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You don't need to be a master to be a master dancer...

Please consider surrendering just some skills at a time as you need them and maybe you'll want to get back up there. I'm not a master dancer despite dancing since July because being a cantina manager and roleplaying have pretty much stopped my dancing career. I've gotten 2 boxes in over a month that the cantina's been open.

I still put on shows with the staff, and occasionally dance for a patron. I can do lyric, I have no techniques, my healing is at wound and fatigue 2. Every person I know that I danced with in the first month made it to Master and many of them have moved on to other professions. I'm now watching the people I met in my second month getting Master or mastery soon.

What do I tell people? That I'm a retired professional dancer a bit rusty now and feeling my age (30 something Twi). When I fall I roleplay it in a bigger way and limp a bit or rub my ankles and scrutinize the floor. I ask doctors for linaments and structure bandages and emote with my bruises occasionally. I grimace a bit and mumble in the public cantinas about people tracking in mud or water, or animal droppings or fur, or droid oil andkeep the complaint in character. If I don't get master in a few months I might start complaining about arthritis, who knows. Playing a has been "someone who was a master" would be even better, right now I play a "never-made-it-could-have-been" and its pretty good too.

I still teach other dancers, I still interview and hire those young dancers on their way up to Master. I talk about the steps and shows from my old days in Coronet, and say "of course that's not the popular thing in Naboo now..."

And someday in the months ahead maybe I'll make master. I'd like to get the techniques, not for the mind buff but for the choreography so I can contribute to the shows. Then I'll alter the patter a bit.

Keep coming to the forums your opinion as a master dancer and supporter of the community is just as important to us. You don't leave the fold unless you want to. And definitely have some fun with what you're doing.

I struggled with the decision for days while staring at the 2/250 at the bottom of my skill sheet. I love Teras Kasi as much as I love dancing. One would not outweigh the other in my mind.

Being an avid gamer, my biggest challenge in games is the same as in real life. I have permanent damage to my visual field from a, now dormant, eye disease.I play hard andI can reach as high a combat level as anyone else, but I am not comfortable with knowing my friends might depend on me in battle. I can run with the big dogs..but I'll never be able to make an equal contribution to the fight.

Credits are not a problem for me. Not only have I "done well" as an entertainer but I'vebought most everything I could want andhave a few credits stashed away from running missions on Dath and Lok.I'm fortunate to have a partner who has found a very profitable niche with his master BE and CH skills. The members of the PA we have joined are very appreciative of my quick healing abilities and mind enhancement and I enjoy the social interaction with that great bunch of folks.

As entertainers, we have the "mixed blessing" of being almost completely ignored by the other professions. I can dance in a cantina all day long and not say a word to others. I can listen to their conversations and learn who is doing what and when. Or I can chat it up with those who trust me and get all their latest gossip. I can stand amongst a group preparing for battle, listen to theirstrategiesand not even be noticed.

Yesterday, as our PA was preparing to raid an opposing faction PA's outpost, I found my place in the GCW. I have given up Teras Kasi.

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LoraJ wrote:

Chessack (sp) is right. I spent over a month just dancing about 95% of the time. I probably am burnt out. Although, I would probably dance more if some of my old dance pals were still dancing too.

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You spelled it right. *wink*

This is a common pattern. It happens a lot. It is easy to fall into the trap. You start working some skills (whatever they be, not just dancing). Well, let's face it, this is one cool game. MOST of the skills are neat and fun to play around with. You fall in love with doing those things. You do them a lot. It is fun to do. You progress fairly quickly. Uh oh! Now you are hooked.

Before you know it you have 10 out of 16 boxes in whatever the profession is filled out. The rest of those boxes call out to you like a siren song. You want to fill them out! So you keep going, but now it takes longer and longer to get those yellow bars to move on that box.

Now you have a choice: grind, or take breaks and do something else. If you choose grind, and you do the skill over and over again for a long, long time, it is very easy to get bored and burnt out. I have not had this happen but I have teetered. When I decided to go with Marksman (for roleplay reasons -- Dejah went out surveying with her friend Jaylin, who was well up into the pistol section of Marksman, and when they were attacked Jaylin kicked butt and Dejah was helpless, so she decided she wanted to learn to defend herself too, plus she looked up to Jaylin and wanted to be like her), I got the first couple of rifle boxes really fast, and just kept going.. Decided to master marksman rather than stick with one weapon, and started fooling with pistol, carbine... Before I knew it I had 3 rifle and 2 of the other weapon boxes filled in. And I realized something: I had not been back to the cantina for several days. Then I had to make the decision -- grind marksman for a week or two to "finish" it, or go back to the cantina.

I chose to go back. I am still working marksman, but slowly. Once or twice a week I do some destroy missions. (The fact that my sound card driver seems to cause occasional crashes in combat, which forces me to turn sound off when in battle, is not helping me want to spend too much time on marksman either, at the moment, to be fair.) And you know what? Those destroy missions, which had been getting old after a few days of Marksman grinidng, are fun again just like when they were new, because I only do them for a little bit, to get the agression out -- then I go to the cantina and dance.

The same is true of dancing. I admit I was taking forever to get a new dance. It was slow. It started to feel "grindy". That's another reason I started crafting and shooting things. By mixing it up, I have avoided getting tired of anything, and still have fun with everything. And it also has taken a long time to get new skills (I get maybe one box a week) because switching what you do every night is very inefficient from the powerlevelling perspective. But that's OK... I am not in it to powerlevel. I am in it to have fun.

In the end, I think variety is what makes the game fun. It's great that you can have expertise in several professions. But you have to be careful. If you do all of one first, then all of another, you run the risk of getting bored with both.

C

Um I'm wrestling with this too... I worked my tush off to get Master Dancer, now I have it I feel it's a dead end. I'm seriously thinking of surrendering and going combat too. I think the Dancer idea was a great one, and I loved it so much, pity it got no love from anyone other than those of us who took it up.

When will the shutters go up on the Cantinas? Last one out turn off the lights.

The shutters will not go up on the Keren Cantina on Naritus while I am around. My character's nowhere near Master Dancer yet -- mostly because she has 2 other trades (artisan, marksman) and I swap out which one I work on from day to day. Much of this depends on how active the Keren cantina is, and whether my entertainer-friends are around and so forth. I will not sit around an empty cantina for very long. I only get a few hours online a day (max) and I'm not gonna spend it staring at the wall. I'm also not gonna spend it healing up a bunch of non-RPing combat-wombat types. Let 'em get mad if they want, let 'em call me a roleplay nazi (others have); I am in this game for the roleplay and if I'm not getting it in the cantina I move on.

However, I do get it in the Keren cantina more often than not, and as long as that keeps happening I'm not going anywhere.

I think one problem that many of my friends on the Naritus server, who are also Master Dancers and Musicians, is that they ground too hard, they levelled too fast, the worked just on entertainment for weeks, and now they aren't just upset at LAMErs or lack of respect. They're burned out. I on the other hand haven't burned out because I bop around between crafting, dancing, and killing stuff, and this keeps things interesting.

Yes, it's inefficient. It's not much good in terms of grinding, but I don't care. I love my dancer character. I intend to play her for many months to come.

So you can turn the lights out everywhere else, but no matter what there will always be one dedicated entertainer attached to the Keren cantina on Naritus. :-)

C

There are no classes in this game, just predefined templates. Who cares about master, boo-freekin-hoo. Keep whatever weapons skills you want, spend teh rest of your skill points wisely.

THIS IS NOTA CLASS BASED GAME.

You people need to quit treating it like it is, that's where most of your sorrow is coming from.

What is this game then Lorrman?

From my understand it is a player driven profession based game...Was I mistaken ?

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Scuzel wrote:

What is this game then Lorrman?

From my understand it is a player driven profession based game...Was I mistaken ?

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Well it certaintly isn;t star wars...

"Well it certaintly isn;t star wars... "

Sorry, I was under the impression it was an Multiplayer Online Game that was supposed to resemble something close to a player driven economy and enviroment with a slight touch of balancing. I didn't realize it was just "Star Wars" otherwise I'd have created a Jedi.

This is why I am doing tailor very slowly. I am now balancing everything out. I sign on, make a record of everything I sold whyle offline. Make more items, stock vendor, grind some, fill pack with goodies, put stuff on bazaar, go in Cantina, dance, go out and do missions.

I am having so much more fun this way.

But every day I am noticing less and less performers in the Cantina in my town. My town is the most populated on the planet. And last night there was one performer, and they were AFK. Our town got raided, which I participated in and got myself quickly killed. The cantina was full of people needing healing. I started dancing (the robot, which I do when I am dressed to fight) and dedicated it to the honor of my dearly departed storm trooper who had just bit the dust. I actually like dancing when there aren't too many other entertainers because I feel more appreciated.

When I do surrender, I will probably go down to novice and keep that. I still want to dance, I just won't have my super fast healing abilities anymore. Which I will miss dearly, but...
I need some more power.

well I am joining the crew of people droping most of the BH class, the weapon skill are fine never was the isue at all, it is this invesigation grabage ihave never been so frustrated with it is not fun...lol if it is not the mulitpule missions to endor aka death worlds i call it then it is now 2 missions in a row where it is falied for some dumb reason, why i have not clue i went as fast my legs and schuttle would let me..

So i inclose with this statement, yes i am whinning i wanted to be a master bh but asfrom what i hear and been through it is not worth untill invegation gets fixed. MAybe when the speeders come out it will not be as bad as it is right now, but for all your bh's with dreams of being a master you better have patient and go through investigation helll cuz from the 3 missions a hr you are geting now once you lvl up it is like 1 mission a hours somtimes even longer.....

here is another big difference in some of the classes, we have the hard entry to this and the total hardest to hit the master, by far compaird to any elite profession i hope SWG aka devs look at all our rants and do somthing about teh bh classes cuz it is very broken in ways ...

...well i get some more skill points now...lol

Well, now that the lazy days of summer are over and I'm getting more work in real life I have decided I need to quit merchant.

Why?

Because I no longer have the hour and a half every morning it takes to RE register my vendors, RE enable ad barking and RE post all the hundreds of items that have expired while I slept. I really don't know how you are supposed to be a sucessufl merchant unless you treat it like a real life 9-5 job and give it just about as much time per day.

When the Dev's don't even bother to fix things that probably involve all of 10 lines of code, I get really concerned that some of the larger issues will never get looked at. Honestly I'm tired of wasting my time waiting around for fixes that may never come.

Anyways, for those of you sticking with it, I am liquidating my inventory at a 10% discount. My Shop is The Tribe General Store on Corellia SW of Doarba Gurfel waypoint 2324, 3339

Birks

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