Bounty Hunter Archive

Thread: Regarding House-Jedi (Updated 10/14)

Dlek_Krego
Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:37 am
#144






Jimhada_AR wrote:

Lets copy something from the films.. *shock*


Zam Wessel is trying to assassinate Amidala.
Using cunnning rather than straight out attacks, she deploys a slithery insect to despatch her mark.
.....


So BH get a level 10 critter than can infiltrate the house.

The critter should be of a level high/low enough to give the Jedi some options.
1. Log out. They are in a safe house so logging out should be immediate.
2. Sit their /afk whilst the critter gnaws away at their force bar/health bar, in chunks large enough that it will eventually kill the /afk Jedi.
3. The Jedi attacks the critter, thus getting a TEF, and being ejected from the building. No doubt after the Jedi has had a chance to buff themselves.



Far fetched.. you damn right, but you asked for options.
Will never happen though, as I do believe the Jedi should have a sanctuary someplace.





but the options asked for do not include TEF'ing the Jedi from the house....






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Jimhada_AR
Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:46 am
#145






Dlek_Krego wrote:


but the options asked for do not include TEF'ing the Jedi from the house....






True, but in this case, the Jedi has chosen to TEF themself out of the building, rather than having it automatically put on them, which everyone is so adverse to.



The way things are going I can see BH missions stopping, Jedi will soon be the watered down version of the profession they should have been. Now the profession is full of people who dont want to PvP, in what has always been a PvP profession.


Make PvE Jedi a reality, reinstate the FRS, make those that want to PvP have the option to PvP, and those that want the option to be strictly PvE remain so. Keep PvE Jedi at less than a normal profession, give the FRS Jedi the Mods to compete in PvP.


Wont happen either though, no matter what mods you recieve in the FRS, a snared AI, will still be a snared AI, maybe they will have /forcecloak run modifiers...


anyway... back on topic. ..








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DoctorFett
Tue Oct 11, 2005 7:50 am
#146






ok, ejecting jedi from housing is unfair, jedi cloaking or sitting in a house afkis unfair, jedi losing xp for being defeated and gaining nothing for winning is unfair,a bh notbeing able to do anything in return after countless hate tells and harassment tells about hunting a jedi from his friends and the jedi themselves is unfair, heres my idea:


1. Jedi should have a time limit on their cloaking ability (I'm not Jedi so im not sure if this is already in place, i dont care if you flame me about this)


2. Jedi, if they are defeated, should lose no xp, but if they win, be awarded xp on a bases of how creditable a bh is


3. The BH Creditability system works as follows:


a. A BH will get creditability points determined by how many missions they sucessfully completed


b. A BH will be able to view their creditability points


c. A Jedi will also be able to view their creditability points only if a BH has the Jedi's mission


d. The amount of creditability points a BH has will determine what level of mission he can take


4. If a BH is defeated, he loses creditability points which will hinder him from aquiring hire paying missions, but if he wins, he will get his money and an amount of creditability points that corresponds with the level of teh Jedi


5. A BH ability to take a certain level of a Jedi mission will be determined by his creditability points


a. Level 1: 2000-3000 points (Padawans)


b. Level 2: 3001-4750 points (Knights)


c. Level 3: 4751-7000 points (Guardians)


d. Level 4: 7001-10000 (capped) points (Masters)


6. When a BH has enough creditability points to get missions from teh next level, he cannot take missions that are from the level he came from


7. Once a BH aquires a mission, a Warning Mode will be announced to the Jedi whose mission was aquired, this allows Jedi the notification that a BH is on his way and gives him ample time to prepare, but in addition, the Jedi cannot enter a private structure for approxiamately 1 or 2 hours after the notification was given


8. A BH can have aid with him only if the Jedi is of high level and power


a. Jedi classified as Padawans can only have 1 BH on them


b. Jedi classified as Knights can have 1 BH on them


c. Jedi classified as Guardians can have 2 BH's on them


d. Jedi classified as Masters can have 2 BH's on them


9. The Jedi's name will be given on the BH terminal


10. The Jedi when notified, will be given the strength of the BH in some form of a saying


a. Level 1 BH: You feel aslight disturbance in the Force.


b. Level 2 BH: A strong sense of danget overcomes you.


c. Level3 BH: You have a deep feeling of iminent danger upon you


d. Level 4 BH: You feel a strong disturbance in the Force, a dangerous foe seeks to find you


11. When the BH and Jedi engage in battle, no one from outside of the fight can aid either side


12. If a Jedi defeats 2 BH's, then he will recieve double the xp from each BH he would normally get


13. If 2 BH's aid each other in the fight and both have the same mission and they win, then the money and credability points are split between them


14. Creditability points can be redeemed to "BH Vendors" designated in specific spots all over the galaxy for such items as follows:


a. Seeker Droids (20)-25 points


b. Probe Droids (10)-50 points


c. Explosive Proximity Mines (used as extra damage to Jedi in combat) (25)-200 points


d. Assasin Droid (used as counterpart in battle, works like a pet) (1)-500 points


e. Advanced Assasin Droid (same as Assasin Droid only cause more damage) (1)-1000 points


15. If a BH caps his creditability points, he will become known as an Alpha BH


16. If an Alpha BH gets a Jedi mission, the Jedi will have a notification as follows:


a. A tremendous depression of the Force is felt, danger is now upon you


b. A Jedi will also recieve the name of the Alpha BH


17. A Jedi will also not be able to log out in the middle of combat with a BH, as also with the BH


18. Before a deathblow is administered, the Jedi is given the oppurtunity to use 25-50% of their Force depeding on their level to revive themselves


19. The BH or the Jedi cannot leave the planet, or when the BH or Jedi leaves the planet, the other party is given the name of the planet that the BH or Jedi traveled to and what city they went to (this can be decided by whomever cares)


20. A Jedi who is killed is given a 3 day period of grace where their mission isnt on the BH terminal or where they cant be attacked by a BH, if a BH is killed, he cannot aquire another Jedi mission for 1 day


21. The Jedi sanctuary of Kashyyyk will stand as a hunting ground with no penalties to aquireing xp there, although a BH would recieve the target's exact location i.e. Rryatt Trail, Kworir Forest, Myydrill Caverns and the level on in which the Jedi is located in those areas


22. Jedi will get sanctuaries in remote parts of each planets in which they can recharge force or clone to if killed, only Jedi that are not in combat though can enter it


23. All BH's with level of Alpha will have a tag above their head stating so


24. The description of the Jedi's mission will change if he is killed, the payout will increase or decrease if he lives or is killed


25. A BH can only hold a mission for5 days,at that time, he loses the mission and is penalized with a deduction of a few creditability points


My plan here is subject to change to whomever cares to add, remove, or edit something









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Vlherg
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:25 am
#147






Jimhada_AR wrote:

Lets copy something from the films.. *shock*


Zam Wessel is trying to assassinate Amidala.
Using cunnning rather than straight out attacks, she deploys a slithery insect to despatch her mark.
.....


So BH get a level 10 critter than can infiltrate the house.

The critter should be of a level high/low enough to give the Jedi some options.
1. Log out. They are in a safe house so logging out should be immediate.
2. Sit their /afk whilst the critter gnaws away at their force bar/health bar, in chunks large enough that it will eventually kill the /afk Jedi.
3. The Jedi attacks the critter, thus getting a TEF, and being ejected from the building. No doubt after the Jedi has had a chance to buff themselves.



Far fetched.. you damn right, but you asked for options.
Will never happen though, as I do believe the Jedi should have a sanctuary someplace.







We better copy the rest of that scene from the movie then


When the Jedi comes out of the house, the bounty hunter runs away.

The Jedi catches the bounty hunter and cuts off their hand thus causing the BH to fail their mission.

Because they failed their mission another BH kills the failed BH and they suffer permadeath.


Yeah, I like it. Sounds good.



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Cphopp
Tue Oct 11, 2005 8:58 am
#148






SamousNemo wrote:





Phaelyn wrote:

Can we get some clarification on that? The way it reads seems to say "Even if a majority of the BH community wants this, I will not do it". Or is it that you know from the Correspondent boards that this particular issue will never be listenened to?




I would lean more towards the latter







sooooooooooooooo.........why post the sticky and get this whole shindig started when you know its never going to be listened to and is a dead issue?




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Cphopp
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:02 am
#149






masselin wrote:
Except that impatient BHs aren't the issue.

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i disagree. the only bh who complains that his mark is notconvenientlyattackable is an impatient bh.





QFE



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Cphopp
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:04 am
#150






Nomikan wrote:
how about give the jedi a reason to fight.. Jedi have lots of reason to run or hide. but say if the jedi wins the fight let it clear his visabilty for a few days or maybe some other incentive to fight that way both parties can have more fun...





Now here's an idea that could bear looking into...Jedi lose visibility for a couple days...up to devs to decide how long...after they kill a bounty hunter...win/win situation jedi wants to stay n fight and kill BH...or come out of house if just there to piss off bounty hunters...and of course the BH wants to kill the jedi lol



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Cphopp
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:07 am
#151






Werewolfzz wrote:





jlutz11 wrote:

All of you BH that are crying about jedi in houses are missing the point.


Until jedi have a reason to fight you, we will continue to avoid you. There is no point in me fighting you whatsoever (this point has been made countless times before). I gain nothing, but have a lot to lose. I don't see any of you crying about making it worth a jedi's time by giving yourself somthing to lose. If Jedi knew that there would be equal penalty to a BH for losing, I guarentee that we would be much more likely to come out and fight. As it stands now, most of us use our houses as a protest. We are not afraid of you. We are not afraid of losing xp, after all it can be made up. We are just sick and tired of being your game content when we dont want to be and when we have ABSOLUTLY no incentive to do so, and NOTHING to gain from it.


Someone Please give me 1 good reason to fight a BH. There are none. When the game is changed and you actually have somthing to lose and there is actually risk involved then i will come out and fight, until then expect long waits while i am in my house AFK playing X-BOX..



By the way....In the movies, when a bounty hunter attacked a jedi, he always had something to lose. He had to risk his life while trying to take out his mark. Where is the risk in what you do?


I'm not coming out of my house, until i have a good reason to. And i don't really give a crap that it waste your time, droids, money, or makes you have a bad day.








Although I dont approve of the fashion in which Jedi pose ideas (although it's understandable in this particular situation... postin this thread of all places... sheesh),...

THIS is a very valid point...

What in fact... what DO the Jedi have to gain from killing us???

As Sun Tsu said in "The Art of War", It truly is SOMETHING to view the world from your enemy's eyes!!

I say we lose the something, ANYTHING, for losing to a Jedi.... perhaps the bounty we were to gain!!!

And if we don't have the suficient funds to cover the loss.... then ALL of our earnings (till we work off the debt) go to the Jedi for defeating us... after all... WE ARE IN IT FOR THE MONEY (aside from the pride... hehe... )





One problem...BHs are hardly ever contracted to kill someone...you see a WANTED poster up somewhere...and the first one to bring in their head gets payment


not too many instances in canon or anywhere else bounty hunters getting punished for losing to their mark....cause ya know what...if a BH lost to their mark...getting punished by their "employer" would probably be the least of their worries





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Cphopp
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:11 am
#152






GlargTheKelfn wrote:





Smuggly1 wrote:

stuff






that's why they call it hunting, not killing.

and that's why it's called fishing, not catching





OOooo I like that =0 I'm writing that down...


oh..and QFE



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KammaRocca
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:19 am
#153






SalvationVsScin wrote:

Honestly...can BHs ever make up their minds? There is a post stating to "kill all afk jedi because they were too stupid to log OR GO TO THEIR HOUSE". Now you want to complain that you can't get the jedi out of their house....It's ok for you to come kill us in the middle of grinding templates but not ok for us to mess up a mission or 2 of yours. Jedi knew when they became jedi that they would be hunted by BHs...yes (not the very first ones that is). By now, you'd think at least, the BHs would understand that if you hunt Jedi...you won't always fight them. I fail to remember the contract that SOE sat on my desk when I unlocked 10 months ago saying that I had to PvP every BH that came at me, that I couldn't sit in my private house AFK, and that my $15 a month was no longer worth as much as everyone elses.


Sorry...Just P.O.ed that BHs contradict themselves on here all the time...and even on the same page


/flameon like always...because you're going to try and defend yourselves now...




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bmill
Tue Oct 11, 2005 9:44 am
#154

Wow..... the unmitigated crying that goes on here is astounding.


Why don't we just have a Space to Land strike option where either Rebel or Imperial Space Cruisers orbiting a planet would rain turbolaser death into a 500m square area surrounding a Jedi's house, thus killing everything in the area?


Simple.... clean..... effective.



ROFL!!!!! Seriously, it's not such a big issue, and if we make it one, the developers will simply remove Bounty Hunting Jedi alltogether as the answer. Jedi SHOULD have a place to hide from us. :::insert tired old "they know the risk" argument here::: Duly noted, but it's unfair to take away every opportunity a Jedi has to hide from us.


I support removing the possibility of entering a faction base while wearing the BH TEF, I support being able to chase Jedi into space and attacking them there. I support BH droids working on Kashyyyk specifically in the instanced areas. However, I do NOT support BH's forceably removing Jedi from a private structure if they were there BEFORE I arrive.





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M4dC4t
Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:28 am
#155

Are you BH's really that stupid, if the devs make it so we can't go put ourselves in a house an dgo eat lunch or go to the restroom with out thinking will I be dead when I return is the day you will see alot of accounts go cancel. I have a BH so don't flame me for Trolling, my BH only hunts NPC's cause I know and understand what it takes to get eh XP a Jedi has.


Remember this we are your content and we have none without us you have nothing to log in for, so haha, you get your ideas passed an dloose your content go ahead I am about sick of all the f'n nerfs anyway.



Real target lock is needed
More Profs are needed
SOE and all the Nerf people need to realize that a true balance is an unbalance.
Cyclonus-
Tue Oct 11, 2005 10:34 am
#156

The whining, stupidity, and crying for nerfs in this thread is the worst I have seen in my 13 months on the forums.


You know what this calls for...




Cry more noob, then go see Learn 2 Play



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