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Thread: CL 10 : BE Pet vs Combat Droid

WI_WereBear
Mon Mar 15, 2004 11:06 pm
#27






Arnwald wrote:






I'm not a BE and would welcome anyone topost some data on CL 10


So I asked the first BE I found


Cl 10 Bantha



  • 4232 Health

  • 3316 Action

  • 1916 Mind

  • Kin14%

  • Blast14%

  • Vuln to rest

  • 55-65 damage

  • Speed 1.98

  • Special 1-Dizzy

He told me lowering the vunerabiliy would get more HAM (logic)


The damage on this PETwas medium-low you can get 90 damage on thoses mobs with CL10





This pet will supposedly be illegal in the next patch. I am a Master BE and while I feel your pain about your profession, fealt the need to point this out. Supposedly in this new patch, there will be a stat check with each item being pulled out to see if it conforms to the new rules. If a player has a pet with the stats listed above the creature will not be able to be called.
KruppeRift
Tue Mar 16, 2004 2:11 am
#28

Guys...

There's one FUNDAMENTAL point everyone seems to forget...

THERE IS NO COMPETITION BETWEEN BE PETS AND DROIDS...

Why?

BECAUSE YOU CAN USE ONE OF EACH SIMULTANEOUSLY......

So there is no need why they have to be identical in stats..........



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Sodan-droiddreamer
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:16 am
#29

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Shian_Tavkin
Tue Mar 16, 2004 3:38 am
#30






Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
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Say no more lol



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Smit80
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:15 am
#31






Shian_Tavkin wrote:





Sodan-droiddreamer wrote:
http://www.neo-imperia.com/gurrcat.gif






Say no more lol




I was just going to post the link to theauction for that pet :


http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=intrepid_trade&message.id=33488


This is apparently useably by anyone..


There is the pure reality, that there is no competition between any Droid anda Creature Pet such as that.





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Leadhead101
Tue Mar 16, 2004 4:55 am
#32

I guess that is a good point that you can have both. If sombody had one of each, then it should give them a pretty nice little boost. However it does kinda suck that the bio pets get disgustingly better ham with only a small disadvantage in resists. They also get a nice variety of secondary attacks also. It must be nice to have a cl10 pet that can do poison, or disease and whatnot. I guess I would be happy with the comparison if droids got some secondaries like bleed or area dizzy or something.



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Morgania
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:13 am
#33

What worries me is that we will become BE's. Especialy with the gevs seeming to copy everythign they have and stick droid in it somewhere and claim its a new featue
R0ZM4N
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:23 am
#34


I am utterly shocked!


Thnx Arnwald honey for a truly eye opening post, I had absolutely no idea that these new combat droids would be so utterly useless!


I ... I .. I just can not believe it!!!! What a total waste of a publish, of months of work, of thousands of posts detailing what we'd like and what we'd prefer and what we need and WHAT THE HELL WAS ALL THAT BALANCE CR*P FROM THE DEVS!!!!!!!! Foul language is going to be more effective in battle than these wastes of space!


Argh!!!!! /emote Cass stamps her foot very, very hard and goes into a huff so powerful as to spontaneously spawn a singularity and consume her very being.


*puff*





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Cliffy
Tue Mar 16, 2004 6:51 am
#35

Keep in mind I'm pretty new to DE so probably am repeating so bear with me but my thoughts from the perspective of being a master BE & DE on the comparison is more along the common sense area which is that if they want to keep the HAM done on combat droids that is fine but I would think they should have medium armor or high resists...heres a follow up on specific stats on a pet I made for a friend but will probably get nerfed so thats why not selling to general population

C10 Gurreck
6800/4000/2000 approx
14% kinetic & energy
vuln to rest
damage 30-35
one special dizzy attack

I have np with a probot having a lower HAM at say 2k but would think they should at least have light armor if not medium armor for adv ones with resists in the 30-40% range...just makes sense to me

I think the devs reasoning is to force groups but have to realize that a lot of us who have been around since launch have lost a lot of our original friends to other games or boredom & I personally cant stand grouping with anyone I dont know most of the time...It can be very frustrating

just my 2 cents



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Arnwald
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:13 am
#36






Cliffy wrote:
Keep in mind I'm pretty new to DE so probably am repeating so bear with me but my thoughts from the perspective of being a master BE & DE on the comparison is more along the common sense area which is that if they want to keep the HAM done on combat droids that is fine but I would think they should have medium armor or high resists...heres a follow up on specific stats on a pet I made for a friend but will probably get nerfed so thats why not selling to general population

C10 Gurreck
6800/4000/2000 approx
14% kinetic & energy
vuln to rest
damage 30-35
one special dizzy attack

I have np with a probot having a lower HAM at say 2k but would think they should at least have light armor if not medium armor for adv ones with resists in the 30-40% range...just makes sense to me

I think the devs reasoning is to force groups but have to realize that a lot of us who have been around since launch have lost a lot of our original friends to other games or boredom & I personally cant stand grouping with anyone I dont know most of the time...It can be very frustrating

just my 2 cents




Hello,


ty for your update.


AsI writed I won't take your Uber pet for comparison as it is too high regarding CL 10 level. we all know they would be "nerfed" soon or later...


I do agree the Devs are trying to force us to group :



  1. Lowering player damage output

  2. Buffering mobs HAM and Resists

  3. Removing high end docs buffs

  4. Revamping the combat system

and I agree I lost a lot of friends since the launch cause of :



  • Constant "Nerfing"

  • New bugged content added

  • Major issues not solved

  • Changes pushed live against player bases wishes

  • Lack of SW feeling

  • Cave hunting with axes and bone armors

  • Pokemon wars

  • Loss ofplayer structures and wealth cause of decay

  • Lack of loot and mobs farming (ninja looting)

  • TEF abuse

  • etc, etc...


Now as I posted on another topic :


regarding the changes on droids it seems players have 2 choices for CL 10 "pets"



  1. BE tanking pet :high HAM, low damage
  2. DE ranged support droid :lowHAM, high damage

I agree we would need to get back the 40% AR2 armor.


But maybe SOE designers see the CL 10 droids as fragil damage dealers and BE pets as tanking compagnons.


In wich case they are complementary...


What do you think?



==> Please ignore the +4k Ham pets they aren't a good comparison model <==

Kilarny
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:15 am
#37






R0ZM4N wrote:


I am utterly shocked!


Thnx Arnwald honey for a truly eye opening post, I had absolutely no idea that these new combat droids would be so utterly useless!


I ... I .. I just can not believe it!!!! What a total waste of a publish, of months of work, of thousands of posts detailing what we'd like and what we'd prefer and what we need and WHAT THE HELL WAS ALL THAT BALANCE CR*P FROM THE DEVS!!!!!!!! Foul language is going to be more effective in battle than these wastes of space!


Argh!!!!! /emote Cass stamps her foot very, very hard and goes into a huff so powerful as to spontaneously spawn a singularity and consume her very being.


*puff*







/examine singularity


Wow. That's a huff, all right.


I guess we'll just have to see how this all works out.


Javac
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:26 am
#38

1. BE tanking pet : high HAM, low damage
2. DE ranged support droid : low HAM, high damage


A good BE can make a CL10 pet with droid-like stats if they wanted by upping the damage and sacrificing HAM. Most people want tanking ability though, not damage so that's why you only see 'tanks'.



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Arnwald
Tue Mar 16, 2004 7:30 am
#39






Javac wrote:

1. BE tanking pet : high HAM, low damage
2. DE ranged support droid : low HAM, high damage


A good BE can make a CL10 pet with droid-like stats if they wanted by upping the damage and sacrificing HAM. Most people want tanking ability though, not damage so that's why you only see 'tanks'.




I agree damage dealers pets eats players XP.


Players wants damage dealers pets only if they are caped on combat XP in wich case a CL10 pet is pretty much useless for them

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