Bounty Hunter Archive

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WaDD111 wrote:
look at this:
bh and jedi begin fight,blah blah ,then jedi is ___________(out of mind, low of health,etc. fill what you like), shhhhh +Cloak+ , and my opponent full of dots, staying in front of me and wait for regen/dropping dots,channel, or just opening drink in RL.......
i has about 47 min long fight yesterday,and my mark and i cant kill each other.
This skill is broken,its ruins game mechanics,and need to be fixed/nerfed (call it as you like)
1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)
PS
and a last one
after fight begins and jedi goes cloaked,jedi have our "Alpha strike" ability
Unfortunately i have basic english,but i hope you catch my idea.

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KaliMaul wrote:
From one of my posts:

"A few facts are coming.

If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force aura (granted at 0040 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force valor (granted at 0004 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force armor (granted at 0400 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of advanced force heal (granted at 4000 healer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved saber armorbreak and improved saber powerattack (granted at 0400 saber), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of a finely constructed saber and saberthrow (granted at 0004 saber and a +25 exp clothing possibly), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force run 2 (granted at 4000 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force cloak (granted at 0400 powers), it's a retarded cheap move that makes all jedi inhonorable and that ruins your gameplay. Do you want it nerfed? Yes. Do you want it moved to the master box? Yes."

So... all of you who say cloak should go to mpowers, you also think all these abilities should go to the master box? I mean how come a little dabbler can use saber armorbreak, spin, whatever, without MLS? How come a little dabbler can use aura (which is truly an overpowered I WIN button) without MDEF? OMGOMGOMGOMG

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Growlie
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KaliMaul wrote:
From one of my posts:

"A few facts are coming.

If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force aura (granted at 0040 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force valor (granted at 0004 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force armor (granted at 0400 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of advanced force heal (granted at 4000 healer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved saber armorbreak and improved saber powerattack (granted at 0400 saber), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of a finely constructed saber and saberthrow (granted at 0004 saber and a +25 exp clothing possibly), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force run 2 (granted at 4000 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force cloak (granted at 0400 powers), it's a retarded cheap move that makes all jedi inhonorable and that ruins your gameplay. Do you want it nerfed? Yes. Do you want it moved to the master box? Yes."

So... all of you who say cloak should go to mpowers, you also think all these abilities should go to the master box? I mean how come a little dabbler can use saber armorbreak, spin, whatever, without MLS? How come a little dabbler can use aura (which is truly an overpowered I WIN button) without MDEF? OMGOMGOMGOMG

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KaliMaul wrote:
From one of my posts:

"A few facts are coming.

If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force aura (granted at 0040 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force valor (granted at 0004 defender), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved force armor (granted at 0400 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of advanced force heal (granted at 4000 healer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of improved saber armorbreak and improved saber powerattack (granted at 0400 saber), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi kills a BH with the help of a finely constructed saber and saberthrow (granted at 0004 saber and a +25 exp clothing possibly), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force run 2 (granted at 4000 enhancer), it's fine. Do you want it nerfed? No. Do you want it moved to the master box? No.
If a jedi runs away from a BH by using force cloak (granted at 0400 powers), it's a retarded cheap move that makes all jedi inhonorable and that ruins your gameplay. Do you want it nerfed? Yes. Do you want it moved to the master box? Yes."

So... all of you who say cloak should go to mpowers, you also think all these abilities should go to the master box? I mean how come a little dabbler can use saber armorbreak, spin, whatever, without MLS? How come a little dabbler can use aura (which is truly an overpowered I WIN button) without MDEF? OMGOMGOMGOMG

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Do jedi gain anything fighting a BH? NO! Do a BH gain anything? YES, so jedi runs!

If the devs puts reward 4 the jedi to, maybe more jedi will fight and not use cloak and FR!

Actually Jedi cloak can be looked at from several points.

1: In a Jedi/BH confrontation, if a Jedi cloaks, and either runs away, or uses it as a means to regenerate and/or prepare for further battle, then the BH always has the option of either dropping the mission, or running away himself, and wait for another opportunity. In this sense it could be argued as Balanced. Since neither would win or lose, it would be Equal.

2: In a Jedi/BH situations, the Cloak may not be a "I Win Button", but it is definately a "I Wont Lose Button". Cloak is a powerfull escape tool, wich means that a Jedi with such a powerfull tool for survival at his/her disposal has very little fear of gaining Vis because of the ease that a Jedi can escape and survive. Wich IMHO goes against the game mechanics, and should be adressed in some way

3: Jedi Cloak goes beyond the BH/Jedi situations, and spills into the GCW where it can be used as a very powerfull first strike advantage. The ability to easily get into melee striking distance of a target without ever being detected is an extremely strong advantage that is unequaled by any other professions advantages. Even Riflemans Cover doesnt compare. In my opinion THIS is extremely unbalancing.

So in closing, I personally think that Cloak could be tweaked a little as to limit its effectiveness as a offensive tool. Other than that, its doing its job as far as the Jedi/BH situations are concerned.

Looks like we need to nerf more than just cloak after redaing through all posts, most of theelite combat professions needs to be nerfed down to hell*

*Stupid thread, stupid answers

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Message Edited by Koule on 09-13-2005 11:28 AM

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WaDD111 wrote:
look at this:
bh and jedi begin fight,blah blah ,then jedi is ___________(out of mind, low of health,etc. fill what you like), shhhhh +Cloak+ , and my opponent full of dots, staying in front of me and wait for regen/dropping dots,channel, or just opening drink in RL.......
i has about 47 min long fight yesterday,and my mark and i cant kill each other.
This skill is broken,its ruins game mechanics,and need to be fixed/nerfed (call it as you like)
1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)
PS
and a last one
after fight begins and jedi goes cloaked,jedi have our "Alpha strike" ability
Unfortunately i have basic english,but i hope you catch my idea.

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LOL

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GeckoFighter wrote:

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WaDD111 wrote:
look at this:
bh and jedi begin fight,blah blah ,then jedi is ___________(out of mind, low of health,etc. fill what you like), shhhhh +Cloak+ , and my opponent full of dots, staying in front of me and wait for regen/dropping dots,channel, or just opening drink in RL.......
i has about 47 min long fight yesterday,and my mark and i cant kill each other.
This skill is broken,its ruins game mechanics,and need to be fixed/nerfed (call it as you like)
1.increase entering cloak range (33-60m)
2.make longer cooldown
3.move it to master box
4.give bh ability to break cloak (with looong cooldown)
PS
and a last one
after fight begins and jedi goes cloaked,jedi have our "Alpha strike" ability
Unfortunately i have basic english,but i hope you catch my idea.

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LOL

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