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Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??

WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:05 pm
#170

Jesus H Christ and all his holy saints. Cant any of you stop to think for just 1 freaking minute !!!!


This is not a good idea, I know we are all desperate for some kind of fix but freeing up SP so we can dabble is not the answer and by you all saying it is you are in fact succumbing to TH view that BH are overpowered to the point where they cant ACTUALLY FIX THE SPECIALS WE CURRENTLY HAVE.


Fix means repair what we have NOT GIVE US MORE SP SO YOU CAN NERF OUR SORRY ASSES BACK INTO THE GROUND WHEN ALL THE WEASEL PUMPING JEDI CRY THAT WE CAN KILL THEM WITH OUR UBER L££T FOR THE WIN MASTER TKA INVEST 3 TEMPLATES



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Clamor
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:05 pm
#171

Its definately a start.. JustG Thanks a ton for looking into this, baby-steps works as long as we are moving in the right direction..



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Phazorn
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:06 pm
#172






unde wrote:

TAKE BH OUT OF THE GCW. I cant imagine a Bounty Hunter flying an x-wing. I think for our Bounty Hunters to be as strong as they should be we need to be taken out of the GCW at a certain stage to continue advancement past Master Bounty Hunter. If we are neutral us being strong wont be an imbalance to the game. My Solution:

After Master Bounty Hunter, the player has a choice of entering the BH Trials as a neutral player. There are three trails:

1. Jabba The Hut Trails
2. Valerian Trails
3. Swoop Trails

Trails should involve task to prove yourself to the faction. Each faction specializes in certain areas. When joining the Jabba Faction you will be trained more in carbine, Valerian faction more pistol and Swoop faction more LLC. Every faction will give training in all weapons but each faction specializes in a certain type. For example.

1. Jabba The Hut Specializes in Carbine, therefor we have: Carbine(HIGH) Pistol(MED) LLC(LOW)
2. Valerian : Carbine(MED) Pistol(HIGH) LLC(LOW)
3. Swoop : Carbine(MED) Pistol(MED) LLC(MED) Balanced

RANKING SYSTEM
Upon join the Jabba and Valerian faction you will be entered in a rank system. This is perfect cause, as we know, Jabba and Valerian are enemies. This cannot work like the Light and Dark ranking system(being overt). It has to be done with bounties. You get more bounty xp(invest xp) for killing a member of the enemy faction(Jabba or Valerian) and less xp for Jedi and even lesser xp for smugglers. (Or it can work like the Dark vs. Light system where u become overt at a certain point in your training to your enemy faction.)

Unfair to smugglers? Well Hans Solo didnt get away from his bounty with skill it was more with luck. Which is perfect cause I hear in the smuggler revamp they are getting a luck modifier.

Jedi bounties should only be given by the Empire. I feel it is not the Rebellion way to hire bounty hunters to kill Dark Jedi. Light Jedi(The Rebellion) are more political. This is an awsome idea because the rebellion will once again have that under dog feel to it.

Lastly, The Swoop faction are for those that do not want to compete in a ranking system with an opposing faction.

Thanks for reading.






i see promise in this reply, glad he was first



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Tsunami_Redrum
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:07 pm
#173



I've been asking for this for months so I think it's a good start. I also appreciate the fact that you acknowledged our issues and are implimenting some changes to help us out. The standard "wait until the combat balance" answer would not have cut it after this patch.


I think that if you get this to go live, and fixed the droid tracking issues (Jedi in particular) we would be fine until the combat rebalance. I know the droid tracking issues are difficult to fix, but as a BH this is a critical game-breaking issue for us. We simply can't do our missions without them.




This definately doesn't fix all of our problems. I think the BH profession needs a complete overhaul (like the Jedi) in the combat rebalance. This quick fix should buy you some time,

Message Edited by Tsunami_Redrum on 06-29-2004 06:10 PM





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gtheath
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:09 pm
#174



Woot!

Dasyra
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:09 pm
#175






Smron wrote:

While I do enjoy the fact that I will be able to spend more points on medical or extra combat skills, I really feel that this 'solution' makes the Master BH tag the only thing worth while in mastering the profession... Now I might as well drop my BH, keep Investigations 3, and pick a combat profession that stands a better chance against the Jedi than underpowered BH. Personally, I agree with everyone that said make Jedi Missions available to Master BH so there is at least a reason to master this profession, also so that an artisan can not hunt a Jedi with the right mix of skills.


I'd rather the devs fix Bounty Hunter entirely, or if we got a revamp in the very near future (one that works)... This quick fix could alleviate some of our problems but bring in bigger headaches.







In a way this proves that this is just aband aid and that the Bounty Hunter profession is still broke. At this point there is no reason for me to keep Master Bounty Hunter or even pursue it as there are better combat choices available... Which is why I think BH still has problems. But at least I can do a Command BH now.


Oh just remember you might want to check the amount of point it takes for a base take down crew. You might be able to make a character with all the requirments now as a one man base take down crew.




Das.

"A Jedi uses the Force for knowledge and defense, never for attack."
jefmes
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:11 pm
#176

Aie!!! And here I am today half-way through the last box (Hunting IV) to get Novice Scout, and then to Novice BH - all in the name of destroying the continuity breaking Jedi and making them the most undesirable profession in the game


This is a good step I think JustG, I was really really not wanting to drop Master DE, now I think I can keep it and still fiddle with Bounty Hunter




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Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:12 pm
#177

I understand your point. I too for the most part agree. I have never asked for a skill point requirement reduction, and would prefer the integrity of BH retained.


On the realist point, I recognize that its going to happen. The masses want it. In so much as I feel this change is unavoidable, I want to avoid a total upheaval of the profession. The only way I can see this happening is by moving Jedi hunting to MBH. It is not a pure fix to our issues. I would rather see droids work first, the weapon delay fixed second, our combat fixed third without prereq changes( i always stood by the scout profession, and liked the idea, you can check my past posts).


The fact remains that this change will go through, and I do feel that you can agree with me on that. My request for the moving of jedi hunting to master bh is, in my eyes, the only realistic solution come Friday.





Where life had no value,
Death, sometimes had its price.
That is why the Bounty Killers appeared.

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MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
JeanLaffite
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:13 pm
#178


This is going to open up a huge can of worms. It's equivalent to applying a band-aid to a cut on your legand accidentally slicing your entire leg off in the process.


This will allow everyone and their momma to dabble BH and benefit from it. I know you devs are looking for a quick fix to satisfy the anger of the BH community, however, this is not a fix. Making droids work would be a fix. This just givesan excuse and reason to make BH's suck. Now we are no longer an elite class (requiring two masteries).

Message Edited by JeanLaffite on 06-29-2004 05:16 PM

Witnezz
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:14 pm
#179



WILDMAN_SOLO wrote:
Jesus H Christ and all his holy saints. Cant any of you stop to think for just 1 freaking minute !!!!
This is not a good idea, I know we are all desperate for some kind of fix but freeing up SP so we can dabble is not the answer and by you all saying it is you are in fact succumbing to TH view that BH are overpowered to the point where they cant ACTUALLY FIX THE SPECIALS WE CURRENTLY HAVE.
Fix means repair what we have NOT GIVE US MORE SP SO YOU CAN NERF OUR SORRY ASSES BACK INTO THE GROUND WHEN ALL THE WEASEL PUMPING JEDI CRY THAT WE CAN KILL THEM WITH OUR UBER L££T FOR THE WIN MASTER TKA INVEST 3 TEMPLATES





Jesus H Christ 5 friggin stars for you

we are going to be the dabbler FOTM, then we are going to be accused of being overpowered
then we are going to be nerfed worse then we are at present.

I dont give a good god damn if we are "the red headed step-child".
we have been ignored and neutered while the jedi got their asses kissed and
their slippers brought to them.

THIS IS NOT A SOLUTION, IT'S A DEATH SENTENCE !!!!





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Masterage
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:15 pm
#180

/thank


This type of change should have been implemented long before, but hey at least it only took them1 year. We DO have hope on our multipul bugs and un-balances.



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REIMPLEMENT SKILL BOX LOSS ON PVP DEATH
REIMPLEMENT SABER TEF
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An easy to implement, effective proposal

MagusZDark
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:15 pm
#181



JustG should really conduct a poll wether the lowering the skill points is such a good idea for bounty hunters.

Message Edited by MagusZDark on 06-29-2004 03:17 PM

whoadae
Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:16 pm
#182

someone told me this, I had to come see if you were serious. I'm going to hold off on loggin in till this is changed, I want a jedi/BH. I smell a whole new era of FOTM coming. There is nothing really wrong with a BH now, the problem is its not a profession that cant just spam one special. It actually takes skill and tactics. 2 things most BH players dont have.






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