Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??
DarthKaelan
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:17 pm
#183
Something for everyone to keep in mind - especially those screaming that this isn't the answer to all our prayers:
Those of us supporting it *realize* that it's not. And from JustG's post, so do the devs. There are a load of fixes (hopefully) coming in the revamp, but with what's been handed to the Jedi, we_can't_fill_our_roles_in_hunting_them.
At least this way, we can have some added skills to combat them when we actually *do* find them.
It's a quick fix, and it's a small band-aid for a gaping chest wound, but it's a step in the right direction. It doesn't mean that any of us are going to suddenly stop holding the devs' feet to the fire over our broken/underpowered specials, lack of inherent defenses,and mission issues.
For those talking about how "unique" the BH profession is - what makes us unique? The fact that we all have to be nearly identical to each other if we want to make Master?
Yeah. We're unique because we all match. Bleah.
I got MBH the old fashioned way, and I'll still gladly kiss those skills I don't use goodbye in favor of skills that will help me be a better hunter.
Redrumm
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:17 pm
#184
Omigod am I dreaming??? Finally we can do something else with are profession thank you so much devs!!!! Thx Just G!!!!!!! 
Annius
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:27 pm
#187
This change isn't going to help the profession. So we get nerfed, and now we are getting made fun of by cutting the req to even become a BH. This is a mockery a sham and a travesty aka a TraviShaMockery!
RandomSHO
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:28 pm
#188
in my eyes, Bh should never have been a profession unto intself. it should have cost 100 skill points to pick up the investigation, and thats it. you should have been able to pick up any profession you wanted to go after bounties.
this change is a long time coming. people have been talking about this since week 1. i know, i was one of them. those three lines are useless to a BH, other than taking up skill points. freeing them up allows you to become a better BH any way you see fit. Not being stuck into a broken or useless cookie cutter template. and yes, people will dabble. thats the driving force of this entire game. the whole basis behond skill points and the professions is to encourage dabbling. BH's are the only profession that rallies against dabbling. guess what, it was here before, and its here to stay. your only saving grace was MBh only left 33 points. now, with MBH leaving 71, you are going to see a huge range of dabblers. get used to it.
Vegitaa
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:28 pm
#189
Just a thought.... Master Bounty Hunter with Lightsaber 4....
So every template will be Jedi/elite combat.. or MBH/additional elite class... not so much a complaint like I said, just a thought. More specifically... Master Lightsabers, Bounty Hunter 3,4,4,2. What do you folks think about that one?
(Although I think this weapon/armour delay issue shouldn't go away just because they gave you some extra SP's now)
Message Edited by Vegitaa on 06-29-2004 04:38 PM
IpigPiachoep
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:30 pm
#191
The reason I never picked up BH was that it was too costly in skill points and not enough power. You could always tell what a BH would use now it's a guessing game, He could be a TKA or a Rifleman or...anything...they are not so cookie cutter any more which makes them a more deadly profession IMHO. Which is why i'm picking it up this friday as soon as it goes live...
duckhat
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:32 pm
#192
Could you possibly raise the pay out on the npc marks to 38k? and maybe add some cool loot they drop ?
Not all bounty hunters want to spend thier time chasing down jedi or play pvp! or stand toe to toe with rancors! some of us really enjoy hunting down npc marks if they paid more and were harder to kill.
BUT WOW THANKS FOR THE LOVE I FEEL SO loved now. a few kind word and actions go along way!
FREEEEEEEEMEEEEEEEEEE!
Arandur
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:33 pm
#193
- First of all, Devs, don't do a game only for Jedis.
If you read the Development forum, 50% of all posts are about Jedis and only concerning Jedis, that in theory, they are 5% of population of this game, then you are doing the first and better changes for the 5% of the popularity, ignoring other professions, like comandos, smugglers, pistoleer, carabineer and Bounty Hunter, only to say some ignored professions.
- We don't want to dabble, then its stupid to delete parts of scout, we want a good and balanced profession with the things that we see in films, dards, traps for humans, a great sort of weapons.
- Fix the professions that you must fix and don't nerf them when they need a fix. What happens with comandos and their heavy weapons? they are useless.
Smugglers don't smuggle.
Bounty Hunters don't hunt.
But yes....Jedis have a complete revamp, with rankings, his own robes, unique weapons (If all people can have a BH armor, mandalorian and jetpak, give all lightsabers).
I think that when people hear something about this game, can imagine to live the adventures of films. A life in Galactic civil War with the corruption of the Empire and the Rebelion. We form part of this life, in films we see several Bounty Hunters and this game is nothing compared with films.
We want to see a Star Wars game, not a documental of Jedi wildlife.
If you read the Development forum, 50% of all posts are about Jedis and only concerning Jedis, that in theory, they are 5% of population of this game, then you are doing the first and better changes for the 5% of the popularity, ignoring other professions, like comandos, smugglers, pistoleer, carabineer and Bounty Hunter, only to say some ignored professions.
- We don't want to dabble, then its stupid to delete parts of scout, we want a good and balanced profession with the things that we see in films, dards, traps for humans, a great sort of weapons.
- Fix the professions that you must fix and don't nerf them when they need a fix. What happens with comandos and their heavy weapons? they are useless.
Smugglers don't smuggle.
Bounty Hunters don't hunt.
But yes....Jedis have a complete revamp, with rankings, his own robes, unique weapons (If all people can have a BH armor, mandalorian and jetpak, give all lightsabers).
I think that when people hear something about this game, can imagine to live the adventures of films. A life in Galactic civil War with the corruption of the Empire and the Rebelion. We form part of this life, in films we see several Bounty Hunters and this game is nothing compared with films.
We want to see a Star Wars game, not a documental of Jedi wildlife.
Feistrola
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:34 pm
#194
Well, the Devs have stated they want BH to be high Offence & low Defence.
By allowing to Dabble with the extra points, BH are going to be able to pick up quite a lot of defence mods...
What about if they Made Bounty Hunter a Complete Class. IE it uses all your Skill Points.
Keep it as Master Marksman, Master Scout & add in the Unarmed Tree of Brawler. This will Leave 4 points left. So, if they dropped Novice BH to 4 points (instead of 6)
This will leave 6 Points - them 6 points can be used to learn one noviceskill of many Elite profession.... The Options are :-
TKA From Brawler Line
Rifleman, Pistoleer, Carbineer from Marksman
Creature Handler, Ranger from Scout
Smuggler, Commando, Squad Leader - Hybrids
Also, at Master Bounty Hunter throw in All the Specials (not defence mods) from Both Carbineer & Pistoleer Lines for the extra Offence.
This would make MBH Powerful, but as they wont be able to pick up any medic skills, it should help balance things out....
tripNatl
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:34 pm
#195
JustG wrote:
... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.
Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.
Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.
The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.
We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...
We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.
This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.
This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.
Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.
This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.
/salute
- g
Thanks G. You don't know how much it sucked to type 'yes' to surrender MBH yesterday. This change will at least allow us to survive until the CB without having to give up too much of our skill set. When you guys are working on the CB though, please remember that not everybody wants to be a TKM or Jedi. I was already resigned to the fact that I'm being forced to become a melee, but now at least I get to keep my guns too! 
The most important issue you can address is the droids. With TEF gone
, we have to have working droids in some form. This is a MASSIVEly Multiplayer Online Game. Personally, I don't even care if they are all that accurate. Just get me to the right quadrant of the right planet, and I'll do the rest. If for whatever reason you guys can't get the droids working again, please at least put the TEF back in for MBH.
To the posters complaining that everybody on the server will be grinding out Invest 3 and hunting Jedi: YIPPEE!!!! The more the merrier! I want those Jedi hearts (<<<oxymoron) pounding from the second they login to the second they logoff from the cloner.