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Thread: macro help

picklesSW
Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:32 am
#40

My suggestion is to actually read this forum.

The argument over what you are talking about has been raging for months. Both sides have been clearly presented. If you truly want to know, the answer is only a few threads worth of reading away.

- J




vanguardistaken
Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:38 am
#41

i know you are only trying to help me and i thank you, but i have seen the nitpicking about this and other professions enough to know i dont want to read anymore. i mean good lord, its a flipping video game and some people just have nothing better to complain about. again its not a shot at you or anything i just dont want to read another 100 posts about someone whining about what someone else is doing. my only need for the macro is that i wanted to get some xp while i was away. i am a parent of two small children and work a ton of hours and this was just a way to maybe get a little boost. i dont have time to play 14 hours a day, while residing in mommys basement like some of the 'elite' gamers who often bash on those they know little about.



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picklesSW
Mon Oct 06, 2003 8:44 am
#42

Then I apologize, you are already apparently aware of the issue.

If you want to gain exp while away and don't want to aggravate other entertainers and risk your reputation, the best thing to do is to do it in your own house, or in a random building or something, just not in a cantina. That's just advice, you can feel free to disregard it.

In any event, my advice is still to ask a person in game. I'm certain someone will show you how. It would be very irresponsible of me to post it here, and quite honestly, I forget the exact command anyway.

- J




DenisaGalen
Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:31 am
#43

Pickles is right, I may bitch here about AFK people, I may not act nice to them ingame and kick them from my group but that doesn't mean I won't help someone setup a macro, just do it where I can't see it and where it doesn't affect my working environment, my fellow performers or my patrons.


And...I'd use an alias, no need for ui commands.




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vanguardistaken
Mon Oct 06, 2003 9:56 am
#44

i dont want to offend anyone but at the same time i dont have the time that others have to play, i just wish to gain some xp while i take care of other things in my life. i have been playing since day one (day two actually cause we all know how day one went) and i am still not a master of anything, not that thats a bad thing cause i am not bored of the game yet, i just want to aquire a skill that i can use to improve my character some, and doing it this way helps, if you feel the need to kick me from a group or do or say things to me thats fine, i understand your point, but i am just stating that not all afk people are doing it to take away from your acheivments, some of us may be doing it to be a little better in the limited time we have to play, i am sorry if it makes u unhappy and i apologise, but if you meet me in game i ask that you dont judge me on one action until you get to know me



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meeuki
Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:49 am
#45

nah,you want to use /ui action toolbarSlot.... repeating aliases won't work. you setup a macro that calls itself.


so


/startdance exotic2; /etc; /etc; /ui action toolbarSlot00 and put the macro button in the first toolbar slot. viola.






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Chessack
Mon Oct 06, 2003 10:55 am
#46

Repeating aliases DOES work, though I have never tried to do it for looping. One alias can call another. I use it all the time to mix mini-dances into one larger dance.

C



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meeuki
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:00 am
#47

recursive aliases, which is what you would need to loop the macro, would not work. sorry i wasn't more specific.





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Chessack
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:05 am
#48

Well, I know aliases can call each other. I have a long popular dance which uses 3 aliases: mypopd1, mypopd2, and mypopd3... I just type /mypopd1, and it calls mypopd2 at the end, which calls mypopd3. I stop it there... but wouldn't it work to just have mypopd3 call mypopd1 and start it over again? I've never tried that but I could experiment with it tonight and report the results.

I don't think the alias compiler (or whatever it is) tracks what calls what, so as long as you don't have the alias call itself I think it will work. I can't imagine mypopd3 would know that it was originally (way back) called by mypopd1 and refuse to re-call it.

C



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meeuki
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:18 am
#49

i guess you could give it a shot and see what it does. i'd like to know.



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AtheneNoctua
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:34 am
#50


Chessack wrote:
Well, I know aliases can call each other. I have a long popular dance which uses 3 aliases: mypopd1, mypopd2, and mypopd3... I just type /mypopd1, and it calls mypopd2 at the end, which calls mypopd3. I stop it there... but wouldn't it work to just have mypopd3 call mypopd1 and start it over again? I've never tried that but I could experiment with it tonight and report the results.

I don't think the alias compiler (or whatever it is) tracks what calls what, so as long as you don't have the alias call itself I think it will work. I can't imagine mypopd3 would know that it was originally (way back) called by mypopd1 and refuse to re-call it.

C



As far as I know, the macro/alias processor will detect if an alias calls itself (even indirect). I haven't tried it but remember it being discussed a while ago - people then found out that the ui command doesn't have this safeguard (at least that's how I remember it).




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Sinda
Mon Oct 06, 2003 11:57 am
#51


vanguardistaken wrote:
i dont want to offend anyone but at the same time i dont have the time that others have to play


You don't want to offend anyone, yet you just said you don't care what others think about AFKing - is that correct?


i just wish to gain some xp while i take care of other things in my life. i have been playing since day one (day two actually cause we all know how day one went) and i am still not a master of anything,


And once you get to master, what then?Do you think this game is all about goals rather than the journey? The beautiful part about SWG is that it doesn't really matter how much you play. Newbies can group with Masters. The game is designed to favor the casual gamer, and yet we still have the powergamers (and the wannabees) who think the only way they can play is if they macro themselves up to Master. The sad part is that if that's how they get there, they're going to end up with a worthless Master who doesn't have a clue how to combine flourishes, time their effects or what dances go with which songs. They'll just be a newbie novice with a Master title.


Maybe it sends a message when we see that most of the Macro'd Master Dancers disappear from the game after reaching their goal. What is easily gained is never valued as much as that which we work for.


but i am just stating that not all afk people are doing it to take away from your acheivments, some of us may be doing it to be a little better in the limited time we have to play,


If you are gaining skills without playing the game, you are cheapening the experience for everyone. Whether you choose to accept this fact or not, this is amultiplayer game, meaning there are thousands of other people who are playing too, all of our actions affect others, and all of them want to gain skill. What does it do to the other dancers if people see you (and people like you) gaining skills while you're asleep or taking your kids to school functions? If you can gain skill without actually playing the game, why can't they? Do you see where that line of reasoning takes you? Can you understand the resentment it creates among non-entertainers?


i am sorry if it makes u unhappy and i apologise, but if you meet me in game i ask that you dont judge me on one action until you get to know me


I'm not judging you at all. I just hearyou say thatyou don't care what anyone thinks andeven though you know AFK macroing makes people mad you're still going to do it. That doesn't convince me that you understand the concept of 'multiplayer'.


If you want to macro in your home or your PA hall, nobody can stop you. But the day you macro in front of the entrance in a public cantina, you can expect to have a large pet parked on top of you, be booted from groups and/dueledand ridiculed while you are away from your keyboard. If none of that bothers you, I have to ask why you're not playing a singleplayer game instead of Massive Multiplayer.


I could send you some really nifty Word macros you could run that would do the same thing, but it wouldn't teach you how to use Word.




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meeuki
Mon Oct 06, 2003 1:18 pm
#52

lol /release



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