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Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??

Craxus
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:32 pm
#131

I don't like this at all.

Bounty hunter will still be useless, but everyone will have investigation 3box and thats it!


THis is a terrible idea. Think about it as a bounty hunter you will only need to be master marksman (77) exploration (29) and investigation (18) thats only 124 sp!!!


If you want bounty hunter to endure as a profession and become something special I think this will hurt more than help. I think ther idea is that it will force you to use one weapon but noy you will have TKA BHs!!!


This is bad don't you see YOU WILL BE EFFECTIVELY PENATLIZED FOR BEING A MASTER BH!!!!!


Say no to this say fix it right we will wait.


WHY EVEN TAKE ANY BH SKILLS OTHER THAN INVESTIGATION 3? if you can be a MASTER TKA with enough points left for the dodge pistoleer tree too.


Do you realize now that every rifleman that is out there now will be able to hunt Jedi without your help?


Every character will be able to hunt juedi with a few exceptions. You will not be unique you will be part of the faceless; nameless crowd of templioters you have hated some much.

I've heard your complaints I understand you want action know but I would rather see aprofession over hall in 3 months than the complete destruction of it now.

I ASK ALL MASTER BOUNTY HUNTERS TO TAKE A STAND!


don't let them turn bounty hunter into a dabblers profession.





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Vorean Blade, Elder Jedi (Yeah my Glow stick is faster than your's)
DrakeWindwalker
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:32 pm
#132
Add defenses.



Also a great idea to make the BH the ture jedi hunters add defenses that only work ver sabers and force powers



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Dyna
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:34 pm
#133
Here's what you can do right now:


1) Reduce starship wait times from 10 min to 5 min.... - 95% of my BH missions currently consists of waiting for the damn shuttle. The 5 min for local flights hardly helped us, because we use planet flight 90% of the time.

2) Add some defenses to BH skill boxes - You said yourself you would balance things properly at the revamp, so why worry about adding a few extra skills right now to do a quick fix? Things will be balanced properly later after you said.

3) Add some attack power to BH skill boxes - Same story, do a quick fix now, to solve the biggest problems

4) Give us a mission payment worthy of the trouble we went through - Nerfing our missions because jedi's have a problem is a very bad solution

5) Make the penalty of dying for a jedi big enough, so they fear us again. - Without someone keeping jedi down, this will get into Jedi Wars Online, instead of SWG


And don't take to long please, I'm seriously debating right now if I will quit BH and SWG after yet another BH nerf brought by pub 9.




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WILDMAN_SOLO
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:35 pm
#134




aibo220 wrote:




JustG wrote:


... There are many many things that we can do to help out your profession, given time.


Some of the things will be addressed bythe ol' "Combat Balance" mantra ... but not soon enough for you I am sure.


Other things are proving VERY difficult for us to track down. The 0 0 0 waypoint issue is quite a bear andwe are putting in still more logging tomorrow, but again, not soon enough for you I am sure.


The Jedi XP issue is requiring programming time which we don't have. We are trying to work it in, but again not soon enough for you.


We want to help out your profession as soon as possible. So that being said, as soon as we can get it through test ...


We are going to remove the Trapping, Hunting, and Survival Scout lines from the Bounty Hunter prerequisites.


This should give you and additional 48 skill points to add to the 33 you had left over for a total of 81 additional point to spend as you please.


This is something that we have been considering for a long time, and wanted to do as part of the CB, but we need you to be as effective as possible against Jedi as soon as possible. This is a start.


Your other issues are known, and in varying stages of development, but we want you to know that things are going to get better. Hopefully rapidly.


This change will be hitting Test Center tomorrow afternoon, and should be Live by Friday.


/salute


- g






JustG... Your attitude is very unsatisfying.


As if we are in the wrong for being upset with our broken professian and don't have enough patience.


Well guess what JustG... We don't have the patience nor should we. You nerfed our professian while buffing others. All BH had was offense which you took away from us with no compensation of defense. And the bountys have been screwed up since launch.


There is no excuse you can make other then to just admitting you are a flake. We are tired of your lies and attitude.


And sure we can wait an entire year for you to fix this professian, but not when we are paying $15 a month. You are working on our time, our dollar. BH is a more favored professian then ID and SL yet you already did ID and planning on SL. Get your act together already.


And then you waste all this time on something stupid like Jedi, which was much better before publish 9, and don't even get that right.


You developers seriously need to get your act together.






Amen Brother



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SpecWar1
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:36 pm
#135
Im trying out the Switching between weapons and its down right dumb! Kockdown an animal then switch over to pistol and the animal is up and running by the time your ready to fire!



TAKE THIS OUT!


Timer has to go its going to killl us!
nolan007
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:37 pm
#136







Here is the $1,000,000 question:


Should only Master Bounty Hunters have access to Jedi missions now?


If not, I suspect many players will only grab Investigation 3.









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Krayvex
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:38 pm
#137
wow. you guys are so desperate you'll call anything a victory.


You've now got 40-some odd extra points to dump into pistol or carb that won't help you get through a jedi saber block anymore than before.


I guess you could pick up some tka so you can actually hit them.



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MauiWarrior
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:39 pm
#138
i dont like it. i mean there are going to be alot more master bhs now if they remove thos lines. i say master scout/master marksman i good, just make master bh better! add d, just add some stuff. i was also thinking, it would be fun to have e melee bh, like master brawler/master scout, to get to brawler bh. lol i think it would be kinda cool. cause im sure not all bhs used pistols and carbines. im sure there were few out there with a vibro axe or some stuff. anyways, dont remove thos scout lines. dats all i gots to say.



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MagusZDark
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:41 pm
#139
Reposting because Garva is an idiot.




With the news with regards to the Bounty Hunter changes that will give Bounty Hunters more skill points to dabble on to other professions. This can lead to better accuracy or defenses and in some occasions- both. But are we willing to give up our “uniqueness” for an easy solution? Here is a list of Pros and Cons of what could come out of the Bounty Hunter profession.


Pros in regards to lowering the SP requirements:


- Obviously more skill points to chose from. This may lead to added defense, improvement in accuracy and speed.


- No “cookie-cutter” Bounty Hunters anymore. In some way every Bounty Hunter will have their own unique way of fighting.


That’s basically what the main supporters say about the lowered skill point idea. Now on to the Cons:


- Can very well destroy any concept of human traps since the trap tree is not required.


- May lead to more dabblers into the 3-0-0-0 template.


- Doesn’t fix Bounty Hunter specials we have now


- Bounty Hunters won’t feel as they are a profession that is “a class of their own”


That’s what I have heard from the Con side of the story.


Now, I am going to say that I am against the whole idea of skill points for the reasons I listed alone. It just wouldn’t feel right if SP were reduced, but that’s just my personal opinion. What do you guys think?

evhorizon
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:41 pm
#140
Thank you

This post has made my day. The only problem is you might have BH/TKM's running around, but not me!!

Thanks again!





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Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:43 pm
#141
Civic Bh i have looked at both sides.

History lesson. In the days of yore, there was a template. It involved going pistoleer, then coming over and picking up eye shot, or bh pistol 4, and ignoring the rest of the tree. The problem was that everyone saw eyeshot being done to them, and was upset saying BH were overpowered. No one realized that the issue was not with bh, but instead with the pistoleer using bh skillsissue.


The same is going to happen. I feel it is a good change in and of itself. It will broaden the class in a sense. IT is dangerous though! With this people will want to pick up bh for eyeshot again. Thats really the only reason I see it happening. This will probably finally move eyeshot to the master box. This was resisted last time, but probably wont now. Other than that I do not see to many ill affects. Spray shot is our best carbine attack. It would be best I think to switch the lightning attacks as single is a more reliable attack and better at master(thats just me though).


The key is jedi hunting at master. Without this jedi hunting for the mbh will be worthless as you will be able to choose much better templates than an actual bh.

Master needs to mean something.


IF YOU DROP THE PREREQ YOU MUST MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO MASTER



Where life had no value,
Death, sometimes had its price.
That is why the Bounty Killers appeared.

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MAKE DROIDS WORK OR THIS IS ALL POINTLESS.
FIX THE WEAPON SWITCH
MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO STALKER RANK
GIVE MBH A SIGNIFICANT BOOST TO PLAYER TRACKING(SO THEY CAN BE MBH)
Dewdus
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:44 pm
#142
First off, thank you.

Some ideas are +1 difficulty at Invest 4. Plus 50+ at Master. Master BHs do not run missions because they are not hard, and there is no reward. If you threw in some very high end NPCs (maybe Force Senstive ones) with some suitable cash that would be great to have until Jedi issues are straightened out, and Combat Balance occurs. I would love to get paid 75K to go after an NPC that has a serious chance of kicking my butt even if i am buffed and armored.



Ruldon Otta
Master Bounty Hunter
Pie
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:44 pm
#143
Ko-aIri wrote: "You do of course realize that this change allows virtually any master combat profession to simply avoid the weapon trees of bounty hunter, pick up Investigation III, and hunt Jedi to their heart's content.



This is important. Along with this change, JustG, you almost HAVE to make Jedi missions MBH only. I believe that the reason they are not there already is to avoid cookie-cutter MBHs chasing Jedi so now with more skillpoints you do not have to fear that as much.
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