely you can't join a side unless you drop all your Bounty Hunter skills.



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zachleathers
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:15 pm
#5

thanx for agreeing with me guys




Kalam
=Hax to the Max=
Dueza
zachleathers
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:19 pm
#6

yea a filter would make sense or having a rebel and imperial BH terminal.....it would make things easier and the terminals should telll if a jedi is on or not, cuz like if jango fett is going after someone he doest have to check if they r online lololol i mean id be more convienent especialy when the friends window is laggy n being gay, its not like id give us an edge or nething just more convienent




Kalam
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Dueza
Ezar
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:23 pm
#7


Like my last jedi mission said: "The empire has no use for jedi, regardless of political affiliation"


Weno longerneed jedi to enfore peace and justice in the new order, we have stormtroopers for that.


My old imperial guild was fun but as someone so eloquently put it, "there can be no truce between lions and men". My views have led me to join a bounty hunter only guild.


- Ezar


Message Edited by Ezar on 06-16-2005 01:25 PM

SunSpy
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:29 pm
#8






zachleathers wrote:

thanx for agreeing with me guys





Well of course they all agree. You told people who didn't agree not to post. Anyway, you can do whatever you like...makes no difference to me and probably makes no difference to people who get mad that you have a good Star Wars reason for doing it either.



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Rebel Pilot Ace/Retired Master Bounty Hunter
Illyaz
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:29 pm
#9

Ihave a pet peeve about Jedi being Imperial.I feelas though ifa Jedi wants to fight in the GCWthat only Dark Jedi should be Imperial, and Jedi should have to be Rebel.
ShaikeRamjet
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:38 pm
#10

My take on it is this:


Is the Black Sun Imperial? Is Jabba Imperial? Is the Death Watch Imperial? No to all 3, right? So technically, since they are not Imperial and they do not conform to Imperial rule, they are Rebels. In this game, we are only allowed two factions in order to be in the GCW. We know that when we did the missions for Rebel Ace Pilot(Vortex, I believe), we did a few jobs to help Nym. Nym is not a part of the Rebel Alliance, yet he is opposed to the Empire.


My point is, in order for us to fight against the Empire, we only have one side that we can choose. Just because we are "rebels" it does not mean that we have to be a part of the "Rebel Alliance." Since neutral players can not participate in the GCW, we chose the side that we liked in order to fight against the other.


There are no Imperial Dark Jedi Knights, yet they are Imperial players none the less. It's become common knowledge that Emperor Palpatine wants ALL Jedi terminated and the DJK have all accepted the fact that they are hunted by the very faction that they once and still fight with. Why is it that Rebel Jedi feel like it is treason when a Rebel BH hunts them? Who said that that BH HAD to be a part of the Rebel Alliance? Just because they are of the Rebel faction, it does not neccesarily mean that they HAVE to be a "Rebel."


The Rebel faction is too generalized for it to even matter. Like I said, anyone against the Empire is considered Rebels, not just the Rebel Alliance. I honestly believe that this is just another thing for Jedi to cry about and hope to change with their crying to prevent them from dying so much and losing experience. They all knew what they were getting into when the picked upthe profession. All of these sob stories about how much it sucks to lose xp and blah blah blah... they knew before hand, they knew they would be hunted, they knew that it wasn't going to be easy, yet they still cry. They chose their path.


Seriously, it's like a little kid that begs his parents for that shiny new toy. They explain to him that in order to get the new toy he has to walk down a long rocky road to get to the toy store. He enthusiastically sets out to get his new toy knowing the dangers, but then along the way, the rocks start hurting his feet. He falls and bruises or scrapes his knee one too many times and then starts crying because of how hard it is to get there. He knows how great the toy is at the end of the road, yet he still cries. He begs for someone to carry him on their shoulders. He tries to hitch rides... anything he can do to not have to walk that path... Don't even get me started on the ones who are able to just throw $600 on that new toy and have it delivered to their house.


Jedi are like children in the fact that what they have is never good enough and the path is never easy enough. They want to be carried and they want to be pampered. They want more for less and if they can get Rebel BH to not be able to hunt them anymore, then they just eliminated half of their "rocky path" to their "shiny toy."







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ravius7
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:39 pm
#11

In our guild any BH who attacks an imperial jedi will be removed from the guild. This isnt to maintain some galactic standard of behavior, rather the fact that the offending BH causes rifts between other imperial guilds and endless headaches for the guild leaders. I believe this may be more of an official stance than some random jedi or friend of a jedi who doesnt like getting killed. Of course if u dont mind the drama or have a guild that isnt interested in any one cooperating with you simply because you are from the said guild, feel free, but forget pvp as few if any other imp guilds would assist you.
Strangeur
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:39 pm
#12


It's nothing about 'cold-heartedness'


Though I'm not really fussed; aBH should not, in myopinion,be able to hunt jedi of the same faction .


Nothing to do with morality, but rules instead. By joining a faction, uve become part of an organization. It is assumed u will be loyal to that organization. That involves not killing fellow soldiers.

Seems silly to me that u can and not get chucked out or executed.


U can justify it all by repeating the 'Empire is hunting all Jedi' mantra. Which also seems silly considering jedi can go imperial.

Either an imperial jedi should be considered enslaved and immune to reprisals from the empire, or they should be automatically chucked out on being discovered jedi (i.e appearing on the terms).


Take care
Jimbone
Thu Jun 16, 2005 1:42 pm
#13






DaveG wrote:


I must disagree. No matter what your "day job" is (i.e. BH), if you are rebel or imperial you have chosen a side so you stick to it.





And I'll disagree with you. Rebel/Imperial is nothing more than politics. And in politics, you have your moderates and your radicals.


For instance: a radical right-wing republican may think that the KKK and fascism are perfectly alright; whereas the average or moderate right winger thinks both ideas are abhorrent.


Same thing with faction. I may have some sympathy for the rebellion, but I do not buy into all of their ideals: hence ALL jedi are fair game to me.




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