Bounty Hunter Archive
Thread: Bounty Hunters... what can Dev do Right Now??
Charunks
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:46 pm
#144
/agree
Pie wrote:
Ko-aIri wrote: "You do of course realize that this change allows virtually any master combat profession to simply avoid the weapon trees of bounty hunter, pick up Investigation III, and hunt Jedi to their heart's content.
This is important. Along with this change, JustG, you almost HAVE to make Jedi missions MBH only. I believe that the reason they are not there already is to avoid cookie-cutter MBHs chasing Jedi so now with more skillpoints you do not have to fear that as much.
Qui-Gonzalez
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:46 pm
#145
Southwick wrote:
Civic Bh i have looked at both sides.
History lesson. In the days of yore, there was a template. It involved going pistoleer, then coming over and picking up eye shot, or bh pistol 4, and ignoring the rest of the tree. The problem was that everyone saw eyeshot being done to them, and was upset saying BH were overpowered. No one realized that the issue was not with bh, but instead with the pistoleer using bh skillsissue.
The same is going to happen. I feel it is a good change in and of itself. It will broaden the class in a sense. IT is dangerous though! With this people will want to pick up bh for eyeshot again. Thats really the only reason I see it happening. This will probably finally move eyeshot to the master box. This was resisted last time, but probably wont now. Other than that I do not see to many ill affects. Spray shot is our best carbine attack. It would be best I think to switch the lightning attacks as single is a more reliable attack and better at master(thats just me though).
The key is jedi hunting at master. Without this jedi hunting for the mbh will be worthless as you will be able to choose much better templates than an actual bh.
Master needs to mean something.
IF YOU DROP THE PREREQ YOU MUST MOVE JEDI HUNTING TO MASTER
I too have to bang this drum. Move the hunting of FS into Master box. You can go MBH with TK 0444 and have 4 lil leftover points to spare. Funny thing, you get no terrain negotiation bonus at 4000 Scout. The terrain bonus is at level 3, so what the hell, give us those extra 5 points.
Gonz
valblood
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:47 pm
#146
Fine if you do this for BH then give us back our 24 skill pts we had to spend on useless force sensitive trees......so we can dabble too. I mean come on. And make it so Jedi missions can only be taken by MBH.
And while youre at it why dont you put in player bounties for the BH.....use all that negative faction pts we have.....say you have neg. hutt faction....have the hutts put a bounty out on you.....geeze is it really that hard to implement something like this. would make the game more exciting for everyone....not just BH vs. Jedi.
Ariven
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:47 pm
#148
Pie wrote:
Ko-aIri wrote: "You do of course realize that this change allows virtually any master combat profession to simply avoid the weapon trees of bounty hunter, pick up Investigation III, and hunt Jedi to their heart's content.This is important. Along with this change, JustG, you almost HAVE to make Jedi missions MBH only. I believe that the reason they are not there already is to avoid cookie-cutter MBHs chasing Jedi so now with more skillpoints you do not have to fear that as much.
If a bounty hunter profession is supposed to be the live limitation of jedi, and jedi are supposed to be scarce then I say all the more power to dabblers!
I dont mind having hundreds more people out there hunting the jedi into oblivion because that is our MANDATE... to hunt..
DrkSensei
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:47 pm
#149
Since it is Christmas( or it is snowing somewhere warm obviously /grin) Could we get more LLC accuracy and a fix for fast blast?
mescalinex
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:48 pm
#150
i ve been waiting for news like this for..ohhhhhhh 18 MONTHS or so.
good to hear.
RazaelDemron
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:48 pm
#151
A large part of why these pre-reqs are being dropped is there ISN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE HUNTING JEDI WHO ARE FULLY CAPABLE. Saying it should be moved to Master is saying that there should be less. There shouldn't be less.
Khavren_Gorath
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:49 pm
#152
Hunting FS or any player character will definately need to be moved to MBH.
Otherwise, all MBH will stand for is "Boatload of wasted skillpoints"
Otherwise, all MBH will stand for is "Boatload of wasted skillpoints"
Southwick
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:50 pm
#153
YOu will have many different new bh now. And many different forms ie. COMMANDO bh, smuggler mbh, swordsman, teras kasi, etc etc.
THe key is moving JEDI TO MBH only. I havent looked at the breakdown but without this you could potentially have combat med. bounty hunter..and some other crazy combos that would ruin the game. MBH ONLY wil lmake this work.
Khavren_Gorath
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:51 pm
#154
RazaelDemron wrote:A large part of why these pre-reqs are being dropped is there ISN'T ENOUGH PEOPLE OUT THERE HUNTING JEDI WHO ARE FULLY CAPABLE.
Ummmm...wouldn't fixing BH instead of just giving it out to everybody else, have accomplished the same result?
If the BH prof worked as advertised, this wouldn't be an issue.
Displeased
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#155
Wow. This is fantastic news. This will actually get me playing my BH again. 
Now...what to spend the skill points on...
For those concerned about dabbling, there's a bright side to this in that any person can choose an elite profession of their choice to use as a BH. I've personally always liked the idea I've read suggested in here of allowing BH to be more of a hunting class where you take it up just to learn those skills to hunt marks and use other professions for your weapons skills. This is a pretty good start on that. If you really wanted, you could take up BH for the mark hunting and then have enough skill points for a decent array of choices of fighting styles. Ideally, BH would be only investigation skills, traps, and the like, but this is fine in the mean time.
Now...what to spend the skill points on...
For those concerned about dabbling, there's a bright side to this in that any person can choose an elite profession of their choice to use as a BH. I've personally always liked the idea I've read suggested in here of allowing BH to be more of a hunting class where you take it up just to learn those skills to hunt marks and use other professions for your weapons skills. This is a pretty good start on that. If you really wanted, you could take up BH for the mark hunting and then have enough skill points for a decent array of choices of fighting styles. Ideally, BH would be only investigation skills, traps, and the like, but this is fine in the mean time.
Message Edited by Displeased on 06-29-2004 03:03 PM
Camrux
Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:52 pm
#156
Pie wrote:
Ko-aIri wrote: "You do of course realize that this change allows virtually any master combat profession to simply avoid the weapon trees of bounty hunter, pick up Investigation III, and hunt Jedi to their heart's content.
This is important. Along with this change, JustG, you almost HAVE to make Jedi missions MBH only. I believe that the reason they are not there already is to avoid cookie-cutter MBHs chasing Jedi so now with more skillpoints you do not have to fear that as much.
I agree, wholeheartedly with making Jedi missions MBH only. Makes sense really, who other than a Master bounty hunter would try to take on a Jedi anyway.
2 other issues I feel need to be reconsidered
1 - The timer for weapon and armor equip. Hurts us a whole bunch in many ways, in PVE I like to use my scatter to throw a quick bleed on a target and switch to my LLC (I'm a 4/2/2/3 BH) to finish them. I think having to wait a little is OK but atm it is too long.
2 - Jedi in starports waving sabers about should be targetable by everyone, really if they are strong enough they should have to pay the price for it. At least consider making it so they get a TEF when doing it in NPC cities.
Thanks for the attention
Marcelleus - BH - Bria