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Thread: Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?
Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-24-2005 11:12 AM
Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-24-2005 11:20 AM
Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-24-2005 11:21 AM
And you missed the point that Blix is not the guy for any other content.
Sardokhan wrote:
Thats not the point Tanks.Just a wonder that the devs must make the work , (they should make into the normal work time into the week) in the personal free time.Only to make sure that the Players get the Content , they are waiting for now already Month or Years long.
By the way it has nothing to do with the pet project for some Players.It has to do with the fact that many Player miss the Content that should be inside the Game since release of the Game.Content the peoples heard about already Years and Month ago , as example i wanna say only the forgotten Battle Droid publish (Expansion).
Quiet420 wrote:
EEMAN wrote:
you will notice within just a few posts the jedi had already invaded the thread and assumed their typical 'if its not about me then it doesnt need to happen' political spin. I think the negative posts are really all focused at him and perhaps thats why people perceive it as many people blasting blix.
you need to reread the thread, objectively, without bias.
without bias? Your the idiot jedi hijacker that immediately said 'because smuggler have last ditch they arent entitled to ANYTHING ELSE'... and you are telling ANYONE to be without bias? look in the mirror bro.. thats a glass house behind you.
How about an equally bias'ed and equally rediculous statement. Jedi shoudlnt get to use their lightsabers as long as they get a second character slot!
Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-24-2005 11:17 AM
Blixtev wrote:
Hasun wrote:
This isn't even one of our top 5 issues and its been addressed. This stinks. Smugglers were promised missions about 6 months ago and all they got from there "revamp" was a slicing systems that was changed 3 days before going live.Jedi are the most hated profession ingame by the majority of professions, because of there constant attention, but recently I noticed alot of hostility towards bounty hunter because of the "attention" we are recieving.I am beginning to wonder if this is the start of a master plan by SOE to takeaway player hatred from the jedi and place it on the BH's.If we continue to get things we don't ask for while glaring exploits, bugged ridden professions and broken promises of revamps, many more professions will turn on us.What really is bugging me though is if the development wants to show us love, why not combat one of our top issues like
- Offline missions showing up in huge numbers on mission terms
- Droids on Kashyyyk not tracking or giving names
- None of our states stick on a regular basis in PvP
All that will happen after this patch is ALL jedi alts and None PvP players will respec to MBH in the hope of looting some pearls or a cash cow, seeing a massive increase in our profession, again making smugglers, squad leaders, rangers, entertainers, etc hate us.
Why must it always be a conspiracy theory? It is as simple as I was working on BH/Jedi missions and ran a few NPC missions and went "Wow, these are lame, Why would anyone want to do these?" So I came into work over a weekend and made some new challenging Marks, created some new loot, and re-itemized.It was as simple as something was lame, I thought I could make it better, and fixed it up in my freetime.
Not everyone is about the PvP game, and even those that are like a bit of respite from it every now and then. Plus with nice new loot on there, who wouldn't want to kill some Marks?
Thank you Blixtev.
We all greatly appreciate the hard work you have been doing lately, and more than that, we appreciate the communication coming from you, as it appears that you are the only one who ever gives us information that is useful and true.
My question though, is that if this is all content that can be revamped by a single person over a weekend, then I'm even more disappointed in the entire SOE organization for their inattention to areas of the game that have been long ignored.
Hasun....with all due respect:
yes, people still play entertainer....
as for your weekend, that sucks, there is a bug, you knew about it, there's a ton of other things you could have done....if anything, you should be happy about the npc missions because they give you something BH related to do that doesn't involve hunting players, perfect for situations like these, anyway speaking of hunting players...did your feelings get hurt by the hate tell? well, imagine how they felt, instead of dealing with a hate tell...for oh, 2.5 seconds untilyou typed /addignore, they had to regrind for hours...I'm not saying you deserve it, or they didn't deserve being hunted, but you should, if not expect it, be prepared for it. It comes with the job.
I believe Tanks singled your out, maybe...just maybe...because you started the thread. ya think?
this change does more for the BH profession in a few hours than any of the other top 5 could accomplish as far as making the game more enjoyable and fun for players of all types, if your intent was to find out about the issues, why the title?
if you never played a smuggler, if you are a BH, and if everything else you said is true....again...why the title? doesn't seem like you had the purest of intentions, not saying that you didn't...just doesn't read that way. Smugglers need work, BH's need the offline Jedi to clear. Period. complaining about good things that benefit your profession and don't hurt anyone elses just doesn't make sense.
Sardokhan wrote:
And you missed the point that Blix is not the guy for any other content.I know , but i talk not only about Blix or about the smuggler revamp.Just that i cant understand why things get changed so soon and other things we heard frome and we all waiting for now month and years long looks like never comes.Message Edited by Sardokhan on 07-24-2005 11:17 AM
you might as well stand by for the fan-boy's to say that smuggling missions are infinitely much more complex. They act as if they have never been lied to repeatedly and given some ultra-watered down version of what is promised. They would be right IF we actually get something in depth. But consider just how many things come out so far from the actual 'in concept' thread. Take those amazing CU documents, whether you are for or against the CU changes can you honestly say that it is anything LIKE those documents? So debate the point, I welcome it, but unless you have absolute first hand real knowlege you can share, please dont use the arguement about mission complexity because history has shown time and time again... we're probably gonna get some delivery missions with the word Smuggler written on it 'right here as clear as purple crayon'. Definitely something capable of being done over a weekend. Again this is by no means an attack against blix since he doesnt touch smuggler. Consider it more directed at the supposed devs that never post on the forums. Something easily treatable with a little communication.
nikko11 wrote:
Thank you Blixtev.
We all greatly appreciate the hard work you have been doing lately, and more than that, we appreciate the communication coming from you, as it appears that you are the only one who ever gives us information that is useful and true.
My question though, is that if this is all content that can be revamped by a single person over a weekend, then I'm even more disappointed in the entire SOE organization for their inattention to areas of the game that have been long ignored.
Blixtev did not create new content. He took an existing system and tweaked some numbers in loot tables and / or mission generator code which is way less of a time involvement than creating new content.
Eskie wrote:
nikko11 wrote:
Thank you Blixtev.
We all greatly appreciate the hard work you have been doing lately, and more than that, we appreciate the communication coming from you, as it appears that you are the only one who ever gives us information that is useful and true.
My question though, is that if this is all content that can be revamped by a single person over a weekend, then I'm even more disappointed in the entire SOE organization for their inattention to areas of the game that have been long ignored.
Blixtev did not create new content. He took an existing system and tweaked some numbers in loot tables and / or mission generator code which is way less of a time involvement than creating new content.
so your saying that the problem with every loot drop issue in the game could easily be fixed by a single programmer or two in a few hours over some beers... which is probably true. Starting to really give more merit to this whole India programmer outsourcing theory...
Message Edited by EEMAN on 07-24-2005 02:32 PM
EEMAN wrote:
without bias? Your the idiot jedi hijacker that immediately said 'because smuggler have last ditch they arent entitled to ANYTHING ELSE'... and you are telling ANYONE to be without bias? look in the mirror bro.. thats a glass house behind you.
Quiet420 wrote:
Hasun....with all due respect:
yes, people still play entertainer....
maybe humour is lost on you or maybe it evapourates before it reaches your pedestal
as for your weekend, that sucks, there is a bug, you knew about it, there's a ton of other things you could have done....if anything, you should be happy about the npc missions because they give you something BH related to do that doesn't involve hunting players, perfect for situations like these, anyway speaking of hunting players...did your feelings get hurt by the hate tell? well, imagine how they felt, instead of dealing with a hate tell...for oh, 2.5 seconds untilyou typed /addignore, they had to regrind for hours...I'm not saying you deserve it, or they didn't deserve being hunted, but you should, if not expect it, be prepared for it. It comes with the job.
I didn't know about it till I got 35 offline missions, could you please explain to me 1000's of things I could have done ingame that I haven't already done in the 18 months I've played, I ended up playing a different game. Why should I be happy with a glorified treasure hunt. All NPC missions are the same and the only purpose of them is to get the BH xp required to master BH. I never took missions on -200k jedi before the revamp and its been a long time since i've recieved a hate tell or that i've taken xp off someone that didn't mind.
I believe Tanks singled your out, maybe...just maybe...because you started the thread. ya think?
Then why not bring it up in his first reply to me in this thread rather than the second. I'm being made a scapegoat for the 100's of people that got on Blix's back after he posted (again i've not said anything against blix in this thread)
this change does more for the BH profession in a few hours than any of the other top 5 could accomplish as far as making the game more enjoyable and fun for players of all types, if your intent was to find out about the issues, why the title?
It does nothing but add a few more days interest in NPC bh missions, when people find out there inventory is full of cdef pistols they'll soon get bored and go back camping POI's and Dark jedi spawn spots.
if you never played a smuggler, if you are a BH, and if everything else you said is true....again...why the title? doesn't seem like you had the purest of intentions, not saying that you didn't...just doesn't read that way. Smugglers need work, BH's need the offline Jedi to clear. Period. complaining about good things that benefit your profession and don't hurt anyone elses just doesn't make sense.
Because in the Star wars universe the most Iconic profession for me and many other paople is smuggler. If it wasn't for a smuggler there would have been no downfall of the empire. Out of all the professions in this game, smuggler is the most useless, they can't even smuggle, that is why I used them in the title.
EEMAN wrote:
Quiet420 wrote:
Why are we getting a mission revamp and the smugglers are getting squat?
because smugglers have last ditch and are unwilling to give it up.
the BH's are a little different, when the subject of the changes to the missions came up, several reasonable voices chimed in after recognizing the need for change....those that were countering the arguement, for the most part, ended up being proof that the system needed to change.
when smugglers are willing to give up 1hit incaps (which should be pretty soon) they'll get the code that is already in development
your rediculous statement in its entirety. Hard to be someone would be so biased they wouldnt see how rediculous a statement that essentially says 'for smugglers to get something that actually directly relates to their stated profession, you need to give up another useful thing you have that I consider imbalanced' is.
and I am saying thats as REDICULOUS as saying 'Jedi shouldnt get to use their lightsabers (something just as directly relating to THEIR profession) until they FIRST give up their second character slot (something also seen as imbalancing)'.
from the first post you immeidately started off trying to undermine any revamp of any profession whose skill subset MIGHT affect yours.
antares
Message Edited by antares_Kauri on 07-24-2005 12:37 AM