Bio Engineer Archive
Thread: Attention Devs
What you seem to neglect to mention is the Fact that CH actually spend skill points for their Tanks.
ABE uber lvl 10 pet, costs you nothing skill wise but what you pay for it in creds.
And if you would bother to find out about the Dec patch, part ofit was implemented to stop so many Non CH from having very powerfull tanks.
Your argument also about 3 pets being better than 1 doesnt allways work out, as mobs and npc now have a lot higher chance of agroing the person with the pets, and they dont allways save your but before you get Death Blowd or incapd.
In short were seeing a lot of whining from BE who are anoyd because they no longer have a insanly over powerd non CH pets to sell for upwards of 60 - 100 k
Yes standard lvl 10 wild pets suck.
If you dont like it then become a CH and get somthing a bit better.
I dont want to see BE cripled to be certain, but please stop deluding yourselfs about lvl 10 pets.
BTW - Nice of some of you to suggest that any opinion other than your own is incorrect and shouldnt apear here 
The day a BEmake a MutantRancor out of Rancor DNA is the day I buy the "We make better than wild pets" argument...heck, even just a plain Rancor from Rancor DNA would be nice :-/
DaBlingBling, perhaps you should now learn how to make a decent CL 35 pet or a decent CL 70 pet. Or perhaps it really would be best for you to leave BE. You are calling players "dumb" who both before and after the hotfix are selling pets for 60k-200k each. I and others are not nearly as affected by this hotfix as you. My CL 35ish pets and CL 70ish pets are still valid, they have the same stats, and they have the same CL.
You say: "Then you can make a creature that is average resists (and that drops it down) then makes a creature that is no REAL difference other then a water down version of that creature in a new body."
You say: "Back to BEing.. You nerfed it again.. It is now useless.. I want to see someone make a good pet now.. Something that is better then the wild version.. YOU CANT!"
No, DaBlingBling, YOU CAN'T. Some of us can and are having funand making lots of moneydoing so. If you can't make a pet significantly better than wild ones, then please leave the BE profession and stay off this forum.Our profession doesn't need BEs who can't make a decent pet.
Finally, you say: "I have wasted almost a year of my life in BE now for nothing." It amazes me that people are admitting that they have been a BE for a long time and still can't make a pet significantly better than wild ones. Don't you realize that this makes you look likethe "dumb" one?
Myself and the other two leaders of my guild had a blast tonight running around Dantooine, sampling various creatures (while us Swordsman protected the BE) and seeing what the newly finished Master Bio Engineer could make out of them.
She's made everything from creatures with good HAM and strong disease to ones with dizzy, posture changes, stun, the works.
And now that she's getting the hang of the system, she's turning out creatures that I want. Badly.
As usual, another change made to the game is seen as a "nerf" by all the wannabe uber-babies who can't handle not having a one hit kill button.
The new system makes Bio Engineering interesting and lets them produce pets worth buying. Noone should be seeing that as a *bad* thing.
"Master CH with 3 pets doing 500 damage = 1500"
From my experiance your off on these numbers by alot. Typical pets I have created in the lvl 23 range and wild ones average between 200-280 max damage.
Anarrion wrote:
If you can't make a pet significantly better than wild ones, then please leave the BE profession and stay off this forum.Our profession doesn't need BEs who can't make a decent pet.
meroc wrote:
Cool, can you make me a Bull Rancor with the Kin/Stun raised a bit (say 45-50ish)?
Anarrion wrote:
If you can't make a pet significantly better than wild ones, then please leave the BE profession and stay off this forum.Our profession doesn't need BEs who can't make a decent pet.
This is from Mutant Rancor in slots 1,3,5 and BMBQ in slots 2,4.
CL 70 Gurreck
12794 Health
11807 Action
13189 Mind
Light Armor
49 Kinetic
57 Energy
V Blast
94 Heat
41 Cold
94 Electricity
23 Acid
20Stun
1.99Attack Speed
0.62 To Hit
580-590 Damage
Stun, Dizzy, Ranged
Bull Rancor has 15% Stun, so this one is just 5% higher. Kinetic on Bull Rancor is only 35%, so this one is 14% higher there. Energy is 3% lower, but still 57%. Electricity at 94% is nice, too (Bull is 80%). And this one has Ranged which the Bull Rancor doesn't.It alsohas higher averageDamage than Bull Rancor and slightlybetter To Hit and Attack Speed. It was also a lot of fun to make.
That fits the bill nicely, thanks for the recipe
I've yet to run into a BMBQ, but I can probably substitue that for reclusive cavern spider queen (if I can get down there to sample her).
My babies, supposedly inferior to pre-Dec patch pets...
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=28079
http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=28080
I sincerely hope DaBlingBling will be leave this profession he hates so much now, and be a scourge on some other boards.
We make great stuff still without abusing a bug. If you don't like it, theres lots of other things you can do. The devs were going to do this no matter what we said, the fact they did it badly should come as no surprise. You got to take advantage of a broken system for several weeks, now they took part of it away with a broken fix.
You were told shown over and over again that the devs didn't want the non-ch's having massive tanking abilities. You chose to attack us for pointing out the obvious - if the combat in the game becomes trivial to every player because of these pets, it ruins the game for everyone except the kiddies who play games in God mode.
Your stupid excuse for pets being used for damage dealing truly shows your ignorance. Sure, you can use your pets to deal that kind of damage... to level 10 newb creatures. But anything with armor drops that damage output to 60%. Anything with armor and kinetic 30 drops that output to 40%. But the weapon classes don't worry, because their guns pierce armor, and they can chose damage types that get around resists. Every CH knows that if they send their pet in against anything with a CL of 40+, which is where most of what passes for interesting content is, they will be waiting a long, long time for whatever it is to drop, and if they have a level 4 novice marksmen skill, they will be outdamaging their 3 pets.
Yeah, it is stupid that pets are used as tanks in this game. But this recent cycle of fix nerf fix nerf was never meant to address that at all.
Mattakar wrote:
I sincerely hope DaBlingBling will be leave this profession he hates so much now, and be a scourge on some other boards.
We make great stuff still without abusing a bug. If you don't like it, theres lots of other things you can do. The devs were going to do this no matter what we said, the fact they did it badly should come as no surprise. You got to take advantage of a broken system for several weeks, now they took part of it away with a broken fix.
You were told shown over and over again that the devs didn't want the non-ch's having massive tanking abilities. You chose to attack us for pointing out the obvious - if the combat in the game becomes trivial to every player because of these pets, it ruins the game for everyone except the kiddies who play games in God mode.
Your stupid excuse for pets being used for damage dealing truly shows your ignorance. Sure, you can use your pets to deal that kind of damage... to level 10 newb creatures. But anything with armor drops that damage output to 60%. Anything with armor and kinetic 30 drops that output to 40%. But the weapon classes don't worry, because their guns pierce armor, and they can chose damage types that get around resists. Every CH knows that if they send their pet in against anything with a CL of 40+, which is where most of what passes for interesting content is, they will be waiting a long, long time for whatever it is to drop, and if they have a level 4 novice marksmen skill, they will be outdamaging their 3 pets.
Yeah, it is stupid that pets are used as tanks in this game. But this recent cycle of fix nerf fix nerf was never meant to address that at all.
You are completly retarded. You are just another sheep in this game. Roll over and let the devs tell you what you should like.. Eat the garbage that they feed you.. And enjoy.. I dont care what you think. I hope that you are happy with this crap.. And I hope that you never change.. Keep your trash.. You speak pure crap and useless information. And this truely shows that you dont know the changes nor do you know what you are missing. This has nothing to do with the NON-CH this has to do with the fact that we are now HARD-SET again.. Like before.. Now with more changes to make the HARD-SET harder.. WOW GREAT! Just go away and be happy.. This message is not for you but the devs to show them that yet once agian they dont think.. So BE HAPPY And dont post divel..
DUDE!! LEARNA TO SPEAKA DA ENGRISH BEFORE YOU TYPE!!!!
BUT is NEVER followed by a period... NEVER!!!
As far as your other banter about BE's being fixed, nerfed, fixed, nerfed.. **edit** are you talking about? They were NEVER fixed. There was a very brief moment where they "worked" somewhat, but that moment has passed. (NOTICE there was NO period after the "but")
The very fact that you're content to playa clas in a game where the BE's are as powerful as the post-nerf DE's is amusing to me. I'm sure several of the DEV's are laughing at you right now as well.
I CALL FOR ALL BE's TO DROP THEIR TREE'S RIGHT NOW!! YOUR CLASS IS USELESS AND WE DON'T NEED **edit**TY PETS!!!!