Bounty Hunter Archive

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SamousNemo wrote:

A recent post was made regarding removing Jedi from their houses if a Bounty Hunter is after them. I replied and was mis-interpreted.

Just to clear the water, I think removing any player from a structurehe/she isalready in is a bad idea.

The same can be said regarding shooting through walls, allowing the hunter to enter the structure, not allowing a (un-tef'd) Jedi from entering a structure, etc.

Yes, finding Jedi unattackable due to houses is a big issue, but a "/pick lock" command isn't the way to fix it.

On the same note, I'd like to use this post as an opportunity to request possible solutions to this situation. I'd really like to hear some ideas from my fellow hunters becuase this is an issue that needs solved.

Please keep in mind that any form of removing a bounty from a structure is not an alternative I am willing to pursue.

Some ideas suggested so far:

a) Droids notify hunters if the bounty is static orinside a private structure. Waypoint would still update and bounty would remain for hunters willing to investigate

b) Remove bounties from the terminals if the mark remains static/inside for a certain amount of time. Should the Jedi move beyond that point, standing bounties are back on the terminals. Missions pre-existing in datapads could remain for the die-hard stalker crowd

Keep 'em coming guys and let's try to keep the atmosphere positive

Message Edited by SamousNemo on 10-10-2005 10:49 PM

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I personally like this idea the best... I would also like to have the marks name moved to the spynet instead of waiting for a droid... or even possibly increasing the range that the droid will give us the name. Just doesnt make any sense to go from planet to planet to go within 1k to find out who are bounty is.

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Cphopp wrote:

One problem...BHs are hardly ever contracted to kill someone...you see a WANTED poster up somewhere...and the first one to bring in their head gets payment

not too many instances in canon or anywhere else bounty hunters getting punished for losing to their mark....cause ya know what...if a BH lost to their mark...getting punished by their "employer" would probably be the least of their worries

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If you want to throw cannon in there BH don'[t hunt Jedi, they hunt smugglers and politicians

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PDPoc wrote:

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Reikus wrote:

Ok, hmm.. I'd like to explain my view without getting hate flamed (that I guess being next to impossible)

I play almost every day. I also work. I have a job and responsibilities, bills, mortgage etc. I have a partner I play with who sometimes needs to group with me to go survey with her CL1 etc or maybe needs someone for a little extra group exp bonus or the like when our friends are not on. So, I go afk in my house during the day and come back to play at night.

Now I recently unlocked my jedi. I decided I was going to make my alt a BH cause it sounds like fun. Do I have time to grind up my BH/whatever I'm making yet? No. Am I going to no longer do the afk thing in my house to benefit my partner? Of course I'm going to keep doing it. I worked to get my jedi. Yes I understand that I'm to be hunted but I also have the rights of every other player. Sometimes I'm at home and not even afk. Sometimes I like to just talk or play with the people that know me. I am a real live person. I am a player, just like you who spends money to play and has a life, just like you. I am not evil, or malicious, or spiteful. I am not your enemy. I did not harm you or have any intention of making you my enemy. So where does all this hatred come from?

Now with the jedi that posted earlier about being in his home to annoy BH's, I think that's actually rather pathetic, and a waste of good playtime. Sitting there just to annoy someone else playing is no better than them treating you not like a player but like game content. Everyone is playing to have fun. To tell me that I'm not allowed to have a safe place to be with my main character just because you as a BH can't interrupt my playtime for your own enjoyment is not only selfish, it's childish. I am a person and a player. My BH will probably not hunt jedi often if at all, but if I ever do I won't be calling them names just because they're afk in their house. I will also not kill an afk player, jedi or not. That is simply being cruel to someone I don't even know.

I say all this cause I see a long thread here that doesn't need to be here. What do you do when your elite NPC mark is in a tree, or in the water, or stuck in a house and you can't get to him? I dont see a endless number of huge forum threads on that. Most just drop the mission and get a new one. I've heard about it over and over again. What is the difference when it's a player? It's fine when it's an NPC but when it's me I have to oblige you, even when I get absolutely nothing out of it? Don't I deserve at least that much respect from another human being? I try to respect all players. Everyone has a right to have fun and there are many different ways of doing it and many jedi that are at the keyboard who would welcome the hunt. You want to attack me while I'm out and about, fine. That is how the visibility thing is now and it is the same thing I expect from any jedi I will hunt. You will never catch me complaining that someone is a jerk cause he's stopping me from killing him by being in a safe place. That is just wrong.

I've said what I needed to. I welcome your opinions but you have to remember that we are ALL playing this game together.

Thanks

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/standing ovation

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/cheer waves arms about in happiness....

This guy has just summed it up perfectly for 99% of Jedi out there. Those that do it deliberatly are scumbags most of us are just doing r/l stuff . Great post should be stickied here and the Jedi forums TBH.

Another fix is to remove player bounties, there would be no Jedi griefing BHs or BHs griefing Jedi. But instead there will be whining about there is no player bounties. So the solution is simple; Take a new mission if you encounter a Jedi AFK in his house or other private structure.

I agree with everything Reikus said. But also consider this. If a jedi does go AFK in the house maybe it can be considered a form of protest by the Jedi. Right now they have no incentive to fight whatsoever. I don't do it . .. but I do know some that will sit AFK in their house all day long. BH can choose to waste their time or drop the mission. Give the jedi some incentive to fight. But don't ever expect them to fight on your terms. It just wont happen.

H

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PDPoc wrote:

If you want to throw cannon in there BH don'[t hunt Jedi, they hunt smugglers and politicians

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if the jedi is in a private building the seeker should report this to the bh, so the mission can be dropped,

if the mark is in the open then we should get some options,

*my idea would to give the bh the option of sending a warning to the jedi that he was been hunted, this warning would stop the mark from entering private buildings, the jedi would get a warning like 'you feel a disturbance in the force prepare to fight', (places the bh teff on the mark) the warning could be sent from any planet and would instant teff your mark.

*of course if the bh don't want to give the warning then there would be a chance the jedi could run into a private building. This way the warning of the jedi could be used taticaly.

just a idea most prob got lot of ruff edges

The root of the problem needs to be addressed which is "why do Jedi sit afk in their houses for hours?" If it's to lose visibilty and get off the terminals then an easy solution is just make it so Jedi don't lose visibility while online, only when they are logged off. If Jedi do it to be spiteful then maybe a revamp of the AFK system needs to be addressed. For example if a player is stationary in the same "waypoint" for x amount of time the game boots him out, however, actions like dancing and such that move them around would need to be addressed somehow. For the Jedi that sit in their houses just to be spiteful it's no different then someone triple incapping you to ruin your gear or exploiting for the win. Unfortunately that is just how some people act online, in their cars, in groups or other times when people feel like they are tough and no repercussions will be brought against them.

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fuzzyfelthead wrote:

if the jedi is in a private building the seeker should report this to the bh, so the mission can be dropped,

if the mark is in the open then we should get some options,

*my idea would to give the bh the option of sending a warning to the jedi that he was been hunted, this warning would stop the mark from entering private buildings, the jedi would get a warning like 'you feel a disturbance in the force prepare to fight', (places the bh teff on the mark) the warning could be sent from any planet and would instant teff your mark.

*of course if the bh don't want to give the warning then there would be a chance the jedi could run into a private building. This way the warning of the jedi could be used taticaly.

just a idea most prob got lot of ruff edges

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The first two problems with this that spring to mind are..

Jedi is on the roof of a private building, is now TEFd and unable to enter the building to get back to the ground so will still be unattackable when the BH arrives.

BH sends warning and then goes AFK on a roof for 3 days leaving the Jedi unable to enter any building until the mission decays (or if they are on a roof they are trapped for 3 days). Makes for a great griefing tool.

There should be a timer on the teff not sure what amount of time would be good, but if the bh warns the jedi combat has to start within a set amount of time, or the mission is dropped, failed mission, like i said ruff idea,