Bio Engineer Archive

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droid327 wrote:

arent they AR2? or did they nerf that?

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Nooooo no armor on the combat droids. I think the original 'pre-nerf' Probots had medium armor.

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Dalmartynn wrote:

Honestly, I do not really think that some of these "uber" non-ch are much of a problem. Yes they could be turned down a bit, but the most powerful ones I have managed to create is 10k,4k,3k there abouts with close to 100 dmg, no armor, and decent resistances. Alot of work has to go into those, and one slip and you bump the cl up several levels. It is probably one of the more challenging aspects of our porfession to create a good pet like this. Regular non-ch pets are worthless and do not sell, or if they do, they are merely decoration for buildings or roleplayers. The run of the mill "legal" cl 10 clones can take about minimal damage before they incap and start losing vitality, therefore, why would anyone want to waste there time with them. Non-chmounts are pretty much obsolete with the vehicles in circulation ( who wants to plod along on a bantha while there team is racing ahead on a swoop). I do not sell any of these "uber" pets, mainly for the fact that they do seem destined for extinction, but I would like to see these guys remain close to an 8k HAM range post-nerf, with cl increases for resistances rising above (hmm) say 30%. Does that seem to excessive?

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That's the point no one is to be wasting time on them other than for a ride, the point is that to have a good pet they have to waste time on leveling CH to get that good tank pet.

Ok I have read all the replies in this thread, now here is my 2cr.
/rant on

Fix the game and not the player. If these pets are not intended to be created, then the Dev Team needs to get their heads out of their.. "Jedi's" and fix it. Plain and simple. Until then, I am going to make them like they are going out of style.

Why?

Either way, I win. WE WIN.

If they dont fix it, we become really wealthy.
If they do fix it, we have an issue addressed in a formal way.

I have had it with being treated like a sub-par crafter. No tapes, aprons, crafting quests, or even content! A short list of creatures to sample from for level 65+ pets. Way to high of a failure rate on sampling at Master.
I have had it with spending a full 3 hours of my play time to get enough DNA to make 2 pets over level 65, then having them crit fail on assembly or even better come out at level 71! Which then disappear when you try to clone off them because the fail rate is ungodly high for a master.

The new agro code that causes us to automatically fire at a creature that decides to attack. The list goes on and on.

Things are broken that have been broken since Beta 2! ( Like the pet auto storing. Well, it dosent store actually, it goes invisible and limp. Thats why you have to store it from the pad and call it again. C'mon, for heavens sake how long is long enough? If folks lightsabres were autostoring for no good reason it would be fixed toot sweet.)

I have a level 82 Kimogila. It was an "Amazing" on a final assembly. So if anyone has a really big desk, I have a paperweight for it. That is simply silly. We deserve some kind of gauge during experimentation or an optional checkbox to adjust the final combine to level 70 if it is over.

Heck, they even insist on keeping the pet check in even though it dosen't work! (Obiviously) They cant be bothered, so why should we? Last time I checked, WE were the CUSTOMERS in this senario. Yet, we are treated like mushrooms. ( Kept in the dark and fed lots of sh*t)

So, I say we make it a priority. Flood every server with the most uber pets we can create. If it was not intended to be, then it should be addressed and corrected. Since this has been allowed to happen and flourish for well over 6 months now, I cannot see any reason not to believe that it is working as intended. I am done trying to theorize the devs intent, I will instead judge by their actions. And so far, it appears to me, that everything is working as intended.

/rant off

Thank you for all your time and attention,

-TK-SixNine (Farstar)
Bio Buddies Pet Emporium, Fort Refuge, Lok. "Where friends are truely MADE."

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TK-SixNine wrote:

If they dont fix it, we become really wealthy.

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Kevm wrote:

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TK-SixNine wrote:

If they dont fix it, we become really wealthy.

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Sorry. Greed of real, or imaginary, money does not control my sense of personal morals. I will not create these creatures that I know are completely wrong and unbalanced.

No amount of money will change that.

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And that is your choice. Nobody disputes that.

But I remind you that it is that very mentality that has caused this to prevail and flourish for all these months. I have chose that in the past as well, but look where it got us.



Cheers!

-TK-SixNine

Gotta agree with TK. I'm not overly concerned about what the devs wanted to do. I'm interested in what they did. The rules of the system they created may not be what was intended but they are what we have and I have more fun playing within the parameters of the system than agonising over whether I should. People ask me for these animals so I make them.

Do these animals devalue the creature handler profession? Well I suppose they would if bio-engineers refused to sell higher level pets. Last I looked that wasn't happening.

Two pets I made:

Level 10
9150/2688/2186
56% kinetic
270 damage at 1.99 and 0.23 to hit

Level 15
9814/6565/7158
310 damage at 1.98 and 0.29 to hit
50% kinetic, 47% blast

Is the level 10 overpowered compared to wild level 10s? Yes.
Is the level 15 a better animal? Yes.
Is the level 15 available to non-CH? No.

Creature handlers can have better animals. They are not devalued just because the baseline is higher.

Dalmar I would I agree if they had never commented, but they did. And we no better.

This would be the same as a Smuggler being able to slice a T21 so that anyone could use it. What I was saying is pets aren't for everybody, if you want a pet be a CH. If you don't, you get a sorry 1k HAM "PET", Would take a cocker spaniel out to hunt lions? no. If you wanted an animal to go with you that would be worthy of such a thing, you have to invest time and money to get training and have the animal trained to be up for that.

I only disagree because we know better. I know a lot of this is all based on moral decisions and beliefs, etc. But just because you don't believe in trains, doesn't mean it won't kill you when hits you. People can sit in the dark and believe their is no light, but there is a switch, try it.

I also agree that the 10-15 range is very bugged and if we make a legit CL10 it will be adjusted to an 11 or worse, that is what needs to be fixed.

I do think that a CL10 should match it's droid counter part, but with that CH should be bumped up to CL100 with 75-80 or 100 as max pet. (this would make our job so much more fun)

Also there are consequnces to these pets, the CH's are crying nerf on us, you can check the forum yourselves, if they succeed making pets will have no value whatsoever. It would all be custom oreders with I really want a GSP in a Gurek skin type stuff nothing more.

Being that we only one notch above novice entertainers (no wait they have quests don't they) they could very well get their wish, especially since they what are pets are for, so if are consumer market pushes we will loose.

Lol nice closing.

I wasn't really trying to argue with you, i just don't want to contribute to a another dilema. Part of my tinking comes from these quick fixes that cause more problems then they fix. I am concerned that if too much attention is given to this in a negative way then the DEVs may "fix" it.

Where as if no one makes them then NancyJ can get them to fix it quitely and patiently figuring out the reprocussions of actions and make things better instead of a rash BE slashing.

By the way I was thinking more like a Tiger or another lion to take on the lion hunt, not any dog as they would be mauled horribly. (unless of course we made it, in wich case it would look like a resident evil dog.)