Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: macro help
Everything that happens in the game has the possibility of affecting everyone because the game is multiplayer. It's preposterous to think that one's actions, especially actions that may or may not have consequences with respect to an entire profession's reputation, do not affect other players. Falling back on that argument is rationalization at its worst.
None of this really matters. The people designing the game are probably getting a pretty clear picture on the damage AFKing is causing and are already taking the first steps to marginalizing it.
- J
I have a confession to make: I afk macro dance.
I usually do it where no one can see me, so I have been able to avoid the terrible consequences described in some of the previous posts.
Heh.
Can we say dead horse?
First off we all know which side of the line we stand on in regards to macrotainers.
Secondly, the developers know the situation as well as anyone else.
Thirdly, regardless of how you feel about people who post these boards. They're opinions do count.
Although i do not always agree with Sinda there is no reason to come in here and tell her to "Shut up"
Bottom line here is that ALL of us want a game play environment that is fun and entertaining. Think about that before you go any further with the flames here.
None of us want to ruin something for someone else. We never said that we wanted to. The biggest problem is delegating a compromise that creates a situation where its good for everyone.
My view points on this particular subject are well documented so i will not bore you with where i stand on the issue.
Lets try to stay civil at least. No need for name calling, nor personal attacks on ANYONE.
Ceta (master dancer)
Bloodfin
>Im sorry if they offend you, but afkers do not hurt you and your gameplay
I'm sorry if I offend you, but this horse has been beaten to an unrecognizable messalready. Please go out and get a clue. Please, I beg you.
If they don't hurt you, you're either not an entertainer, or AFK yourself. Or you have never experienced the time before AFKBots and don't know how much fun an entertainer can be besides seing the xp tick up. If people gaining xp for nothing, it won't hurt you when I write a macro that exploits my Bounty Hunter to master and kills all other bounties just because I can... will it ? Oh, how about I find an exploit for skillpoints to macro that up ? Like my MBH, MM, MD, ME Jedi ? *sigh*
To the Original Poster: We all have our issues. We might not have the time because of kids, work, family, friends or maybe just because someone writes a math test next week. That's life. I don't go and install a cheat for CS just because I didn't have the time to practice.
vanguardistaken wrote:
but at the same time i happen to play at an awkward time of day when there just arent that many people online and cant join some of the large entertainer groups that i see out there on the weekend, thus making my 'journey' into the dancing realm a little longer road than most people have to take.
I'm not sure how this justifies trying to automate a skill. European players don't play at regular hours, either - and neither does an Australian player in my PA. Yet somehow every one of these that I personally know has managed to gain their titles the honest way, by actually working for them.
What you're telling us is that you're too impatient to go through the normal process of working on a skill class and want a shortcut. I'm sorry, but I find that very hard to respect.
Sarita wrote:
Sinda....how bout you just shut up?
Oh, my, I've just been boggled by the sophistication of your argument. All bow down to Sarita!
you're posts are just annoying and you seem to have some greater than thou attitude....YOU are not the ONLY person who plays this game...mind your own business for a change.
No, I'm not the only one who plays this game (though that seems to be the handy retort-du-jour for people defending AFK bots) -but then neither are the AFK Zombie-bots. Of the two of us, it strikes me that they are the ones whose actions tend to do more harm to me than anything I've ever done to them. When players make comments to me in-game like "Oh, a Master Dancer, too bad you didn't work for your title like I did", it's very hard to not take it personally. The impact on my profession is obvious to all but those who simply choose not to see. I have to wonder whether that's selfishness, seeking to preserve their own convenience, or just plain old apathy.
If you find my posts annoying, the simple answer of course is to just not read them. I'd like that just fine -- for myself, I'm going to continue to express my opinion here as loudly and as often as I choose to do so, until SOE finally does something to clean up the Dancer profession and get rid of the poseurs who aren't even playing the game. Maybe someday Dancers will actually have a modicum of respect from the other classes, and if/when that happens it won't be because some of us "minded our own business". It will be because we spoke out about something we perceive as wrong and unfair.
vanguardistaken wrote:
i did all of this the hard way, no xploits, no other cra p,. just thought having a little bit of dancing skills would be fun, but after three days of hearing all you people moan,
Really, Van, it wouldn't have been that hard to first do a little search on this board on "AFK Macroing" (the advanced search options are pretty cool), and you could have found out before you ever posted what the general concensus of this board is regarding the topic. You act like it came as a big surprise to you -- and maybe it did, but instead of realizing that you are hearing the valid opinions of other people, you chose to get angry and call us names.
is it your mission in life to judge other people for how they play and why they play?
Is it your mission to make up words and stick them in other people's mouths? Or is it that you just don't like hearing how other people feel about something you want to do?
geez you have to be the most annoying poster i have ever seen.
I'm good at what I do, thank you.
Sinda must subscribe to the argument that "I CAN SHOUT LOUDER SO MUST BE RIGHT"
The concept that you seem to be missing is that, the people who are macroing afk are trying to live in harmony with you, while you in your fanatacism can not accept any other view other then your own. This is why the comment, You are not the only one who plays the game" is (although cliched to death) still accurate. If you can set aside your emotions for a sec, then you would realize that you are the one trying to enforce a specific playstyle on others, not vice versa. So continue you with your snide remarks. I didnt afk macro my master musician, master image 2/2/4/2 dance on Bloodfin or my Master Creature Handler on Radiant and as far as I know there is not a way to macro Image design or creature handling unattended, but that doesn't mean I have some sort of moral obligation to be snide, nasty and mean spirited to people who do macro afk.That type of person I have no respect for. I have no problem with people who are against afkers, but when you got to go out of your way to harass them or grief them , make snide comments and implications then yes, I find it extremely distasteful. When someone disagrees with you, you throw out accusations of cultural bias, then turn aaround and say Americans bastardized dancing giving it some sort of negative connotation.
If you want to be against it fine, that is perfectly acceptable. All I ask is you stop the harassing and giving people ideas on how to grief afkers.
vanguardistaken wrote:
i think its odd that sinda feels afk mining is ok but dancing isnt. hmm would you feel that way if you were a miner?
Please work on your reading comprehension, because your habit of putting words in my mouth is getting annoying. I mentioned how AFK mining worked in UOL (yes, I was a blacksmith/miner in UOL) and said I thought it was "less of an issue" than AFK dancing. ("less of an issue" != "is ok") I think it's less of an issue in SWG, as well, because surveyors/miners don't group. Their entire profession is pretty much solo - they don't have to group to effectively play their class. Do you think Entertainers fit that description as well? Have you forgotten what SOE did to nerf AFK sampling - orthat I notedOrigins doing the same thing to AFK mining in UOL? I'm sure if you think hard about that, you'll agree that both companies looked down on players automating their game, even when it didn't matter as much to other players. When it does matter, as in entertaining, why should we expect any less of a response from the Devs?
Answer: We don't have to expect less. They're working on ways to address it. The sooner, the better.