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Thread: Anonymous Mission Testing and What I Told the Devs

Neekocha
Mon Jul 11, 2005 2:58 pm
#183






MikDiBoken wrote:

Sorry if this has been said before but its late and I've only read afew posts on page 1


how about they add a new command like "/TargetBounty" where it targets your Jedi mission without you having to know their name


that way they can keep the missions anonymous but we can still get the element of surprise.





This idea is so good and seems so simple to implement that they will NOT do it.I bet 1000 credits.

Dewbacca_BHG_
Mon Jul 11, 2005 3:45 pm
#184



Neekocha wrote:


MikDiBoken wrote:
Sorry if this has been said before but its late and I've only read afew posts on page 1
how about they add a new command like "/TargetBounty" where it targets your Jedi mission without you having to know their name
that way they can keep the missions anonymous but we can still get the element of surprise.



This idea is so good and seems so simple to implement that they will NOT do it.I bet 1000 credits.





More likely they will miss read your post, and next publish they will add "/targetBountyhunter" so the Jedi can run a macro that will target any incomming Bounty Hunters to their position.



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AltharXXX
Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:05 pm
#185

/targetBounty still doesn't solve the RyATt trail problems. For names to be removed droids need to at least report which area the jedi is in on kashyyykain (which should happen either way - or there should be quest NPCs on kashyyykain who will help BH find unknown named jedi...)


Also for me the mission terminal should give gender and an image of the jedi so I can tell what they are dressed like.


One thing which comes to mind about this change which I'm supprised all the not-full-template jedi who hijack BH threads haven't caught on to yet -- the new system will mean you wont know you are on the terms till that /duel request gives the BH away. Also it'll be a lot more difficult to get 5 BH to take you mission to keep you off the terms. (Hopefully the devs will have changed this dynamic.)


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Banzai51
Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:14 pm
#186



Skare99 wrote:


Tanks wrote:
The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself).

Wow, These guys are clueless.






Don't give them that benefit of doubt. They are not that clueless. They know exactly what this does to us and don't give a flying ****. They cater to a certain prof because they believe that prof pays the bills.



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NarfBlinko
Mon Jul 11, 2005 7:59 pm
#187






Grisham wrote:





Vlamr wrote:





hanshadow wrote:





Tanks wrote:


Finally got on TC to test.


I got the mission and started tracking.


When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.


It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.


We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strike or any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!


Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.






Tanks, this is no different than it is today. It isn't hard to tell when a BH is approaching. If you are out in the wild, and a blue dot pops up headed toward you, it's probably a BH. If you are in a city, the Jedi can't tell.


What's different again??







The difference with Pub20 is that instead of running after the guy you need to kill. You are now wasting up to 30sec TABing through a list of critters and names. If the jedi is as paranoid as I am when doing PvP, he would be watching his radar like a hawk when grinding. This extra time would give him/her a better chance to run, eat some foods, etc. Basically we are giving them more preperation time. A BH's advantage comes in their element of surprise. So bye bye BH element of surprise.

/ui action waveGoodbyAtElementOfSurprise




Not true at all, it takes you the same amount of time to tab through them now as it's going to when pub 20 comes.






<derogatory ephithat> BHs DON'T have to TAB now, you can /target <name>. THAT is the difference. Clearly, *you* are no Padawan hunter.




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MystraMage
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:02 pm
#188

We should get names at one one point to help us use surprise acording to Napolion Surprise makes your army like 10x its actual size or soemthing like that. well thats what it said in star trek today. but without knowing the names it takes away this aspect of surprise which helps us with the knights
NarfBlinko
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:05 pm
#189






Grisham wrote:





heapum wrote:
If the marks name is going to be annoymous they need to visually depict who your mark is as soon as the BH approaches. Some sort of special coloring of the name or a giant a$$ arrow pointing the the jedi from the sky or somethin. Or give the BH a targeting command to /target current BH mission mark to preserve the first strike ability. Only two ideas I can come up with to preserve jedi anomety on the terms.





you do, you have a BIG BEAM OF LIGHT pointing you right to them






Not on Kashyyyk, we don't. Since AFK grinding is not going away, this will still be the popular grinding spot for Padawan novice to full template Padawan.




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runingbird
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:13 pm
#190

if they emove the duel thing then they need to make it were you can't have a macro running on targeting a player like some of the post suggested to make it fair..
NarfBlinko
Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:30 pm
#191






milkchan wrote:





Quiet420 wrote:






Tanks wrote:


Finally got on TC to test.


I got the mission and started tracking.


When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.


It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.


We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strikeor any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!


Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.





tanks, with all due respect...


play your profession....you saw what happened to the unfortunate Bounty Hunter who attempted to take Han on first contact....make your pass, bide your time, and hit your mark when your ready.


yes, they may know you have theirmission, but they do not choose when you strike.








Han shot first....... think about it.






Lucas corrected this in the Special Edition. The technology of the time was a bit poor, so the fact that Greedo actually fired first was not as apparent. Go back and rewatch the DVD, frame advance if you need to; it clearly shows Greedo firing first. (He happens to be about the lousiest shot in the universe, but....)




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SomeUser
Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:11 pm
#192

Tanks,


Any chance we can get a "Jedi filter" for the BH forums so we can block all the whinny Jedi trolls who continually post here?






Vezek


A_Lamer
Mon Jul 11, 2005 9:22 pm
#193



NarfBlinko wrote:


milkchan wrote:


Quiet420 wrote:


Tanks wrote:
Finally got on TC to test.
I got the mission and started tracking.
When I finally got to the Jedi he was fighting Giant Worts. He was alone, but I simulated regular hunting as most will be with groups and tried to target him via tabbing.
It took me several seconds to TAB over to him. The Jedi knew I was after him before I could even target him. The smart Jedi will start running way before I would be able to target him in most situations. Now, add the fact that /duel is used almost exclusively in most situations to figure out a bounty target by the Jedi, he will know before the BHs.
We really need the Jedi name at some point in the process. The devs at the "FanFest Jedi Focus Group Session" even mentioned that the BH first strike ability makes them equal to full template Jedi in power (which is a fallacy in itself). Well, it is kinda hard to have first strike or any kind of advantage when you have to be almost on top of the Jedi to know who he is!!!
Please make the name of the Jedi available after the Arakyd probe reports the planet location. This would resolve a lot of issues and still stop the so called griefing by gank squads, targeting specific Jedi etc., etc.


tanks, with all due respect...

play your profession....you saw what happened to the unfortunate Bounty Hunter who attempted to take Han on first contact....make your pass, bide your time, and hit your mark when your ready.

yes, they may know you have their mission, but they do not choose when you strike.




Han shot first....... think about it.



Lucas corrected this in the Special Edition. The technology of the time was a bit poor, so the fact that Greedo actually fired first was not as apparent. Go back and rewatch the DVD, frame advance if you need to; it clearly shows Greedo firing first. (He happens to be about the lousiest shot in the universe, but....)




Incorrect, lucas CHANGED the fact that han shot first because apparently being an experienced criminal who's aware of his surroundings doesn't make him a role model. Personally I think lucas needs to unclench and stop trying to turn starwars into a saturday morning cartoon show. Aka the cartoon network clonewars animations.



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walker60
Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:22 pm
#194

A Jedi filter is a good idea. The bounty hunter forums are basically Jedi Forums II. Maybe all the Jedi that poston our forumsgrounded out a full-template jedi in a month and they have nothing else to do.
A_Lamer
Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:24 pm
#195



walker60 wrote:
A Jedi filter is a good idea. The bounty hunter forums are basically Jedi Forums II. Maybe all the Jedi that post on our forums grounded out a full-template jedi in a month and they have nothing else to do.




Alot of them also play BH themselves, but would rather not be hit by the nerf bat yet again, much like us. Besides, considering forum accounts and characters aren't linked, theres no way you could filter them anyway unless they used the jedi/lightsaber avatars, at which point they could set them to disabled and spam up our forums.



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